What our opponents' fans are saying

[night-watchman]

Just to clarify - I was agreeing with you. The best thing for them now is to get as much money as they can from sales, invest wisely and promote form their excellent youth programme. It may hurt before they get the benefits, but it should leave them in a better positions than less farsighted clubs. Sure that isn't easy for Saints fans to hear - but, having lost, potentially, seven players already, I can't see there being anything to gain from forcing anyone to stay, whereas with that amount of money, some wise purchases and the continuing benefit of their youth policy, it may be one step back for two forward. And we know all about that, don't we

Oh I totally got that And I do agree although they are well within their right to both vent and dislike us - the content of the guys argument was misguided to say the least. What I really meant was I do not think we should be taking the content of their anger into account as it is a group of fans that are understandably not thinking clearly right now.

I have just found this whole saga so depressing, as it is almost the ultmiate evidence of just how lost football is. Southampton shone as somewhat of a beacon of hope (before this summer) for all those outside the top bracket of clubs that it can be done the right way.

Granted - it is a little hard for me to get perspective as I live with a Southampton fan.

 

[sloth]

Nah, I'm talking about the 'bigger' club delusion and the assumed arrogance they adopted on becoming competitive with poch in charge. The shit they came out with when we were after poch was unforgivable as far as I'm concerned (and I read a lot of it). They can rot.

Don't feel anything for them at all and certainly don't want any of our good players going there.

Fair enough, but it was you asking me to justify a position I'd taken and not the other way around!

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Some comments from Arsenal fans, reading them is like masturbating, now that we seem to get him.. Btw, many of them now thinks they never were interested, and that they surely now get Khedira. Dont personally rate him, so fuck him and fuck them anyway.

"To me Schneiderlin is the lowest risk of all the central mids linked and at the same time the best fit for an Arteta replacement. Us signing Khedira/Carvalho/Pogba suggests that Wenger wants someone stronger and more Diaby-like to pair with Ramsey, which some fans will love but I am not sure if that's a good direction to go to as it'll probably mean Ramsey will be made to play deeper. I think a lot of you guys who think Schneiderlin isn't world class because he plays for Southampton are being very short sighted, because IMHO I wouldn't be surprised to see Schneiderlin moving to Madrid/Barca/Bayern in a few years time on a big fee. Probably more than the price being quoted which you guys think is too much. But we'll see."

"I think Schneiderlin or Khedira could change everything this season. With Sanchez we are just a nice team, improved but not complete. Add one of those guys and we have team that can challenge for everything (with a little bit of luck)."

"Fun being a Gooner this summer, signed a top attacker,French starting RB, highly rated GK, a young elite English player too maybe. Schneiderlin next please."


"Have to say its a strange thing about him - he is simultaneously underrated and overrated, its quite amazing

. He's much better than given credit though, really hope we get him."

"Schneiderlin's playing mind games with Wenger, telling him to 'sign me now' or suffer the consequences. Morgan's playing hard to get, doesn't want Wenger to think he's easy."

"and then by going to spurs? ermm.. ok we're used to it.. lol."

"
Interesting how few people prefer Schneiderlin to Khedira, where when you look at the numbers, it might make a lot more sense to go for the frenchman.
Looking through whoscored - Schneiderlin averaged 4 tackles a game in his first season in the premiership, that made him the top tackler in the league at the time, even ahead of Luiz Gustavo who i rate highly, Bender, Khedira, Arteta, and even Ramsey. Moreover, none of those players ever reached 4 successful tackles per game at any stage in their careers. He also comes second to Gustavo when it comes to interceptions, and has a higher passing accuracy than everyone bar Arteta.
There's no denying Khedira is a great player, but when you consider Schneiderlin is almost 3 years younger and would have considerably lower wages - it makes more sense to go in for him than Khedira. The other thing is that, hitting such high numbers in his first season in the premiership when he was 23 means that there might even be room for improvement, as opposed to a 27 year old Khedira returning from a serious ACL injury."

"
It's all gone a bit quiet on the Schneiderlin front. This is the player that we actually need in the squad even though Khedira is a great player in his own right.
Hope it gets done."

"Arteta and Flamini need to be upgraded this season, and Schneiderlin is the perfect replacement."

"
Couple key points I made in the Sami thread about Morgan when he was being bashed.
Morgan made the french WC squad this year whilst playing for southampton and under deschamps who is quite picky with who he selects.
He has only just turned 24 and has represented all youth levels of French footy and the biggest thing for me he is a DM for a country that arguably produces consistently the most quality DMs in world football. Hes also PL proven.
Off the top of my head for France alone about 8 other DMs could have been selected over him but werent."

"Schneiderlin is more of a defensive player, but would add so much legs to the midfield. He's like a bigger, stronger, faster flamini from 07/08, with a more composed head and better passing/dribbling."

"Had a dream last night that Wenger wanted Schneiderlin but when he met him he was an arrogant **** and asked for huge wages despite meeting Rodgers earlier and asking for decent wages."

WTF

"Schneiderlin would be the perfect midfield signing. Offers every attribute we're looking for in a CM at the moment. Much of the skepticism around him is really due to his lack of pedigree at the top level, but really, I think he does belong at the top level and proved it for the last couple of seasons. He should be starting for France IMO."

"There is no doubting that Khedira is the bigger name but I can't help but think that Schneiderlin is the much better option."

"Absolutely. Schneiderlin's technical ability can be exploited further forward. He's got the engine to go forward and has done on occasions for Southampton. He's not just a holding player, but he has the tactical discipline to sit when we need him to. That's more than enough, and exactly the kind of player we need. Khedira offers that, but he's probably not quite as good a passer. That's really what does it for me regarding Schneiderlin. If we can add a player with his defensive attributes in midfield and really exploit his passing game, we could have a very dangerous midfield on our hands."

"Pogba"

 

[ilikeost]

Two funny comments from Saintsweb.

"Rumours that it's £50m for Schneiderlin and Rodriguez. Bloody hell."

"Seems about right." - Regarding the £50m.

I'd be surprised if we pay any more than £30m for both of them.

 

[EastLondonYid]

"Pogba"

They signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 2 seasons , so why would Pogba be such a surprise?......we are the ones shopping at the likes of Swansea and Soton, whilst they buy from RM and Barca......fuck them btw.

 

[nidge]

Two funny comments from Saintsweb.

"Rumours that it's £50m for Schneiderlin and Rodriguez. Bloody hell."

"Seems about right." - Regarding the £50m.

I'd be surprised if we pay any more than £30m for both of them.

I'll be stunned if we pay that much. Considering Rodriguez is injured and there is no guarantee he will come back the same player. I would be looking around the £25m-£30m at most for both of them. That said it's almost certain that Southampton will want ridiculous money.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

They signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 2 seasons , so why would Pogba be such a surprise?......we are the ones shopping at the likes of Swansea and Soton, whilst they buy from RM and Barca......fuck them btw.

Arsenal buy the players Madrid and Barcelona don't want anymore (no, I'm not saying they are "rejects"- they are far better than any of our players). There is no scenario where Juve wouldn't want Pogba anymore so I can't see it happening. Pogba is destined for Madrid IMO- he's the perfect player for them according to all Madrid fans as they need a box to box player- I reckon it will happen next summer.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I'll be stunned if we pay that much. Considering Rodriguez is injured and there is no guarantee he will come back the same player. I would be looking around the £25m-£30m at most for both of them. That said it's almost certain that Southampton will want ridiculous money.

It can't be £50million because that would involve us either paying £25million on Rodriguez ( ) or breaking our transfer record on one of the players, so it's obviously less than that.

I'd say £25million on both...

 

[Chris Finch]

I had £25m in my head when I first heard about it. Around £12.5m each

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I had £25m in my head when I first heard about it. Around £12.5m each

I reckon £18million on Schneiderlin and £7million on Rodriguez.

 

[nidge]

It can't be £50million because that would involve us either paying £25million on Rodriguez ( ) or breaking our transfer record on one of the players, so it's obviously less than that.

I'd say £25million on both...

I would have said about £16m for Schneiderlin and maybe £9m for Rodriguez is what I would be willing to part with. Much more than that and it's not really a good deal for us.

 

[ilikeost]

I'll be stunned if we pay that much. Considering Rodriguez is injured and there is no guarantee he will come back the same player. I would be looking around the £25m-£30m at most for both of them. That said it's almost certain that Southampton will want ridiculous money.

I think we'll pay like £20m for Schneiderlin and £10m for Rodriguez.

 

[Dirty Ewok]

Two funny comments from Saintsweb.

"Rumours that it's £50m for Schneiderlin and Rodriguez. Bloody hell."

"Seems about right." - Regarding the £50m.

I'd be surprised if we pay any more than £30m for both of them.

it won't be £50m.....but i could see it being £35m

 

[EastLondonYid]

Arsenal buy the players Madrid and Barcelona don't want anymore (no, I'm not saying they are "rejects"- they are far better than any of our players). There is no scenario where Juve wouldn't want Pogba anymore so I can't see it happening. Pogba is destined for Madrid IMO- he's the perfect player for them according to all Madrid fans as they need a box to box player- I reckon it will happen next summer.

Obviously any player leaving Barca or RM would be more than likely shown the door, but they are both world class players at the top of their game,they are not 30 y.olds on the way down. we are slipping away from them again i feel, we got so close and now they are kicking on again..imo...but fuck them i still say, we will be ok with Poch...but they are buying better players than us and have money to burn...

 

[Flashspur]

Arsenal buy the players Madrid and Barcelona don't want anymore (no, I'm not saying they are "rejects"- they are far better than any of our players). There is no scenario where Juve wouldn't want Pogba anymore so I can't see it happening. Pogba is destined for Madrid IMO- he's the perfect player for them according to all Madrid fans as they need a box to box player- I reckon it will happen next summer.

yes...throw away footballers and throw away fans

 

[ilikeost]

They signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 2 seasons , so why would Pogba be such a surprise?......we are the ones shopping at the likes of Swansea and Soton, whilst they buy from RM and Barca......fuck them btw.

They are buying RM and Barca rejects and are paying top prices. They are just being wastefull and waving their dick arround to please their fans. Özil for £40m or Eriksen for £10m? I know wich one I prefer my club to sign.

 

[EastLondonYid]

They are buying RM and Barca rejects and are paying top prices. They are just being wastefull and waving their dick arround to please their fans. Özil for £40m or Eriksen for £10m? I know wich one I prefer my club to sign.

Sorry disagree.....Ozil had a poor first season, but he is class and a WC winner, and 30m for Sanchez is money well spent imo..MU paid 27m for Fellaini, Liverpool 35m for Carroll, we paid 17m and 26m for Paulinho and Soldado that is paying top prices for mediocre players imo.......i would take Sanchez all day for 30m.,

 

[sloth]

I would have said about £16m for Schneiderlin and maybe £9m for Rodriguez is what I would be willing to part with. Much more than that and it's not really a good deal for us.

One problem with assessing whether we got a good deal or not, or whether the transfer was worth it, is that the devil is in the clauses. This is really where Levy comes into his own, but also why we always seem to take so long to complete the deals (think your average gas or electricity bill and then times it by a hundred). All of which means that, as you know, whatever the reported price, the eventual cost to us is likely to be quite different!

 

[ilikeost]

Sorry disagree.....Ozil had a poor first season, but he is class and a WC winner, and 30m for Sanchez is money well spent imo..MU paid 27m for Fellaini, Liverpool 35m for Carroll, we paid 17m and 26m for Paulinho and Soldado that is paying top prices for mediocre players imo.......i would take Sanchez all day for 30m.,

I never said the players wasn't any good. I'm just saying that you can find players of the same quality much cheaper if you want to. But Arsenal doesn't want to, they just want to wave their cock about pretending to be a club of Real Madrid or Barcelonas standard. If those players were good enough for Real and Barca they would have stayed with Real and Barca.

£17m isn't a top price in football for an established Brazilian international, fucking Callum Chambers went for £16m and he was the 2nd choise left back at Southampton. £26m for Soldado looked like a decent deal at the time, Soldado had an amazing track record in Spain and he really isn't a mediocre player if you judge him on his whole career and not just his first season in England.

 

[EastLondonYid]

I never said the players wasn't any good. I'm just saying that you can find players of the same quality much cheaper if you want to. But Arsenal doesn't want to, they just want to wave their cock about pretending to be a club of Real Madrid or Barcelonas standard. If those players were good enough for Real and Barca they would have stayed with Real and Barca.

£17m isn't a top price in football for an established Brazilian international, fucking Callum Chambers went for £16m and he was the 2nd choise left back at Southampton. £26m for Soldado looked like a decent deal at the time, Soldado had an amazing track record in Spain and he really isn't a mediocre player if you judge him on his whole career and not just his first season in England.

17m can be a waste of money for an established Brazilian international, did you not just watch them, there were plenty of established Brazilian players who were shite.

Top players do leave RM and Barca you know, it doesn't prove they are not good enough for them, just different coaches have different ideas.

Name me players in Sanchez class that are much cheaper ?

I hate the scum more than i can ever say,and i hope Sanchez turns into Ruel fucking Fox .....don't hold your breath though,i think he is worth every penny.