The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - DEADLINE DAY 31st August 2021

[easley91]

So earlier in the window, we were led to believe we were talking to Inter and Fiorentina about Martinez and Vlahovic and we weren't relying on outs to finance the deals.

Roll on 3-4 weeks and surprise surprise...same old same old.

Or they were asking for extravagant fees in the end which we couldn't pay with Kane staying..?

 

[VegasII]

Still confident of a leftfield name coming up here.

We could do with a bit of Rhythm and Stealth on deadline day.

 

[Trix]

Since you asked (See full post - SCITK Update 33)- "At least this year we have numerous players for each position so if one doesn't happen we are ready for the others."

That's not the point I was making. Having multiple players on a list in case of a U turn from the selling club, is not the same as moving on to other targets once Levy U turns on spending.

 

[srups34]

Btw laughing at Spurs being as obvious as ever. Waiting to announce the Emerson late tonight to appease fans. Ridiculous.

I actually think they are waiting to announce a few out first before announcing any incomings.

 

[Zlatan]

Hmm, so according Kaveh on Sky, Burnley has been offered the chance to sign McKennie on loan. We have definitely been interested and it seems as Paratici has been wanting to replace Sissoko with someone (if that player is not Skipp). If Burnley can do it we could as well. So we're choosing not to? Aouar was also there to take. Maybe we're satisfied with our midfields options when Tanguy ultimately stayed. Looks like that anyways... but as Trix alluded to, there will be players offered around. Let's hope someone who rocks our boat get's offered I guess.

 

[DiscoD1882]

We aren’t going to compete with the top
4 In one window. Probably not even 4. We have to either sell. Or be creative and try and pick up players that are young or we get lucky with. We then have to hope these players either bed in. Or become world class players. Every now and again we splurge some cash on a player we think will elevate us. Which seems to rarely work. So we have to hope the top 4 have an off season. so we can make CL. Generate more cash as then spend “some” of that.

A lot of the systems we have in place have in place to generate cash. been hampered by Covid and lack of fans and CL football.

I am well aware of how Levy operates. And the frugal way he does it. As should everyone else by now. So why do we have this aghast at the end of every window? Even with a DOF. Who may have had a budget given to him. But also may well have had to sell before buying. Which hasn’t happened for the above and other reasons.

I’ve become numb to these transfer windows. It’s just not worth getting upset/angry about any more. We get what we get at the end
Of the window and we go from there.

 

[robertgoulet]

So earlier in the window, we were led to believe we were talking to Inter and Fiorentina about Martinez and Vlahovic and we weren't relying on outs to finance the deals.

Roll on 3-4 weeks and surprise surprise...same old same old.

When they were mooted to be about 40M (same as Traore). Then their prices doubled.

 

[Yid-ol]

So earlier in the window, we were led to believe we were talking to Inter and Fiorentina about Martinez and Vlahovic and we weren't relying on outs to finance the deals.

Roll on 3-4 weeks and surprise surprise...same old same old.

Both said they were not moving. Can't force players to move! I get it's frustrating and we needed another 2 or 3 players to finish the squad, but if teams refuse to sell or players refuse, what can we do?

 

[Pochie]

Who's said that?

Romario.

 

[Kiedis]

Jesus Christ, you have to be absolutely retarded to both make up the 'ITK' and then in turn actually believe this nonsense. It's been an interesting ride, but this last moronic invention actually brought my IQ down by 10 points. And it was low as it was.

So that's it for me in this community, I'll enjoy my coming ban, and trust you'll do the same.

Toodles, lads.

 

[ohtottenham!]

That's not the point I was making. Having multiple players on a list in case of a U turn from the selling club, is not the same as moving on to other targets once Levy U turns on spending.

Absolutely! It undermines the whole relationship with a DoF/coach etc.,

 

[Shanks]

That's not the point I was making. Having multiple players on a list in case of a U turn from the selling club, is not the same as moving on to other targets once Levy U turns on spending.

I suspect most people struggle to grasp the concept of a moving business where people are assets, fans get hung up on ITK as some kind of promise rather than taking it as info that changes all the time, the business side of football, same for players - fans have no idea what it’s like for a player or their families either.

for me, I love hearing the ins and outs, but just take it at face value, if things happen brilliant, if they don’t move forward - all part of the game we love…

I for one am happy with ourrecruitment, yeah arguably a little light in some areas, but still improved others, keeping Kane and hopefully a motivated Ndombele could be brilliant

 

[Aphex]

Mate go and have a wank ffs

Why waste time on those? I have the SSN deadline day blog on their website. Saves listening to the pointless interviews throughout the day from outside club training grounds and get the information all the same.

Can't believe both these guys thought I was being serious. Redundancy meeting ffs

 

[MR_BEN]

That's not the point I was making. Having multiple players on a list in case of a U turn from the selling club, is not the same as moving on to other targets once Levy U turns on spending.

But still… if he has multiple deals on the go in case of a U turn from the selling club, then he still has multiple deals on the go, regardless of where the U turn comes from. Unless the U turn is that there is now no money available.

On the flip side… I do get it, it’s not realistic to expect that those multiple deals are also still available on the last day of the window. Our options have likely moved on this late in the day.

 

[Basil Brush]

Jesus Christ, you have to be absolutely retarded to both make up the 'ITK' and then in turn actually believe this nonsense. It's been an interesting ride, but this last moronic invention actually brought my IQ down by 10 points. And it was low as it was.

So that's it for me in this community, I'll enjoy my coming ban, and trust you'll do the same.

Toodles, lads.

If this poster is not taking the piss, it is my favourite meltdown ever.

I hope they stay...lol

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

Hmm, so according Kaveh on Sky Burnley has been offered the chance to sign McKennie on loan. We have definitely been interested and it seems as Paratici has been wanting to replace Sissoko with someone (if that player is not Skipp). If Burnley can do it we could as well. So we're choosing not to? Aouar was also there to take. Maybe we're satisfied with our midfields options when Tanguy ultimately stayed. Looks like that anyways... but as Trix alluded to, there will be players offered around. Let's hope someone who rocks our boat get's offered I guess.

Lo Celso is no better than Nicola Berti and NDombele is possibly the laziest, most disinterested player we’ve had in 20 years at the club. Our “creative” midfielders don’t exist - so surely the club can’t be happy with those options!

 

[ardiles&villa]

Jesus Christ, you have to be absolutely retarded to both make up the 'ITK' and then in turn actually believe this nonsense. It's been an interesting ride, but this last moronic invention actually brought my IQ down by 10 points. And it was low as it was.

So that's it for me in this community, I'll enjoy my coming ban, and trust you'll do the same.

Toodles, lads.

??????poor guy is hurting

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I thought the fact we heard FP spins multiple plates and negotiates with multiple targets at once helps us in the scenario if a player/club/agent U-turns or changes their mind?

We did hear that.

Unfortunately it came from a total fucking weirdo who wasn't who he claimed to be, was full of shit & if you look up **** in the dictionary, you'll see his bullshitting face right beside it.

****.

 

[panoma]

Willing to bet Levy has watched us win the first three games and deluded himself into thinking our squad must be amazing after all.

You only need to hear him talk in interviews to know he doesn't understand football as a sport (not a business), it's ridiculous that he insists on making these footballing decisions.

It's baffling that what seems to be a clever businessman could be this dense. Building on success, and using that to further grow, is common business practice.

He did the exact same thing when we first reached the CL.

"If it works allright why do anything". - Daniel Levy

 

[djhotspur]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I do not get why people get excited and believe that things will ever change whilst levy is in charge. He will never change, he only cares about off the field business success, which is what his bonus is based on. He will never put the business (spurs) in the red and risk his bonus from old Uncle Joe, who's finances have increased massively during covid.

Levy expects us to get champions league without the budget for it, he expects miracles that other managers were able to provide and will never push the transfers to take us to the next level. He will always use the lack of champions league football as an excuse, then when we are in the champions league, find some other excuse to make 160m profit and hail its as a great year whilst the team regresses on the field. Until the club is sold and he is gone I will never get excited over a big transfer window.

Levy is not completely to blame, to be honest I do not blame him for not sanctioning big transfers and pushing the boat out when our scouting department fails so catastrophically to identify talent that will actually work in the premier league or in the system that we play.

I genuinely believe if we sign Traore and a decent creative CM, we will challenge for top 4 well. But levy will never take the risk that it does not come off.

If we sold more players I believe it would be different, but it is clearly 1 in one out, and the Ndombele situation I think has created significant problems for us. He will be reintergrated but he will not work out as it will be the same story with him.

I think we have looked poor bar maybe the city game, the team is severely lacking creativity, which maybe lo celso can improve but if we go into games with that midfield and tanganga, we will continue to create very little. It is very worrying and the same as under Mourinho we are flattering to deceive. People say we look more defensively sound, but do we? We had a good spell under Mourinho and we rode our luck like we are doing now, because I am telling you now, we made Watford and Wolves look like class sides and if they took a single chance things would be very different. This team is no different and we are one dier, sanchez mistake from conceding and then I believe the team will collapse the same as last year.

The only hope we have is that other teams struggle this year also, top 6 is a pipedream as it stands if Leicester start to perform and 1 other side. you just wait until we play Chelsea, it will be 3/4 - 0 and we will see just how poor we are.

Emerson is an improvement, because as good as Tanganga is defensively, he is woeful going forward, so hopefully he plays in games where we are going to be on the front foot, but if Skipp Alli and Hojberg play, we will continue to struggle.

People saying Traore is not worth 50m, but he is a big upgrade on Berg and Moura, I am sick of watching both of them do nothing, Moura beats men in the wrong part of the pitch then dribbles down blind alleys, Berg has ok decision making, but its particularly effective at anything, so I would much rather sell Moura and bring in Traore, at least he is miles better at what those two do, which is cause a bit of havoc and beat a man.

This team has huge flaws, and we can say all we want we are building for the future, but in 2 years Kane and Son will massively regress and well have nothing, because we will not replace them with quality any where near them ever again.

I will always support us and watch us, but if I have to continue to watch the dross we have seen this season and last and continue to never sign the right talent or spend the money, I will do so less and less. I am a fan who is losing faith and its getting to the point where I will not miss other events to watch us now, the joy is being taken away.