The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - DEADLINE DAY 31st August 2021

[Clive Wilson]

The Lo Celso hate is really, really weird to me and has ampified 10x since he had a bad game in a bizarre lineup in the ECL.

 

[Hotspur88]

First day at my new job today so it's been a mad one. Haven't really had time to look closer at this thread but have kept up to date with the ticker. Heard absolutely nothing my end but the consensus is we're done bar Emerson?

If so, although the window has been a success in some regards (I would rate around 7/10), we still fail to learn our lessons due to one man. We're 100% lacking creativity and if he can't see that, he's absolutely deluded.

What a shame!

 

[dfree]

Not saying we should be using other clubs business as a measuring stick but from what I’ve seen from other teams, everybody feels they’ve still got glaring holes they haven’t filled, including moneybags Chelsea and City. Think some of the meltdown that we haven’t managed to catch up to the top 4 in one window when most teams haven’t been able to complete all the business they wanted is a bit OTT imo.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I do not get why people get excited and believe that things will ever change whilst levy is in charge. He will never change, he only cares about off the field business success, which is what his bonus is based on. He will never put the business (spurs) in the red and risk his bonus from old Uncle Joe, who's finances have increased massively during covid.

Levy expects us to get champions league without the budget for it, he expects miracles that other managers were able to provide and will never push the transfers to take us to the next level. He will always use the lack of champions league football as an excuse, then when we are in the champions league, find some other excuse to make 160m profit and hail its as a great year whilst the team regresses on the field. Until the club is sold and he is gone I will never get excited over a big transfer window.

Levy is not completely to blame, to be honest I do not blame him for not sanctioning big transfers and pushing the boat out when our scouting department fails so catastrophically to identify talent that will actually work in the premier league or in the system that we play.

I genuinely believe if we sign Traore and a decent creative CM, we will challenge for top 4 well. But levy will never take the risk that it does not come off.

If we sold more players I believe it would be different, but it is clearly 1 in one out, and the Ndombele situation I think has created significant problems for us. He will be reintergrated but he will not work out as it will be the same story with him.

I think we have looked poor bar maybe the city game, the team is severely lacking creativity, which maybe lo celso can improve but if we go into games with that midfield and tanganga, we will continue to create very little. It is very worrying and the same as under Mourinho we are flattering to deceive. People say we look more defensively sound, but do we? We had a good spell under Mourinho and we rode our luck like we are doing now, because I am telling you now, we made Watford and Wolves look like class sides and if they took a single chance things would be very different. This team is no different and we are one dier, sanchez mistake from conceding and then I believe the team will collapse the same as last year.

The only hope we have is that other teams struggle this year also, top 6 is a pipedream as it stands if Leicester start to perform and 1 other side. you just wait until we play Chelsea, it will be 3/4 - 0 and we will see just how poor we are.

Emerson is an improvement, because as good as Tanganga is defensively, he is woeful going forward, so hopefully he plays in games where we are going to be on the front foot, but if Skipp Alli and Hojberg play, we will continue to struggle.

People saying Traore is not worth 50m, but he is a big upgrade on Berg and Moura, I am sick of watching both of them do nothing, Moura beats men in the wrong part of the pitch then dribbles down blind alleys, Berg has ok decision making, but its particularly effective at anything, so I would much rather sell Moura and bring in Traore, at least he is miles better at what those two do, which is cause a bit of havoc and beat a man.

This team has huge flaws, and we can say all we want we are building for the future, but in 2 years Kane and Son will massively regress and well have nothing, because we will not replace them with quality any where near them ever again.

I will always support us and watch us, but if I have to continue to watch the dross we have seen this season and last and continue to never sign the right talent or spend the money, I will do so less and less. I am a fan who is losing faith and its getting to the point where I will not miss other events to watch us now, the joy is being taken away.

****.

 

[jbstarr14]

Who's said that?

Probably Romario…

Edit: Disregard

 

[MR_BEN]

The Lo Celso hate is really, really weird to me and has ampified 10x since he had a bad game in a bizarre lineup in the ECL.

I don’t hate him. I just don’t rate him.

Ah, that even rhymes.

 

[Aleks]

The Lo Celso hate is really, really weird to me and has ampified 10x since he had a bad game in a bizarre lineup in the ECL.

He's also leaving to his national team and will be missing 2 games

it's safe to say he isn't having the brightest start to the season

 

[THE SPURSBOY]

Not saying we should be using other clubs business as a measuring stick but from what I’ve seen from other teams, everybody feels they’ve still got glaring holes they haven’t filled, including moneybags Chelsea and City. Think some of the meltdown that we haven’t managed to catch up to the top 4 in one window when most teams haven’t been able to complete all the business they wanted is a bit OTT imo.

They got to the CL final. We got knocked out of Europa league. They’re in a different league to us.

 

[PLTuck]

Talking about meltdowns apparently "FSG out" is trending with Liverpool fans.
Arsenal are hanging on a player we've had all summer but took a better option.
We no doubt haven't done enough for some people and some more might be nice but we have still done well enough for now.
A bloody good start in this man's opinion.

As with every transfer window, it doesn't really matter how many we sign, some people just want a moan. If we'd signed Vlahovic, Messi, and Ronaldo there would still be people moaning that we hadn't got shot of Winks and Tanguy or that we didn't also sign another CB or that our wage bill is massive because we have too many players and can't shift the ones we want to shift.

I find it interesting that people are bringing up the narrative that we always seem 1 or 2 players short. That is a fan perception at every club, and shows that the reality is not as clear cut.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

That's not the point I was making. Having multiple players on a list in case of a U turn from the selling club, is not the same as moving on to other targets once Levy U turns on spending.

A U turn on spending! That is quite odd, can’t imagine Paratici or Nuno will be happy, could potentially make us look foolish to the selling club and also undermine Paratici’s plans/position.

 

[McFlash]

Jesus Christ, you have to be absolutely retarded to both make up the 'ITK' and then in turn actually believe this nonsense. It's been an interesting ride, but this last moronic invention actually brought my IQ down by 10 points. And it was low as it was.

So that's it for me in this community, I'll enjoy my coming ban, and trust you'll do the same.

Toodles, lads.

Boom, our first victim! ??

 

[hughy]

I don’t hate him. I just don’t rate him.

Ah, that even rhymes.

I hate poetry.
It does my fucking head in.
No more please thank you.

 

[whitesocks]

I’m going on a date tonight I need to know

A) do I leave early and skip the sex to avoid missing transfer fun
B) I stay so she gets the disappointment and I get at least some satisfaction before Transfer deadline day disappointment ?

Oh the dilemmas

I think the transfer gods sent down a nymph to test you.
If you please her, we'll make a signing....

Not wanting to put the pressure on or anything, but we need multiple signings...

 

[robertgoulet]

I do think my favorite part of every window is how a window can be good or bad just based on the last 2 days. If we’d have waited until yesterday/today to announce we weren’t selling Kane and then made all of our moves everyone would be creaming themselves.

 

[T-Bone]

The Lo Celso hate is really, really weird to me and has ampified 10x since he had a bad game in a bizarre lineup in the ECL.

Cant remember to many good games from him personally myself but happy to be proved wrong. As for this window. Hopefully we get a suprise because as of now I feel the squad has got younger for sure but I don't think stronger as a whole and still with big holes.

 

[tony0379]

Page 34 now. Half way through the current 68 pages.

That Levy...bit of a knobber hey.

Wait until you get to page 69. It explodes

 

[sausage]

Talking about meltdowns apparently "FSG out" is trending with Liverpool fans.
Arsenal are hanging on a player we've had all summer but took a better option.
We no doubt haven't done enough for some people and some more might be nice but we have still done well enough for now.
A bloody good start in this man's opinion.

I think this is it. We can complain we haven't had a great window, but compared to what others have done, it's not that bad.

 

[PLTuck]

Jesus Christ, you have to be absolutely retarded to both make up the 'ITK' and then in turn actually believe this nonsense. It's been an interesting ride, but this last moronic invention actually brought my IQ down by 10 points. And it was low as it was.

So that's it for me in this community, I'll enjoy my coming ban, and trust you'll do the same.

Toodles, lads.

And you have to be an absolute **** to think it is ok to use this word, under any circumstances.

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

 

[mill]

Absolutely horrible!

I know! how could the son of god have learning disabilities

 

[Jamturk]

Anybody considered there maybe politics at play here with the Nuno/Mendes link in the deal and Levy not entertaining it.