Paulo Gazzaniga

[spursfan77]

Anyone who watched Joe Hart play for Moyes's West Ham or Burnley should know you don't want Joe Hart playing a lot of minutes in a sit deep counter attacking team and get here we seemingly are. Gazzaniga isn't really good either but at least he's got some youth and versatility for goalkeeping style. Ah well, off to my hole again before the Joe Hart truthers come and yell at me.

Maybe we will get another one in or just not sell him.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Gazza's best moments (aside from the passion he shows on the touchline) have come when he's been thrown in for one game at a time. A sustained run last season showed up his weaknesses for me.

 

[WiganSpur]

Gary Jacob tends not to be a bullshitter so this may well have legs. Shame as I think we need three but maybe Whiteman is set to be number 3.

We might end up bringing in another free transfer if Gazzaniga leaves. I expect Hart coming in means he'll battle it out with Gazzaniga, but if a decent offer comes in for him then we'd do it and bring in another HG number 3 if Jose does not believe the youth keepers are ready imo.

Some HG keepers available atm are Vito Mannone, Rob Elliot, David Stockdale, Joel Coleman or we could even bring Archer back. Stockdale admittedly is awful but what number three keepers aren't in fairness? I think Elliot could possibly do a job as 3 having played quite a bit for Newcastle in the past.

 

[brasil_spur]

Is this just your opinion or have you any credible evidence to support your statement?

Everything I write is my opinion, this is a fan forum not a peer reviewed scientific thesis.

But evidence wise you just need to take a look at the recent social media posts he's made as well as the BBC interview he gave recently to see that he clearly thinks he has a rejuvenated mental state.

 

[PrettyColors]

One thing to consider with the keeper search is that in the next few transfer windows it would be wise to hoard 30m or so as an emergency Lloris replacement fee. He's just had one of his best seasons for us, but he'll be 34 this December and after watching the Kepa chronicles or Adrian costing Liverpool a place in the CL quarters, we should be heavily on the look out for a top keeper in the next few windows.

It's clear that neither Gazza or Hart would be a #1 for us. Hopefully our scouts have their eyes open, I think a Lloris replacement is an underrated need that will need addressing by 2022 or so.

 

[Montalbano]

I was excited for Hart to sign because I expected Whiteman and Austin to get valuable loan experience.

This will not be the case if Gazzaniga is sold, so I hope we do not sell him unless he absolutely needs to be offloaded to fix the homegrown quota.

 

[Shanks]

Anyone who watched Joe Hart play for Moyes's West Ham or Burnley should know you don't want Joe Hart playing a lot of minutes in a sit deep counter attacking team and get here we seemingly are. Gazzaniga isn't really good either but at least he's got some youth and versatility for goalkeeping style. Ah well, off to my hole again before the Joe Hart truthers come and yell at me.

Maybe our sit deep and counter style suits Joe Hart who can actually kick the ball very far (his shorter game not so much)... that was something Pep didn’t like, he wanted a ball playing keeper

 

[razzmaster]

We might end up bringing in another free transfer if Gazzaniga leaves. I expect Hart coming in means he'll battle it out with Gazzaniga, but if a decent offer comes in for him then we'd do it and bring in another HG number 3 if Jose does not believe the youth keepers are ready imo.

Some HG keepers available atm are Vito Mannone, Rob Elliot, David Stockdale, Joel Coleman or we could even bring Archer back. Stockdale admittedly is awful but what number three keepers aren't in fairness? I think Elliot could possibly do a job as 3 having played quite a bit for Newcastle in the past.

Jordan Archer would be club trained and homegrown so would be a good shout possibly.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Good. Like Gazza but there’s not really any point in keeping him if we think Hart is up to it. Allows us to promote Austin/Whiteman too.

Yep 100% this.

I'm not sure if Poch is to blame or Levy or Recruitment team or all of them but the squad management over the last few years has been awful, its as if none of them are thinking this through logically. The HG quota is an issue so why on earth do we need 2x foreign back-up goalkeepers on decent wages? 2x Top goalkeepers is enough and 3rd choice should be a young HG player, if they're not good enough then sign someone who is HG and who is good enough.

Signing Hart and selling Gazzaniga if that is our plan makes sense on so many levels in the short to medium term, sure it would leave us with Lloris and Hart both the wrong side of 30 but they both have another good 3-4 years left in them at the top level i'd say, Lloris especially and that buys us time to sign a replacement but it also makes our squad more sensible with not having 3 non HG goalkeepers.

I think Jose has to take some big credit here for coming in with his detailed dossiers and starting to re-shape and re-build the squad in a sensible pragmatic way. People might not like his football but he knows how to build a squad with a combination of the right players both from a quality perspective and also a character perspective.

More than anything over the past 10-20 years Spurs have lacked a strong captain and we've certainly lacked 'leaders' in our team, we've always been too soft and that is a huge reason as to why we've not gotten over the line time and time again.

For all the millions City spent on quality players the most important ones for them have been Kompany, Hart, Yaya Toure, KDB and David Silva and not because of the quality on the pitch but because like them or not they're leaders and winners.

Its no coincidence that Jose is addressing this issue by bringing in Hoyjbjerg (former club captain of Southampton aged 24 so clearly a leader and listen to his interview on signing he said "we want 11 leaders on the pitch", this kind of thing is massive. And now signing Joe Hart the same, again like him or not he's a character and a leader and he's been there and won things.
Adding King to our coaching staff, another leader.
Eric Dier new contract - leader.

I could go on but for anyone who listens to the high performance podcast with Jake Humphries where he interviews former high performing sports stars more than anything they say hard work, discipline, dedication, repetition and mental strength are key to success, you're not just born with talent you need to work at it and you need players within a team to drive each other forwards.

I'm very optimistic about the signings we are making considering how difficult it must be to do business in this Covid affected transfer market.

 

[rossdapep]

Yep 100% this.

I'm not sure if Poch is to blame or Levy or Recruitment team or all of them but the squad management over the last few years has been awful, its as if none of them are thinking this through logically. The HG quote is an issue so why on earth do we need 2x foreign back-up goalkeepers on decent wages? 2x Top goalkeepers is enough and 3rd choice should be a young HG player, if they're not good enough then sign someone who is HG and who is good enough.

Signing Hart and selling Gazzaniga if that is our plan makes sense on so many levels in the short to medium term, sure it would leave us with Lloris and Hart both the wrong side of 30 but they both have another good 3-4 years left in them at the top level i'd say, Lloris especially and that buys us time to sign a replacement but it also makes our squad more sensible with not having 3 non HG goalkeepers.

I think Jose has to take some big credit here for coming in with his detailed dossiers and starting to re-shape and re-build the squad in a sensible pragmatic way. People might not like his football but he knows how to build a squad with a combination of the right players both from a quality perspective and also a character perspective.

More than anything over the past 10-20 years Spurs have lacked a strong captain and we've certainly lacked 'leaders' in our team, we've always been too soft and that is a huge reason as to why we've not gotten over the line time and time again.

For all the millions City spent on quality players the most important ones for them have been Kompany, Hart, Yaya Toure, KDB and David Silva and not because of the quality on the pitch but because like them or not they're leaders and winners.

Its no coincidence that Jose is addressing this issue by bringing in Hoyjbjerg (former club captain of Southampton aged 24 so clearly a leader and listen to his interview on signing he said "we want 11 leaders on the pitch", this kind of thing is massive. And now signing Joe Hart the same, again like him or not he's a character and a leader and he's been there and won things.
Adding King to our coaching staff, another leader.
Eric Dier new contract - leader.

I could go on but for anyone who listens to the high performance podcast with Jake Humphries where he interviews former high performing sports stars more than anything they say hard work, discipline, dedication, repetition and mental strength are key to success, you're not just born with talent you need to work at it and you need players within a team to drive each other forwards.

I'm very optimistic about the signings we are making considering how difficult it must be to do business in this Covid affected transfer market.

It's another reason why Ndombele may not be a good solution for us.

If he's feeling niggly injuries and immediately doesnt want to play, then it can be taken as a sign of someone who is not willing to throw their body on the line.

Unfortunately, to win titles you need a squad of players who will run through a brick wall for you. Jose wiol be looking them in the eye and seeing who has that mentality.

The likes of Hart and Hoejbjerg seem to be big characters. We've lack that.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's another reason why Ndombele may not be a good solution for us.

If he's feeling niggly injuries and immediately doesnt want to play, then it can be taken as a sign of someone who is not willing to throw their body on the line.

Unfortunately, to win titles you need a squad of players who will run through a brick wall for you. Jose wiol be looking them in the eye and seeing who has that mentality.

The likes of Hart and Hoejbjerg seem to be big characters. We've lack that.

I feel exactly the same mate which is why I'm very much in the ok its a shame it hasn't worked out camp but lets cut our losses as best we can and move on for the good of the team.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Everything I write is my opinion, this is a fan forum not a peer reviewed scientific thesis.

I will bare that in mind for your future posts. It just appeared from your post that you had something more substantial to support your opinion which would have been of interest to me and our fans on this forum.

But evidence wise you just need to take a look at the recent social media posts he's made as well as the BBC interview he gave recently to see that he clearly thinks he has a rejuvenated mental state.

Unfortunately many a social media post and interview have been given by Joe Hart in the past and unfortunately he has not lived up to them for various reasons.

For Spurs I hope your faith in his rejuvenated mental state is returned in spades. I certainly wish him every success.

 

[USAYID]

Not a truther but I think his form needs to be considered in context. Spurs are a better team than both West Ham and Burnley and have a better defensive record than both those teams. Yet Gazza has conceded twice as many goals as Hart over the same number of games during the last few seasons.

Hart also seems to be in a rejuvenated mental state right now and has far more winning experience and so for me I think there's very little to call between the two keepers.

Given we need to free up a HG spot or two then I don't think on the balance of it there's much risk in replacing Gazza with Hart.

The other factor is that there is such a small amount of time between the closing of the current transfer window and the opening of the new one that if it became apparent that Hart was awful and Lloris was out injured for a notable amount of time we could resolve this by signing someone else fairly quickly.

So is this a risk - yes a little bit. But IMO it's less risky than having absolutely no backup player whatsoever for Kane.

Hart needs to prove he can cope mentally and physically before I’d consider selling Gazza, or at least not replace him straight away with someone HG of equal quality. Backup GK is one of the most important positions as you just can’t plug someone from a different position there, you need someone you can rely on. For me Gazza made mistakes last year during his extended run, but he wasn’t too bad at all and I’m comfortable with him as our #2 GK for this year.

The other point is that I don’t think anyone is sure that the next TW will be in January. For all we know it could get pushed out, extending the games a backup could possibly be needed.

Hopefully Hugo doesn’t get injured again and we don’t need to find out if we can rely on either backup.

 

[brasil_spur]

Unfortunately many a social media post and interview have been given by Joe Hart in the past and unfortunately he has not lived up to them for various reasons.

For Spurs I hope your faith in his rejuvenated mental state is returned in spades. I certainly wish him every success.

As 2nd/3rd choice keeper I'm not sure it really makes any difference whether he lives up to it or not.

Like i said he still has better stats playing for West Ham and Burnley than Gazza has playing for us, so if he can keep more clean sheets for teams who ship more goals than we do then he's probably at least on par with Gazza and potentially an upgrade, that's before we even consider his improved mental state, or lack thereof.

And then there's the HG issue.

Overall I don't see any negative to this at this stage.

 

[brasil_spur]

Hart needs to prove he can cope mentally and physically before I’d consider selling Gazza, or at least not replace him straight away with someone HG of equal quality. Backup GK is one of the most important positions as you just can’t plug someone from a different position there, you need someone you can rely on. For me Gazza made mistakes last year during his extended run, but he wasn’t too bad at all and I’m comfortable with him as our #2 GK for this year.

The other point is that I don’t think anyone is sure that the next TW will be in January. For all we know it could get pushed out, extending the games a backup could possibly be needed.

Hopefully Hugo doesn’t get injured again and we don’t need to find out if we can rely on either backup.

Fair enough but I still struggle to see why people think Hart is worse than Gazza? He has better stats playing for worse teams over the last few seasons.

Maybe he will be dreadful, but theres no strong evidence to suggest that IMO.

 

[holmesy]

my opinion, no way has Hart come to play 3rd GK behind Gazza... IMO Hart has been promised to challenge Hugo, but also get Uefa cup / Carabao Cup games... Pretty confident Gazza will be sold

 

[USAYID]

Fair enough but I still struggle to see why people think Hart is worse than Gazza? He has better stats playing for worse teams over the last few seasons.

Maybe he will be dreadful, but theres no strong evidence to suggest that IMO.

I think stats can be overrated. Honestly not sure if they paint the right picture or not in this case, but our defense was atrocious this year and our defenders were giving away opportunities for fun during the first half of the year. Hugo wasn’t having a particularly good year either until he got hurt.

Perhaps more worrying is that Hart hasn’t really got a run of games in the last 18 months. Who knows if his reflexes are now a lot slower, or how he’ll cope right after a howler. He can say he’s ready and mentally strong, but you never know until you’re in the situation.

I hope he is able to rediscover his form and be a great backup for us, but I’d want to make sure before relying on him. He would be the best 3rd GK in the premier league though and I love Spurs having this strength.

 

[Mr Pink]

Look Hart had all that success at City and Pep getting rid probably dented his ego and confidence.

He then looked a bit lost at West Ham and Burnley.

In his pomp at City he was very good. A new challenge at a bigger Club, with world class facilities and manager might just be what the doctor ordered.

Privately Hart is probably thinking he'll slug it out with Lloris and give him genuine competition.

Very astute signing for many reasons imo.

 

[WiganSpur]

Might be nothing and might have just been what he was asked specifically, but Hart mentioned Lloris and not Gazzaniga in his interview, almost as if he’d been told he was replacing him as number 2.

 

[GutBucket]

Gazza fits more in teams that play from the back, think we will sell him either this summer or next year.