From Kevin Scott, ON FTL via COYS

[SpurSince57]

Well, it's completely at odds with his public statements.

In the end, you can only go by the results, and, CC aside, they haven't been good. In fact, they've been pretty bloody awful.

 

[lily_lane]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but from memory I have never seen anything Brazil has said regarding what is likely to come to pass at Spurs ever actually occur, atleast nothing to suggest he has a source of any noterity within the Lane

(he may have predicted something like Berbatov leaving, along with every newspaper and sports news channel in the country, but nothing that wasn't stating the obvious)

No, neither have I. He mostly talks in a drunken haze about everything anyway, be it Spurs or any other topic. My point was that DA was claiming Roberts was deeply impressed with Spurs training, based on a few comments to the Media. Privately, (ie talking to Brazil) he's probably just as criticial of everything to do with Spurs as he ever was, thus claiming to have inside knowledge that someone at the top will be sacked very soon. It's 99% tosh yes, but not helpful in any way.

 

[rez9000]

I will pay for any compensation payments...

I wouldn't. His compo should go to the place where the sun shineth not.

 

[rez9000]

I smell large quantities of bullshit. It's wafting out of my speakers as I type. As has been raised, there is no way on God's clean, lovely Earth that any chairman would tolerate his head coach effectively doing fuck all. He would fire him in a second. And I'm given to understand that the majority of big employment contracts have non-performance clauses in them, so the employee can't bunk off, hoping for the sack and a big severance package.

As many of you wil know, I'm not Juande Ramos' biggest fan, and that's putting it ultra mildly. With that as a given, I still wouldn't want to believe this.

 

[liberty]

That is so bloody funny if true! I don't believe it as it just seems way too far-fetched.

Ramos doesn’t speak to the players? Works in his office? Levy refuses to believe the players? Whatever. If it is true, Ramos would be sacked due to incompetence!

 

[Real_madyidd]

Spot on Libs.

I remember a Story about when Wise and Poyet were at Leeds. Poyetr apparently wanted to go to Sevilla to see how Rasoms trains them, as he is someone who has been doing some great stuff on the training pitch. Suddenly, he comes to Spurs and he just sits in an office? Fuck off.

 

[mil1lion]

So he's basically saying that Ramos is not really a manager at all. And we have signed a guy who looks like the one who managed Sevilla, but he isn't the real Jaunde Ramos? Or is he saying that the Ramos that guided us to Carling Cup success is not the same as the Ramos currently in charge? I'm confused.

 

[DC_Boy]

the key issue is results - JR has something like a month to 6 six weeks to turn it round or he has to go, if we're still bottom at the end of november his situation will almost certainly be untenable, or he'll already be spurs history

 

[Bromavinci]

Thats part of the trouble with ITK stuff isnt it? This so obviously just stinks of BS and yet we cant totally discount it because we just dont know. What we do know is that Bentley does have mates who support spurs who I assume he would talk to pretty frankly. But FFS this is so unbelievable and goes against alot of other info we have had, I wonder why someone would think they could get away with it...

If that paragraph seems confused its for a very good reason...

 

[spur_souljah]

Looks like the sun ran out of shit to write so they thought they could use this story to stir up more trouble:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1825370.ece

If there are any sun editors on this forum, noone believes your stories so just get lost..

 

[eddiebailey]

The (unattributed) quote in the Sun does not come out of this source, though I would not put it past them to make it up. Bu there are also other details, the secret player summit and players meeting Ramos individually to complain. So the rumour obviously has legs outside of the FTL post. Which does not of course make it true, but it would not surprise me if our players were finding things to whinge about in order to make excuses for their own failings on the pitch.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

It was also just trotted out by Paul Masefield, the leading pundit (with Steve McMahon) on ESPN. Probably got it from The Sun, but still, this is exactly the reason the club need to be more open in communications. No one on here believes it but armchair fans and all other viewers/readers are taking it as gospel. A simple exclusive granted to Sky or the Mirror or whoever allowing a journo behind the scenes to see what we do in terms of diet would have prevented this and satisfied all parties, including the media.

 

[Bonjour]

Point no. 2 is quite clearly complete and utter bullshit.

On that basis, I refuse to believe the rest.

Good day.

 

[hybridsoldier]

thanks for posting your finding

i believe it is absolute complete and utter bollocks and further attempt to destabilize the club (simila things happened before Jol went).

I feel talk to anyone from Sevilla are they will tell you this is not Ramos' style at all

BTW I can see this in the News Of The World on sunday or someother gutter trash that appeals to the chav nation we are in!

 

[don1]

firstly Jol over feed them now Ramos is starving them what a lot of BS

 

[southgatespur40]

i cant believe this i simply cant. we cannot lose faith in ramos because if we do relegation is almost certain.

 

[DC_Boy]

I'm glad it's in the sun - in fact I hope it's spread far and wide - cos if it's a lie the club need to come out and say so and if it's true or even half-true it's an absolute *****ing scandal and I want JR out come monday unless we beat Stoke

 

[eddiebailey]

firstly Jol over feed them now Ramos is starving them what a lot of BS

I cannot be bothered to look for quotes, but I do recall that Alvarez was openly critical of the dietary regime at the club and imposed changes, including the infamous 'baby food'. It is this that that lends creedence to the notion that the players might be using the new diet as an excuse for their poor performances.

(Though frankly it is difficult to see how a diet and fitness regime that was credited as contributing so much to Ramos' success at Sevilla, could be such a disaster at Spurs.)

 

[Jack2]

This kind of stories seems to emerge every time, when we have hard time in the league. Especially I love the opening: "this is from Bentley speaking to someone i know who defo knows and speaks to him".

:lol:

:bs:

 

[Teofilo-Stevenson]

Shock horror as professional athletes are on Protein shakes!

They taste like normal milkshakes, and give you a huge energy boost. Their diet can't be too far of what pretty much all athletes put themselves through.

It probably doesn't mix well with the Thursday night Jaegerbombs at Faces.

Protein isn't really what you need pre-match - you need simple, easily utilisable, carbs. Dietary protein accounts for 16% of an average person's energy intake - the other 84% comes from sugars, starches etc. Carbs are what athletes need pre-match - complex carbs the night before, plenty of fuel to be converted overnight into ATP & Glycogen, loading the muscles up chemical potential energy for the next day - top up with some starches and sugars at a pre-match meal, leaving enough time for digestion, then take sugars and salts in fluid during the match to keep blood sugar levels up and stave off dehydration. Post-match, protein will help re-build damaged muscle fibers.

The players eeem to be complaining about going into matches hungry and with low energy levels - of course you don't want to have a belly-full of food before a match - but you need to have taken on enough carbs in the 24 before a match so that the body has enough time to convert sugars into the units of internal energy currency (ie. glycogen, ATP etc). Taking on a load of protein pre-match then trying to use that as an immediate energy source is just lunacy.