Could Harry go at the end of the season?

[spursandbarca]

if jose wins squat(very concieveable if spurs or barca put him out of champions league) he has uphill battle in la liga, and underdogs in copa final. then hes bye bye. perez would appoint another tecnico.

 

[arnoldlayne]

I have a lawyer friend who knows one of the crown legal team in this case. Seems they are VERY confident and this will be the big story of the summer.

It would explain why they are refusing to back down about it and are pressing on with the case.

 

[arnoldlayne]

I believe that when Red Nose goes, United will be far more of a poisoned chalice (have seen the latest financial figures:shrug - and yet folk seem more than happy, eager even, to assume that Mourinho will be offered the United job AND (more to the point) accept it.

they have a mixture of a very ageing squad and some average players (who were previously carried by all the superstars) with a decreasing number of coveted players.

Also why do people think Man City will have unlimited funds? Assuming UEFA FFP rules are here to stay, City are not much better than us in terms of football-related income.

 

[StartingPrice]

You may be right about that. But then he may not be that savvy and United still have reason bending cachet.

However, on the other hand, I reckon getting United, with their kind of basic but hardworking squad, to another championship will still be a more straightforward task than elevating our emotionally fragile and fey team to unparalled heights.

But why do you say this?
we have a young, very talented squad, who are gaining experience and confidence all the time. Even if we don't exit in the next round of the CL and don't qualify for it for next season, we will have built the confidence of beating Inter and AC Milan, amongst other things (and I believe even under those circumstances we will keep our top players).

they have a mixture of a very ageing squad and some average players (who were previously carried by all the superstars) with a decreasing number of coveted players.

Also why do people think Man City will have unlimited funds? Assuming UEFA FFP rules are here to stay, City are not much better than us in terms of football-related income.

Exactly.
RE: United - they need to replace VDS, Scholes, Giggs and Neville - and three of those have been their primary match-winners. Rio could be pulling a Ledley. Shrek is very unhappy.Constant rumours link Vidic with a move away. And aside from these seven players, just how strong are they? BerbaGit has yet to be offered a new contract, even though his is running down. Brown is allegedly leaving this Summer reputedly to us.
Maybe that is why in the last 9 months they have been linked with 'moves' for Lennon, Thudd, Modders, Bale and VDV - in other words they want to replace their whole midfield. And how are they going to do that? They are facing financial meltdown - could they even afford one of Bale/Modders/VDV:shrug: Their fans hate their owners - many of the real ones have opted for the breakaway club, and the glory-hunters won't stick around if there is no more glory, will they:shrug:
Add to that the prospect of losing their iconic manager...the man who has given them unprecedented success (without which so man folk wouldn't bve obsessed with them being so much bigger than us, 'cos they weren't), and whom emulating will be seen as the yardstick, and how attractive does that look?

As for Citeh: they started from a lower base than Chelsea, and have had less time to throw their money around. Now they face the new UEFA regs, and if they don't have a squad and infrastructure in place before, then their money won't count for quite so much. Still nice, I am sure, and would allow them to gradually build the infrastructure of the club up. This has led, IMHO, to a bit of panic buying. Thye have brought a lot of very good players, no doubt - but how many great ones have they brought? As we all know, the final piece in the jigsaw, and, usually, the hardest to find, is a gneuine WC striker. I suspect this is why they are so fixated on it now. All that has let to is a few seasons of buying very good (but great?) strikers, Tevez excepted, not giving them time to settle, and then replacing/alienating them, only to repeat the whole process again (Adebayor/Balotelli, for instance).

Spurs, on the other hand, are widely recognised as one of the best positioned clubs to cope with the new financial regualtions...and already have an excellent young squad in place.

 

[SpurSince57]

I think so mate. I was having an interesting conversation on saturday in a box that was provided for Pini Zahavi, via Harry. By all accounts Harry and Levy are already discussing the way forward post Harry, the reason being Harry wanting out of the game if it looks likely to criminalise him. Contary to popular beleif Harry feels he has nothing to hide and is being made a scapegoat for money transfers in the game. Harry now also beleives he has little to no chance of succeeding the dozy italian. I have tried to confirm this with my boss, and to be fair, rightly so I think, he has denied it. It just seemed that these guys we very sure and matter of fact about everything

It seems to me that because Harry is the very obvious media favourite, the bookies' favourite, and (we are told) the 'people's favourite' too, that there's a general assumption he's nailed on with the blazers at the FA.

 

[ryantegan]

It seems to me that because Harry is the very obvious media favourite, the bookies' favourite, and (we are told) the 'people's favourite' too, that there's a general assumption he's nailed on with the blazers at the FA.

unless he gets done with this charge. If he was so nailed on with the FA they would have given him the job after the world cup. Why do you think Capello is still there despite the lack of backing from every man and his dog. It would be too risky to apoint Harry for him to then be done in court 12 months later. The charge aint going away, Harry honestly felt he would be off the hook in Febuary, that didnt happen. Its gonna be a big ask now to clear him I think

 

[fridgemagnet]

I have a lawyer friend who knows one of the crown legal team in this case. Seems they are VERY confident and this will be the big story of the summer.

The crown should be keeping their mouths shut, gossiping to friends about an ongoing case, would be damaging for the crowns case if the defence team knew about it... it really does seem to be a witch hunt.

 

[Gilzeanking]

As for Citeh: they started from a lower base than Chelsea, and have had less time to throw their money around. Now they face the new UEFA regs, . This has led, IMHO, to a bit of panic buying. .

Yes , it would be logical for them to buy buy buy before the regulations kick in and transfer their wealth into players ...it may look like panic buying , but there is some logic to it .

 

[Wirral Spurs]

The crown should be keeping their mouths shut, gossiping to friends about an ongoing case, would be damaging for the crowns case if the defence team knew about it... it really does seem to be a witch hunt.

Being confident is not the same as gossiping. No details discussed at all.

It is absolutely not a witch hunt, it is a criminal trial.

 

[Wirral Spurs]

The crown should be keeping their mouths shut, gossiping to friends about an ongoing case, would be damaging for the crowns case if the defence team knew about it... it really does seem to be a witch hunt.

Being confident is not the same as gossiping.

It is not a witch hunt, it is a very serious criminal trial.

 

[StartingPrice]

Yes , it would be logical for them to buy buy buy before the regulations kick in and transfer their wealth into players ...it may look like panic buying , but there is some logic to it .

Yeah, but I explained what the logic was...and the 'panic' comes into it in the sense that they are throwing exhorbitant sums at very good but (largely) not great players in no discernible pattern...you certainly couldn't call it 'team-building', not in any systematic way. That is because there is a finite limit to the amount of time they will be able to do this. Hense, I described it as 'panic-buying' - or 'Brewster's Millions', if you will.

 

[scat1620]

For anyone who still thinks we have a chance of getting Mourinho, here's a big indicator that we don't:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/237027/Jose-Mourinho-s-price-for-Premier-return-170m

If that's remotely true, then we have ZERO chance of bringing Mourinho to the Lane.

Okay, there are no quotes etc, but then none of the previous information that Mourinho was close to/fancied joining Tottenham in the past has any more solid evidence (in the form of quotes etc) than this Express story, so it can't be dismissed unless we're also prepared to dismiss the previous ITK that is fuelling people's pipe-dreams of Mourinho signing on with us.

 

[There's always next year]

Yeah, but I explained what the logic was...and the 'panic' comes into it in the sense that they are throwing exhorbitant sums at very good but (largely) not great players in no discernible pattern...you certainly couldn't call it 'team-building', not in any systematic way. That is because there is a finite limit to the amount of time they will be able to do this. Hense, I described it as 'panic-buying' - or 'Brewster's Millions', if you will.

They may have assembled the squad they want by the time the UEFA Regs kick in, but this squad will be expensive to run in terms of salary. Their problem still lies with costs to turnover, which will still be excessive without additional signings. Unless they find other ways of generating income threefold, then they will fall foul of new regs, providing UEFA keep to their word.

 

[mattyspurs]

For anyone who still thinks we have a chance of getting Mourinho, here's a big indicator that we don't:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/237027/Jose-Mourinho-s-price-for-Premier-return-170m

If that's remotely true, then we have ZERO chance of bringing Mourinho to the Lane.

Okay, there are no quotes etc, but then none of the previous information that Mourinho was close to/fancied joining Tottenham in the past has any more solid evidence (in the form of quotes etc) than this Express story, so it can't be dismissed unless we're also prepared to dismiss the previous ITK that is fuelling people's pipe-dreams of Mourinho signing on with us.

So if that is beleived to be true, it would only be the Arabs then.

 

[$hoguN]

For anyone who still thinks we have a chance of getting Mourinho, here's a big indicator that we don't:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/237027/Jose-Mourinho-s-price-for-Premier-return-170m

If that's remotely true, then we have ZERO chance of bringing Mourinho to the Lane.

Okay, there are no quotes etc, but then none of the previous information that Mourinho was close to/fancied joining Tottenham in the past has any more solid evidence (in the form of quotes etc) than this Express story, so it can't be dismissed unless we're also prepared to dismiss the previous ITK that is fuelling people's pipe-dreams of Mourinho signing on with us.

There is zero chance of Mourinho getting a £20 million a year contract from any team with the Financial rules coming in. That is around £385000 a week which makes it absolutely clear that the article is based on shit journalism.

 

[There's always next year]

There is zero chance of Mourinho getting a £20 million a year contract from any team with the Financial rules coming in. That is around £385000 a week which makes it absolutely clear that the article is based on shit journalism.

Mourinho will see Spurs as too much a risk to his reputation. He's unlikely to move anywhere but the top one or two teams. I even think City is too risky for him, although £20m might reduce this.

 

[Misfit]

But yeah, Maurren goes where the money is. He's not interested a decade-long project and build it up slowly slowly catchee monkey.

Citeh it is.

I only hope UEFA actually do implement at least some of these regs or we might as well give up.

 

[$hoguN]

Mourinho will see Spurs as too much a risk to his reputation. He's unlikely to move anywhere but the top one or two teams. I even think City is too risky for him, although £20m might reduce this.

I'm not saying Mourinho will become our next manager (although I wouldn't be surprised by it). I was just making the point that there is zero chance that any team will pay him £20million a season, and therefore makes the article pretty much a collection of bs

 

[Achap]

According to Rob Beasley on Sky's 'Sunday Supplement' yesterday, managing Spurs is not out of the question for Mourhino. Beasley reckons (probably erroneously) that he is a mate of Mourhino's (due to the Chelsea connection) and that during a recent conversation Jose said that managing a club long term - ala Ferguson and Wenger - was his ambition. He still has a home in London and his family like this country, so he would almost certainly settle in England. Apparently, his main target would be to manage Man U for ten to fifteen years and emulate the achievements of Ferguson, for whom he has great regard. Beasley said that the Telegraph story about financial demands is completely made up tosh.

So, although regarding Beasley with all the bile I can manage, if his story is true, then I would say that Mourhino would have to plan carefully. If he were to go to Man City, or Liverpool, in the next year or two, he would not be particularly welcome at Man U after Ferguson retires. Chelsea would be unlikely to take him back unless Abramovich swallowed his pride - something he is not famous for. Which only leaves L'Arse and Spurs as PL clubs that could reasonably be expected to gain his services - and Wenger, like Ferguson, can be expected to hang on to the bitter end some years off.

So, if Harry left, and the circumstances were right re release from his contract at Real, Jose may feel that Spurs offered a good option for a few years (until Ferguson retired, and he could have a shot at replacing him). He apparently has said to Beasley that Spurs are on the cusp of achieving good things, and don't need too much more to press for the top. Taking that a step further, if Mourhino did take over here and achieved the heights with Spurs, he would be a proven hero, and stand a good chance with the Man U job. Even if he did not achieve the very top with Spurs, he is likely to have done quite well, and it would not have completely alienated the Man U fans - as success with Man City or Liverpool would have done.

Therefore, although Mourhino's cool, calculating brain, will have some work to do, I think that - however unlikely it may seem at first glance - him managing us for a few years could fit into his plans. Of course, all that depends on him having his sights set on managing Man U eventually - for which we only have Rob Beasley's word.

 

[StartingPrice]

According to Rob Beasley on Sky's 'Sunday Supplement' yesterday, managing Spurs is not out of the question for Mourhino. Beasley reckons (probably erroneously) that he is a mate of Mourhino's (due to the Chelsea connection) and that during a recent conversation Jose said that managing a club long term - ala Ferguson and Wenger - was his ambition. He still has a home in London and his family like this country, so he would almost certainly settle in England. Apparently, his main target would be to manage Man U for ten to fifteen years and emulate the achievements of Ferguson, for whom he has great regard. Beasley said that the Telegraph story about financial demands is completely made up tosh.

So, although regarding Beasley with all the bile I can manage, if his story is true, then I would say that Mourhino would have to plan carefully. If he were to go to Man City, or Liverpool, in the next year or two, he would not be particularly welcome at Man U after Ferguson retires. Chelsea would be unlikely to take him back unless Abramovich swallowed his pride - something he is not famous for. Which only leaves L'Arse and Spurs as PL clubs that could reasonably be expected to gain his services - and Wenger, like Ferguson, can be expected to hang on to the bitter end some years off.

So, if Harry left, and the circumstances were right re release from his contract at Real, Jose may feel that Spurs offered a good option for a few years (until Ferguson retired, and he could have a shot at replacing him). He apparently has said to Beasley that Spurs are on the cusp of achieving good things, and don't need too much more to press for the top. Taking that a step further, if Mourhino did take over here and achieved the heights with Spurs, he would be a proven hero, and stand a good chance with the Man U job. Even if he did not achieve the very top with Spurs, he is likely to have done quite well, and it would not have completely alienated the Man U fans - as success with Man City or Liverpool would have done.

Therefore, although Mourhino's cool, calculating brain, will have some work to do, I think that - however unlikely it may seem at first glance - him managing us for a few years could fit into his plans. Of course, all that depends on him having his sights set on managing Man U eventually - for which we only have Rob Beasley's word.

Interesting.

But why (oh why oh why) the continuing wank-fest over United?
If he took over at the Lane and got to (or close to the top), why not carry on? Why be obsessed with the poisoned chalice job at United (probably in financial meltdown)?

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