Could Harry go at the end of the season?

[markiespurs]

I was reading in the Daily fail yesterday that 4-5 weeks have been set aside in July at the high court for Harry's tax evasion case.

This started me thinking that the timing of this could'nt have been worse from a Spurs point of view, considering that Pre season training will be well under way, the new season will only be weeks away and we will be entering a busy period in the transfer window.

I think that Harry has done an incredible job as our manager, but understandably, his attention will be elsewhere during an important time at the club, a period of time that could shape the whole of next season.

So my questions are: Could Harry leave at the end of the season to concentrate on his court case? Would Levy take the potential risk that next season could be ruined by Harrys off the field problems?

Another twist in this could also be the possible availability of Mourinhio at the end of the season and his reported desire to manage again in England.

 

[Chilli]

Nope. Harry will stay, for another season as I believe next year is the year he feels we can really push for the title. The media will try and create a bit of a shit storm out of it but it will be fine. Dont forget he has a great team around him.

And as for Jose, he will be at Real for one more year I reckon as he was saying(on the BBC web) that he has a young squad and next year is when they will really progress...

 

[TwoSaintsComeMarching]

I do think he will stay until 2012, by which time Jose will leave Madrid to return to London and steer us towards the title. :beer:

 

[BringBack_leGin]

No

 

[AngerManagement]

I can't see Jose coming to us personally, seems like a pipe dream many fans have had since he left Chelsea (with a few 'ITK' rumours fueling this)

If anything he would end up at Man City (money) Man Utd or Liverpool.

 

[michaelden]

anything is possible, but is it probable?

 

[dontcallme]

I can't see Jose coming to us personally, seems like a pipe dream many fans have had since he left Chelsea (with a few 'ITK' rumours fueling this)

If anything he would end up at Man City (money) Man Utd or Liverpool.

I think it depends on his options and if the clubs are willing to get rid of their manager.

I can't see SAF retiring yet so Man Utd are out. I'd argue that we're just as attractive as Liverpool at the moment.

Man City could easily let Mancini go just like Chelsea could get rid of Ancelotti. If Chelsea and Man City stick with their manager then it's a possiblility that Jose could come here, just an outside one.

 

[TwoSaintsComeMarching]

I dont think Mourinho is motivated by money though. I dont think he would choose a club like Man City at this stage of his career.

 

[AngerManagement]

I dont think Mourinho is motivated by money though. I dont think he would choose a club like Man City at this stage of his career.

But any perceived accomplishment from winning the league at a club like ours who has not done so for so long (like he did with Chelsea) can also be said of Man City.

The difference is at Man City he would have unlimited money at his disposal with which to achieve this.

Maybe he would also see the position as being at a rival club to Man Utd as more notorious when he locks horns once more with Sir Alex.

If he looked at both teams squads over all he might feel he has more talent at his disposal at Man City, although we are clearly a better performing unit he might think City has greater potential for him to work with and ultimately he could attain higher heights with them.

Plus I am sure the extra wage while not a motivating factor would not go a miss.

All in all personally I would expect to see him at City before us, and like you said the chances of him taking our job are very remote, much as I would love him in charge.

 

[michaelden]

I dont think Mourinho is motivated by money though. I dont think he would choose a club like Man City at this stage of his career.

His taking over ManCity would mirror his taking over of Chelsea. There are no differences b/n the 2

 

[danielneeds]

I dont think Mourinho is motivated by money though. I dont think he would choose a club like Man City at this stage of his career.

Yeah, Going to Chelsea, Inter, and Real - the teams with the biggest budgets in their respective countries - really suggest he is not concerned with his pay packet and having the cash to sign the best players. What planet do some people live on...?

 

[Mr Pink]

His taking over ManCity would mirror his taking over of Chelsea. There are no differences b/n the 2

I think he would consider Spurs, I really do. An English 'Porto job' if you like.

He knows that we have an incredibile atmoshere at WHL, he's a passionate guy - its like a match made in heaven apart from the football being played on the field, perhaps.

He also knows we are very much on an upward trajectory as a Club but are still a bit off. The future looks very bright for this Club and he may see it as a real challenge and a realistic one in that. He knows if he won Spurs a title or even the Champions League :razz:, it would be the stuff of the dreams and doing it without unlimited financial resources could be the icing on the 'mourinho cake'....

I mean if he does it with City or even more so with United, most people wont bat an eyelid.

The resources are there at City and United are already there.

The question isn't...would Mourinho come to Spurs.

Its...could his ego refuse such a tasty challenge?

I mean if he really wants to flex his managerial talent to the world, Tottenham would be the Club to take on...not City or United.

I guess Liverpool, given their recent fall from grace, would be a similiar challenge...but because of their history and world wide prestige as a Club....transforming Tottenham would be the most impressive out of the lot.

 

[StartingPrice]

Could he go = yes.
Will he go = don't know, but don't think so.

Hope that clarifies things for you:wink:

 

[scat1620]

Yeah, Going to Chelsea, Inter, and Real - the teams with the biggest budgets in their respective countries - really suggest he is not concerned with his pay packet and having the cash to sign the best players. What planet do some people live on...?

Totally agree.

I think he would consider Spurs, I really do. An English 'Porto job' if you like.

He knows that we have an incredibile atmoshere at WHL, he's a passionate guy - its like a match made in heaven apart from the football being played on the field, perhaps.

He also knows we are very much on an upward trajectory as a Club but are still a bit off. The future looks very bright for this Club and he may see it as a real challenge and a realistic one in that. He knows if he won Spurs a title or even the Champions League :razz:, it would be the stuff of the dreams and doing it without unlimited financial resources could be the icing on the 'mourinho cake'....

I mean if he does it with City or even more so with United, most people wont bat an eyelid.

The resources are there at City and United are already there.

The question isn't...would Mourinho come to Spurs.

Its...could his ego refuse such a tasty challenge?

I mean if he really wants to flex his managerial talent to the world, Tottenham would be the Club to take on...not City or United.

I guess Liverpool, given their recent fall from grace, would be a similiar challenge...but because of their history and world wide prestige as a Club....transforming Tottenham would be the most impressive out of the lot.

Big fan of just about all your other posts, Mr Pink, but I really think you're looking through rose-tinted glasses here. I don't think there's any evidence in his career to date to suggest that if Mourinho had the choice between a decent club with reasonable but not huge financial resources compared to other teams in the same league (like us) and a decent club with huge financial resources compared to other teams in the same league (like Chelsea, Inter, Real Madrid... and Man City/Man Utd next?) then he'd choose the poorer, more 'romantic' club in order to magnify the scale of his achievements.

Other than Porto (which was where he started and made his name, and therefore did not have a choice of places to manage at the time), Mourinho has never made a career move which didn't see him end up at a club who already had a title-challenging playing staff in place, and with the prospect of plenty of money to spend to improve an already good side. IMO, Mourinho wants to win things first and foremost, and will go to the place he thinks he has the best chance to do it, rather than somewhere which would be more of a challenge (with an increased risk of not succeeding). We can agree to disagree on that if you think Mourinho is in it for the bigger challenge rather than the more sure-fire winner, but I don't think danielneeds' excellent post showing his career moves to date can be ignored - there's simply no evidence to support Mourinho making a choice against managing the biggest or richest teams available for him to choose from so far in his career, and so I think it's optimistic at best to expect him to change this pattern by coming to Spurs.

If Harry left, I'd LOVE to see Mourinho as our next manager, but I can't look beyond him going to Man Utd or Man City if he decides to return to England in the near future.

 

[Mr Pink]

Totally agree.



Big fan of just about all your other posts, Mr Pink, but I really think you're looking through rose-tinted glasses here. I don't think there's any evidence in his career to date to suggest that if Mourinho had the choice between a decent club with reasonable but not huge financial resources compared to other teams in the same league (like us) and a decent club with huge financial resources compared to other teams in the same league (like Chelsea, Inter, Real Madrid... and Man City/Man Utd next?) then he'd choose the poorer, more 'romantic' club in order to magnify the scale of his achievements.

Other than Porto (which was where he started and made his name, and therefore did not have a choice of places to manage at the time), Mourinho has never made a career move which didn't see him end up at a club who already had a title-challenging playing staff in place, and with the prospect of plenty of money to spend to improve an already good side. IMO, Mourinho wants to win things first and foremost, and will go to the place he thinks he has the best chance to do it, rather than somewhere which would be more of a challenge (with an increased risk of not succeeding). We can agree to disagree on that if you think Mourinho is in it for the bigger challenge rather than the more sure-fire winner, but I don't think danielneeds' excellent post showing his career moves to date can be ignored - there's simply no evidence to support Mourinho making a choice against managing the biggest or richest teams available for him to choose from so far in his career, and so I think it's optimistic at best to expect him to change this pattern by coming to Spurs.

If Harry left, I'd LOVE to see Mourinho as our next manager, but I can't look beyond him going to Man Utd or Man City if he decides to return to England in the near future.

I suspect you're right, but I just have a hunch about it I guess. Yeah all the evidence regarding his career moves make it unlikely but personally it wont get my attention if he wins the League with United, who win it most years anyway, or even another Champions League for them.

If he goes to City, which is a real possibility, I wont take much notice either. It will be Chelsea all over again with even more financial muscle.

Spurs are not far off the top teams in this League now and they present a more than viable prospect in terms of challenging for trophies. Its not like mission impossibile in that respect, however his own remuneration will be a big factor and he can name his price with City.

All in all he'll proabably end up at City/United, but there remains a little hope that the unthinkable could happen - I believe anyway.

 

[brett.spurs]

England fail at Euro 2012 -> Capello goes -> Harry appointed -> Tim Sherwood announced as new Spurs manager

This WILL happen.

 

[danielneeds]

I suspect you're right, but I just have a hunch about it I guess. Yeah all the evidence regarding his career moves make it unlikely but personally it wont get my attention if he wins the League with United, who win it most years anyway, or even another Champions League for them.

If he goes to City, which is a real possibility, I wont take much notice either. It will be Chelsea all over again with even more financial muscle.

But surely Citeh's current progress, along with the post-Del Bosque Galactico years at Madrid show that having a huge budget and squad of superstars doesn't guarantee success? It takes a very special kind of person to manage that kind of pressure, and those kinds of egos. That is exactly what Mourinho is, and the kind of challenge he looks for.

You are painting Mourinho as a romantic, whereas the cold hard facts of history show he is the ultimate pragmatist.

 

[danielneeds]

England fail at Euro 2012 -> Capello goes -> Harry appointed -> Tim Sherwood announced as new Spurs manager

This WILL happen.

Leaks coming out of the Lane show that Levy is currently smitten with the idea of replacing Harry with someone who has years of PL experience, with Moyes being mentioned in dispatches numerous times. No way will he go for an unproven manager.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

No, he won't go.

If he goes to prison, he can still manage us from there. He can use his "cell" phone to give instructions to Joe Jordan.

 

[Misfit]

England fail at Euro 2012 -> Capello goes -> Harry appointed -> Tim Sherwood announced as new Spurs manager -> Misfit goes on killing rampage

This WILL happen.

:-x