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Congrats to Pulis, he probaably deserved it, but it would have been nice if Tim had won it. He's had a decent enough month as the nomination shows.
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Dinghy
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That and it would have been hilarious to watch all and sundry try to denounce it as a worthless achievement!
Oh really? Under Tim era average current position of opponents on the league table is 10,35 while early season under AVB it was 10,69. It's bullshit that we've had some easy run-in under Tim, at least nothing backs it up. If referring to the april games, then yes up to certain point - however Stoke were on wonderful form and it wasn't easy game on any level.
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Can you provide the working out part of the maths so we can see how you have arrived at those numbers?
guiltyparty
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Look at the current league table and look at the fixtures we've played, just count the averages from there ie. had we just played top 4, it would be ((1+2+3+4)/4=2,5) or bottom four it would be ((17+18+19+20)/4=18,5).
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Right but that doesn't take into account where teams were in the league table when we played them only where they are now.
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Especially considering how difficult some think it is to impose your own tactical philosophy midway through the season.
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It shouldn't take a genius to work out that Sherwood's games have been slightly harder than AVB's - The teams he's had to play twice are Southampton and West Brom, and he hasn't players West Ham or Villa yet. (West Ham + Villa being slightly easier than Southampton + West Brom)
By the end of the season he'll have had slightly easier games (the average of Southampton and West Brom being slightly easier than the rest of the league).
It shouldn't matter what the league position was when we played a team, unless we want to go through every teams fixtures to see when they had their easier runs, which sounds like a ton of work. Judging it by the end of season table is probably more representative.
Edit: Shit, forgot Stoke. The overall point still stands, luckily for me they're 10th.
By the end of the season he'll have had slightly easier games (the average of Southampton and West Brom being slightly easier than the rest of the league).
It shouldn't matter what the league position was when we played a team, unless we want to go through every teams fixtures to see when they had their easier runs, which sounds like a ton of work. Judging it by the end of season table is probably more representative.
Edit: Shit, forgot Stoke. The overall point still stands, luckily for me they're 10th.
Nope and it doesn't take account their form at the time and so on - but it gives rough enough view on schedule, at least much better than one based on nothing.
Well, pends on the philosophy. Besides haven't some complained that one and a half season wasn't enough for AVB to instill his attacking game at Spurs?
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The cliche that pundits always use is it easier to destroy than it is to create unfortunately for us AVB completely destroyed the fun of watching Spurs. (Or at least he did for me towards the end.)
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That is amazing, especially in response to that post
I have been sitting here giggling at that picture like a twat for a good ten minutes
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They'll give it to him just as another stick to beat us with when we get shot of him. I can just picture the outrage in the red tops
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Speaking of cocks...
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Can only play what's put in front of you. The old Spurs would have lost more of those games. Take your hate fueled glasses off. Credit where it's due and just leave it at that.
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Spurger King
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We've done well this month, and I definitely think that's down to Sherwood's input.
After all, if it wasn't for his clueless tactics and total lack of motivational skills in March, our team wouldn't have been able to play through April with the pressure off, knowing there was fuck all left to play for.
Nice one Tim
After all, if it wasn't for his clueless tactics and total lack of motivational skills in March, our team wouldn't have been able to play through April with the pressure off, knowing there was fuck all left to play for.
Nice one Tim
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This is such a boring subject now. "I hate Tim (sorry, Dim for the thick ones), I hate AVB, we had more points under AVB after... No we didn't, for games played against top 4..."
JUST STOP TALKING. No-one is going to win this 'discussion'. It's going round and round in circles...
Anyone who thinks it's ok to abuse someone because they're not good at their job is a prat of the highest order. I just wish they would all go and support someone else.
You know, I was thinking today, why I'm falling out of love with Spurs. For the longest time I thought it was the fall from the hope we had a few years ago, or the weird season we're having now. But it's not, I mean, I've supported Spurs since about 1978, I have seen some dross with managers FAR worse than Tim, but I still had passion for my club.
No, I'm losing my love for the club because of the low life supporters we have, not just on SC, but more so at the ground. The atmosphere has been worse than anything in the 90's. That's what's really killing it for me. Take me back to mid table mediocrity any day, there wasn't this sense of entitlement. It was fun.
JUST STOP TALKING. No-one is going to win this 'discussion'. It's going round and round in circles...
Anyone who thinks it's ok to abuse someone because they're not good at their job is a prat of the highest order. I just wish they would all go and support someone else.
You know, I was thinking today, why I'm falling out of love with Spurs. For the longest time I thought it was the fall from the hope we had a few years ago, or the weird season we're having now. But it's not, I mean, I've supported Spurs since about 1978, I have seen some dross with managers FAR worse than Tim, but I still had passion for my club.
No, I'm losing my love for the club because of the low life supporters we have, not just on SC, but more so at the ground. The atmosphere has been worse than anything in the 90's. That's what's really killing it for me. Take me back to mid table mediocrity any day, there wasn't this sense of entitlement. It was fun.
Spurger King
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Do you think people didn't have personal views or criticisms in the 70s? All that has changed is that there are public outlets for those views.
In a lot of ways I agree with you. I loved supporting Spurs through the 90s, even if the football was largely terrible. I was proud to be a Spurs fan, and just took each game as it came. These days the atmosphere at the Lane is largely depressing (though don't assume that negative comments on forums necessarily correlate with how posters are at games - I'm very critical at times online, but sing my heart out and support every one of our players when in the stadium).
Of course money has changed all that. Back in the 90s, there was far more potential for a team to make a few good decisions and find themselves having a relatively successful season or two. These days, the divide keeps growing the longer a team is on the outside of the CL places, and hence the frustration grows.
You can't ignore context. People are now more aware of the finance and politics involved in a team's success. Rightly or wrongly people also want more entertainment when they are paying significantly more to see their team play than they were in the 70s.
I'm close to packing in football altogether for some of the reasons you've raised, but the magic of Spurs keeps me coming back for more. The game has changed. Attitudes have changed. Expectations have changed. And they will all change again in the future. Ride it out. The "low life supporters" you decry will either disappear, or adapt their expectations. We live in an age where all the different perspectives on our club can be vocalised easily, and there will be opinions that you don't agree with.
I'm afraid that if you don't want to contribute by arguing your corner, you're just going to have to either deal with it or bow out of the discussion.
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