Ratings vs Stoke

[finch101]

Lloris- 6 It's a real shame the best goalkeeper we've had at Spurs in 20-30 years is behind such an outfield.

Naughton-5 Try's and did ok against Moses at times but when the crowd are against the team, he hides and we this formation needs width and attacking play from the full backs. Naughton would require bollocks and arguably more ability to provde this.

Fazio- 3 Great in the air and has good feet for a tall CB but looks unsuited to the PL. Unsuited 6/10 signing once again

Kaboul- 4 We are all waiting for the old Kaboul to comeback. Sadly 2 years out of the game means this won't happen. Making him captain is a seriously worringly call from Poch. His marking is soo slack!

Verts should start EVERY PL game.

Rose- 4 Rose of last season again, terrible positioning, rash fouls but provides decent outlet going forward. Time for Davies as we need to focus on being solid at the back first and foremost.

Capoue- 2 Woeful at Villa yet still got rested midweek and started today. Doesn't break up play, doesn't impose his size and simply I don't know what he adds. Also hugely guilty of hiding from the ball (as he did at Villa) when the fans backs are up.

Mason- 6 Shows great desire, energy and commitment but I'm not too sure his current role/the current formation suits his strenghts. He stands out amongst a crock of shi5e at the moment.

Townsend- 3 Stoke worked he out and he was turning over the ball alot today, almost justified his lack of PL starts.

Chadli- 6 He is 100% Dempsey Mark 2, does feck all, you forget he's playing at times yet he gets himself in great goalscoring positions and is a good finisher.

Eriksen- 4 Great touch player but a little lightweight, looking a little short of confidence and needs more options infront of him. Not convinced he deserves his shirt in the no 10 role atm.

Kane- 5 Struggled up top on his own but still fashoined some good headed chances. Do feel he needs a partner up top as he is more suited to dropping off the CB's and needs a striker to occupy the opposing CB's to get that space.


Dembele- 1- What the hell has happened to him, he is prone to the odd stinker and today he was awful. Another player with geniune ability who fear Spurs will never get the best out of.

Lamela- 3 - Unlucky with his free kick, shows for the ball when others hide but christ I am worried we have spent 15-20 million too much on him. Decision making is very poor in the final third 80-90% of the time, not just today

Adebayor- 3 Did nothing, doesn't seem to care, out of form and the crowd being as vocal as ever for their dislike for him. Best thing for all parties is a January transfer

I'm worried that nothing feels like it's changed from the AVB era, players struggling, lack of intensity and no evidence of any philosphy change. Whatever they are doing in training ISN'T transferring to the games whatsoever.

POCH- 3- Not selecting Verts, selecting Capoue and his subs didn't change anything. Worried by his lack of ability to use his bench to change the game.

Baldini- Get the hell out of our football club, you have assisteed in spending 150 Million on average to 6/10 players, squad players. We have gone backwards and the recuitment policy is the epicentre of it all.

AVB/Sherwood/Poch: All working with a squad of average players. Only good thing is most have age/resale value on their side which will keep Levy happy

 

[The Apprentice]

Well, well, well. Pick the bones out of that. Ironic, that today was Remembrance Day, as there are very few in this squad you would have in the trenches with you.

It's really hard to know where to start. Collectively, it was a shambles. Individually, it was diabolical. I struggle to remember a game where performing the basics was such an effort. Real basics like passing to a team mate, moving into space, moving the ball first time, putting in a challenge and maintaining shape. Really piss poor. Most of them barely put in half a shift.

Poch's team selections and in game decisions are leaving a lot to be desired. He seems to be panicking slightly and trying to appease the fans similar to Sherwood. We had no discernible game plan today, I genuinely am unsure what we were trying to do or how we were planning on scoring goals today. I'm guessing that pumping high balls to Kane against Stoke wasn't his game plan?! No Vertonghen? Stupidity.

The goals we conceded were laughable, in fact I did sadistically chuckle when they scored their second. Barely a challenge goes in for either. There is a real problem with this set of players when it comes to tackling. We have a number of players who either shirk tackles or tackle half heartedly. 50/50s should be renamed 90/10s when teams play against us.

At half time, you could have subbed any one of the outfield players and they wouldn't have been missed.

Worrying to see so many empty seats at the games, even before the fans began to vote with their feet. What will we do when we're meant to have 60,000 in?

Hard to know where we go from here.

Lloris - 5 - Being dragged down by the team. Thought he could have done better with the first. Feel a bit sorry for him, deserves better.

Naughton - 4 - poor throughout. Offers minimal attacking options and struggles to tackle with good technique. Schoolboy for the sending off.

Rose - 4 - no idea what he was doing for the second goal. Doesn't convince me he is a good enough defender and positionally suspect.

Kaboul - 3 - Captain Marvel. Misleads by example. Slow on the turn, beaten in the air, hoofs to no-one, wild clearances. Instils zero calm in our manic back line.

Fazio - 3 - I was no Dawson fan, but fuck me, this guy is even worse. Runs like he's pulled a hamstring and tries to dribble out of defence like Beckenbaur. A horror show today. Where the hell is Jan Vertonghen?!

Townsend - 4 - ran around a lot and produced nothing.

Chadli - 6 - peripheral for large parts but again popped up with a goal. Shame he's the only one.

Capoue - 4 - absolute garbage. Looks lethargic and was MIA for both goals. He wanders too far away from his post at regular intervals. A guy of his size should be dominating the midfield, instead he's another who lopes around shirking challenges,

Mason - 6 - cannot fault his work ethic or attitude. Can fault his positioning and erratic play. Simply don't see him as a CM2.

Eriksen - 4 - hardly noticed him. Has something gone on behind closed doors? Doesn't suit any type of pressing game. Should be dictating games like this, but instead just flounces around bottling out of challenges.

Kane - 5 - could he have done better with the first half chance? Little service and offered minimal output.


Adebayor - 2 - a joke currently. A really unfunny one. Barely broke into a jog and bottles out of every aerial duel. Stealing a living at present.

Lamela - 4 - struggles when teams get about him, seeming to want a touch too many. Got dragged too central in an already overcrowded middle part of the field. Would still be playing him most games.

Dembele - 4 - looks dejected to me. More so than normal. Zero impact and dawdled on the ball frequently. There's no point shouting at him to lift his head up, because he simply isn't capable.


Boooooooooo

 

[spurious1]

That was as bad as it gets. I don't even know how to make ratings, it was just so awful...which has been the case for the several games now, it seems like there is no hope for this lot.

It's amazing that we are still only 4 points off 4th place. But also 5 off relegation, and on the current evidence, it's in that direction we should be looking. At least a relegation dogfight might be exciting.

Bring back Tim !

 

[JimmyG2]

Gonna be a long season, transitional or not. Don't bother with the highlights, blink and you'll miss em.

Lloris ........ .6.....One worldy, unsighted for the first, utterly exposed for the second. Sorry Hugo.
Naughton....6.....Ok again. He's got them all flapping their hands now.
Fazio..........3.....Started poorly and got progressively worse.
Kaboul........4.....Stoke gave him the freedom of White Hart Lane because they knew he'd waste it.
Rose...........5.....Good in parts. Usual hit and miss performance.
Capoue.......4.....Him and Fazio will have have nightmares over today.
Mason.........5......He's allowed the odd bad game. Lets hope this was it.
Chadli.........5+1 .for the goal. You forget he's there and then he scores a cracker.
Eriksen.......4......Potentially great player that we seemed to have ruined.
Kane...........5......Not his day or his position. If that first header had gone in........

Having done the ratings I find that Chadli is the MOM. Not exactly spoilt for choice.
Townsend....4.....Somebody pressed the reset button and he went back to normal.England? I think not.


Pochittino....3......Seems to believe his 5yr. contract means something. No Verts, Kane on his own up front.
............................Fed up making excuses for him and the team's attitude. So I wont.

Lamela.........4....Its all right Erik we can wait. In your own time, don't rush.
Adebayor......3...Very poor even by his standards.
Dembele......4.....There's a good player in there struggling to get out and failing.

 

[kremlyn]

Catharsis is an odd term that sot of means to purify by fire; that was awful but I can't help but feel that it and the preceding matches is a necessary evil.

We have a side that has no direction and was built without one; a squad of players assembled because of availability and potential re-sale value. Indeed I'm not sure I can remember a single player who we've bought in the last years who was bought by our manager to perform a key role in their system. It might be even longer than that but it has become far more visible because of the way our squad has bloated since the sale of Bale.

We now have 2 teams of good players who we rotate between midweek and weekend and I haven't seen any combination make a good team. I genuinely don't think it is the manager; I rather think this manager is the sort who performs better with a smaller, tighter squad anyway.

We've needed this result to see what needed to be seen; we need to trim the squad of as many as 8 players and buy 2/3 of the managers choice who he can build a team around.

On todays evidence the first name to go for me is Capoue. Pochetino wants to press in midfield and this guy is only slightly more mobile than Thudd with none of the redeeming qualities. I actually thought Nzonzi would be an upgrade (shudders).
After that is Kaboul and I don't care that it would be an unseemly slap in the face after being given the captaincy, he's just not a leader or an organiser or that good anymore and if you're going to be playing a high line you need to be all 3.
We have one of those and we should stop being silly and give the captaincy and an expectation that he'll play every game to Vertonghen who is easily the most qulaified.
I think it is a shame because he's clearly a good lad and footballer but I don't see how Dembele fits. Commentary team were reminding me how Hughes used to get the best out of him so I think he should go and be a more attacking player for a lower order team rather than use up a CM berth he isn't suited to in our team. Good luck Moussa. Chiriches, you too lad.
If we are going to occasionally play with wingers then we should keep either Townsend or Lennon, if not then they both need selling. Neither have the quality or intelligence to play as attacking midfielders and there are plenty of teams who will happily have them.
If you can't put the cares of the team above your own then you should be sold, Adebayor. Looking good for early retirement in the Turkish or possibly Qatari divisions.
FB isn't so much of a problem and will sort themselves out soon enough with the arrivals of Yedlin and Walker and the emergence of Davies.

I think we need a proper up-front-on-your-own number 9, a and possibly a CB to partner Vertoghen. But mainly we need a Central Midfielder of Pochs choosing, whether that is 25m on Schneiderlin or Cabaye or the clone of Van Bommel but a bastard of a player who can make a team of men out of the rabble of boys we're currently witnessing. Bring on the warhorse.

 

[Tit&Ham]

Concerns about Poch:

• Starting XI - looks like he doesn't have a clue. How can one not see at training what a pisspoor player fazio is? How can one not see How pisspoor Kaboul and Capoue have been for weeks? And How can one not see that Kane is very good, BUT that his position is behind the striker.
• What is our style? Longballs vs Stoke is not very useful. We have no width, and we don't have the abilities to play narrow.

Ratings:
Keep Mason, Kane, Chadli and Lloris.
Sell the rest - I don't care How much we get, just get rid.

There is too much attitude and moaning in our Squad compared to the quality. I saw Verts and Ade gesticulate and discuss what looked to me How poor our play was. Rightly so, but Ade got his chance, and he is just as poor. Verthongen is our best defender, but he hasn't been consistently good for over a year.

Future:
Play as a relegation team. Lay low and go for a point, or maybe steal a win on the counter. Because right now I fear for relegation, and all teams are looking forward playing us because it's so damn easy...

 

[Tit&Ham]

Catharsis is an odd term that sot of means to purify by fire; that was awful but I can't help but feel that it and the preceding matches is a necessary evil.

We have a side that has no direction and was built without one; a squad of players assembled because of availability and potential re-sale value. Indeed I'm not sure I can remember a single player who we've bought in the last years who was bought by our manager to perform a key role in their system. It might be even longer than that but it has become far more visible because of the way our squad has bloated since the sale of Bale.

We now have 2 teams of good players who we rotate between midweek and weekend and I haven't seen any combination make a good team. I genuinely don't think it is the manager; I rather think this manager is the sort who performs better with a smaller, tighter squad anyway.

We've needed this result to see what needed to be seen; we need to trim the squad of as many as 8 players and buy 2/3 of the managers choice who he can build a team around.

On todays evidence the first name to go for me is Capoue. Pochetino wants to press in midfield and this guy is only slightly more mobile than Thudd with none of the redeeming qualities. I actually thought Nzonzi would be an upgrade (shudders).
After that is Kaboul and I don't care that it would be an unseemly slap in the face after being given the captaincy, he's just not a leader or an organiser or that good anymore and if you're going to be playing a high line you need to be all 3.
We have one of those and we should stop being silly and give the captaincy and an expectation that he'll play every game to Vertonghen who is easily the most qulaified.
I think it is a shame because he's clearly a good lad and footballer but I don't see how Dembele fits. Commentary team were reminding me how Hughes used to get the best out of him so I think he should go and be a more attacking player for a lower order team rather than use up a CM berth he isn't suited to in our team. Good luck Moussa. Chiriches, you too lad.
If we are going to occasionally play with wingers then we should keep either Townsend or Lennon, if not then they both need selling. Neither have the quality or intelligence to play as attacking midfielders and there are plenty of teams who will happily have them.
If you can't put the cares of the team above your own then you should be sold, Adebayor. Looking good for early retirement in the Turkish or possibly Qatari divisions.
FB isn't so much of a problem and will sort themselves out soon enough with the arrivals of Yedlin and Walker and the emergence of Davies.

I think we need a proper up-front-on-your-own number 9, a and possibly a CB to partner Vertoghen. But mainly we need a Central Midfielder of Pochs choosing, whether that is 25m on Schneiderlin or Cabaye or the clone of Van Bommel but a bastard of a player who can make a team of men out of the rabble of boys we're currently witnessing. Bring on the warhorse.

This is an excellent post! Hope Levy sign you up as manager or sports director!

I would add Paulinho and Fazio to the outs as well.

 

[thinktank]

Catharsis is an odd term that sot of means to purify by fire; that was awful but I can't help but feel that it and the preceding matches is a necessary evil.

We have a side that has no direction and was built without one; a squad of players assembled because of availability and potential re-sale value. Indeed I'm not sure I can remember a single player who we've bought in the last years who was bought by our manager to perform a key role in their system. It might be even longer than that but it has become far more visible because of the way our squad has bloated since the sale of Bale.

We now have 2 teams of good players who we rotate between midweek and weekend and I haven't seen any combination make a good team. I genuinely don't think it is the manager; I rather think this manager is the sort who performs better with a smaller, tighter squad anyway.

We've needed this result to see what needed to be seen; we need to trim the squad of as many as 8 players and buy 2/3 of the managers choice who he can build a team around.

On todays evidence the first name to go for me is Capoue. Pochetino wants to press in midfield and this guy is only slightly more mobile than Thudd with none of the redeeming qualities. I actually thought Nzonzi would be an upgrade (shudders).
After that is Kaboul and I don't care that it would be an unseemly slap in the face after being given the captaincy, he's just not a leader or an organiser or that good anymore and if you're going to be playing a high line you need to be all 3.
We have one of those and we should stop being silly and give the captaincy and an expectation that he'll play every game to Vertonghen who is easily the most qulaified.
I think it is a shame because he's clearly a good lad and footballer but I don't see how Dembele fits. Commentary team were reminding me how Hughes used to get the best out of him so I think he should go and be a more attacking player for a lower order team rather than use up a CM berth he isn't suited to in our team. Good luck Moussa. Chiriches, you too lad.
If we are going to occasionally play with wingers then we should keep either Townsend or Lennon, if not then they both need selling. Neither have the quality or intelligence to play as attacking midfielders and there are plenty of teams who will happily have them.
If you can't put the cares of the team above your own then you should be sold, Adebayor. Looking good for early retirement in the Turkish or possibly Qatari divisions.
FB isn't so much of a problem and will sort themselves out soon enough with the arrivals of Yedlin and Walker and the emergence of Davies.

I think we need a proper up-front-on-your-own number 9, a and possibly a CB to partner Vertoghen. But mainly we need a Central Midfielder of Pochs choosing, whether that is 25m on Schneiderlin or Cabaye or the clone of Van Bommel but a bastard of a player who can make a team of men out of the rabble of boys we're currently witnessing. Bring on the warhorse.

Accuracy is everything. Great post. Every spot hit.

 

[Mr Pink]

Catharsis is an odd term that sot of means to purify by fire; that was awful but I can't help but feel that it and the preceding matches is a necessary evil.

We have a side that has no direction and was built without one; a squad of players assembled because of availability and potential re-sale value. Indeed I'm not sure I can remember a single player who we've bought in the last years who was bought by our manager to perform a key role in their system. It might be even longer than that but it has become far more visible because of the way our squad has bloated since the sale of Bale.

We now have 2 teams of good players who we rotate between midweek and weekend and I haven't seen any combination make a good team. I genuinely don't think it is the manager; I rather think this manager is the sort who performs better with a smaller, tighter squad anyway.

We've needed this result to see what needed to be seen; we need to trim the squad of as many as 8 players and buy 2/3 of the managers choice who he can build a team around.

On todays evidence the first name to go for me is Capoue. Pochetino wants to press in midfield and this guy is only slightly more mobile than Thudd with none of the redeeming qualities. I actually thought Nzonzi would be an upgrade (shudders).
After that is Kaboul and I don't care that it would be an unseemly slap in the face after being given the captaincy, he's just not a leader or an organiser or that good anymore and if you're going to be playing a high line you need to be all 3.
We have one of those and we should stop being silly and give the captaincy and an expectation that he'll play every game to Vertonghen who is easily the most qulaified.
I think it is a shame because he's clearly a good lad and footballer but I don't see how Dembele fits. Commentary team were reminding me how Hughes used to get the best out of him so I think he should go and be a more attacking player for a lower order team rather than use up a CM berth he isn't suited to in our team. Good luck Moussa. Chiriches, you too lad.
If we are going to occasionally play with wingers then we should keep either Townsend or Lennon, if not then they both need selling. Neither have the quality or intelligence to play as attacking midfielders and there are plenty of teams who will happily have them.
If you can't put the cares of the team above your own then you should be sold, Adebayor. Looking good for early retirement in the Turkish or possibly Qatari divisions.
FB isn't so much of a problem and will sort themselves out soon enough with the arrivals of Yedlin and Walker and the emergence of Davies.

I think we need a proper up-front-on-your-own number 9, a and possibly a CB to partner Vertoghen. But mainly we need a Central Midfielder of Pochs choosing, whether that is 25m on Schneiderlin or Cabaye or the clone of Van Bommel but a bastard of a player who can make a team of men out of the rabble of boys we're currently witnessing. Bring on the warhorse.

Top post. I don't necessarily agree with every detail, but I certainly agree with the thrust of it.

Been saying it for a while, hence the thread I started that Adebayor needed to be dropped, but it extends way beyond that - indeed the points you make I've thought about also.

Strong decisions need to be made, that's the point, and the sooner that gets done the sooner we can start building properly.

 

[SpurSince57]

I could have sworn we played catharsis on Thursday.

 

[kremlyn]

And the previous thursday but we just didn't learn.

 

[kremlyn]

This is an excellent post! Hope Levy sign you up as manager or sports director!

I would add Paulinho and Fazio to the outs as well.

Yees but.. There was a moment in the Astereas game when Paulinho had been brought on late where he put in a sharp, almost nasty tackle on one of their players which he won and I thought if we can get him good then he'd be the only experienced leader we'd have in our attacking midfield line up. If the management sold him then fine, but if they think they can bring him back then I'm all for it.

As for Fazio, I'd still rather persist with him rather than Kaboul or Chiriches. He's got pedigree but no experience of the league so again, if the management think it is worth persisting with then fine.

 

[SpurSince57]

Top post. I don't necessarily agree with every detail, but I certainly agree with the thrust of it.

Been saying it for a while, hence the thread I started that Adebayor needed to be dropped, but it extends way beyond that - indeed the points you make I've thought about also.

Strong decisions need to be made, that's the point, and the sooner that gets done the sooner we can start building properly.

Indeedy-doody. I suspect that the Dear Leader is considering his options right now.

 

[iluvsteffenfreund]

Well, well, well. Pick the bones out of that. Ironic, that today was Remembrance Day, as there are very few in this squad you would have in the trenches with you.

It's really hard to know where to start. Collectively, it was a shambles. Individually, it was diabolical. I struggle to remember a game where performing the basics was such an effort. Real basics like passing to a team mate, moving into space, moving the ball first time, putting in a challenge and maintaining shape. Really piss poor. Most of them barely put in half a shift.

Poch's team selections and in game decisions are leaving a lot to be desired. He seems to be panicking slightly and trying to appease the fans similar to Sherwood. We had no discernible game plan today, I genuinely am unsure what we were trying to do or how we were planning on scoring goals today. I'm guessing that pumping high balls to Kane against Stoke wasn't his game plan?! No Vertonghen? Stupidity.

The goals we conceded were laughable, in fact I did sadistically chuckle when they scored their second. Barely a challenge goes in for either. There is a real problem with this set of players when it comes to tackling. We have a number of players who either shirk tackles or tackle half heartedly. 50/50s should be renamed 90/10s when teams play against us.

At half time, you could have subbed any one of the outfield players and they wouldn't have been missed.

Worrying to see so many empty seats at the games, even before the fans began to vote with their feet. What will we do when we're meant to have 60,000 in?

Hard to know where we go from here.

Lloris - 5 - Being dragged down by the team. Thought he could have done better with the first. Feel a bit sorry for him, deserves better.

Naughton - 4 - poor throughout. Offers minimal attacking options and struggles to tackle with good technique. Schoolboy for the sending off.

Rose - 4 - no idea what he was doing for the second goal. Doesn't convince me he is a good enough defender and positionally suspect.

Kaboul - 3 - Captain Marvel. Misleads by example. Slow on the turn, beaten in the air, hoofs to no-one, wild clearances. Instils zero calm in our manic back line.

Fazio - 3 - I was no Dawson fan, but fuck me, this guy is even worse. Runs like he's pulled a hamstring and tries to dribble out of defence like Beckenbaur. A horror show today. Where the hell is Jan Vertonghen?!

Townsend - 4 - ran around a lot and produced nothing.

Chadli - 6 - peripheral for large parts but again popped up with a goal. Shame he's the only one.

Capoue - 4 - absolute garbage. Looks lethargic and was MIA for both goals. He wanders too far away from his post at regular intervals. A guy of his size should be dominating the midfield, instead he's another who lopes around shirking challenges,

Mason - 6 - cannot fault his work ethic or attitude. Can fault his positioning and erratic play. Simply don't see him as a CM2.

Eriksen - 4 - hardly noticed him. Has something gone on behind closed doors? Doesn't suit any type of pressing game. Should be dictating games like this, but instead just flounces around bottling out of challenges.

Kane - 5 - could he have done better with the first half chance? Little service and offered minimal output.


Adebayor - 2 - a joke currently. A really unfunny one. Barely broke into a jog and bottles out of every aerial duel. Stealing a living at present.

Lamela - 4 - struggles when teams get about him, seeming to want a touch too many. Got dragged too central in an already overcrowded middle part of the field. Would still be playing him most games.

Dembele - 4 - looks dejected to me. More so than normal. Zero impact and dawdled on the ball frequently. There's no point shouting at him to lift his head up, because he simply isn't capable.


Boooooooooo

Spot on mate. How the hell can we see the likes of capoue, naughton and kaboul are so so poor yet our manager can't ? Worried. Naughton for our first goal was comical! The fact these players hide and go missing when the fans turn is embarrasing. Give me half of what they earn and if recieve the ball anywhere on the pitch. I'd wear our shirt with pride and fight for the cause. Unacceptable this gang if clowns can't do any of it

 

[SlunkSoma]

Catharsis is an odd term that sot of means to purify by fire; that was awful but I can't help but feel that it and the preceding matches is a necessary evil.

We have a side that has no direction and was built without one; a squad of players assembled because of availability and potential re-sale value. Indeed I'm not sure I can remember a single player who we've bought in the last years who was bought by our manager to perform a key role in their system. It might be even longer than that but it has become far more visible because of the way our squad has bloated since the sale of Bale.

We now have 2 teams of good players who we rotate between midweek and weekend and I haven't seen any combination make a good team. I genuinely don't think it is the manager; I rather think this manager is the sort who performs better with a smaller, tighter squad anyway.

We've needed this result to see what needed to be seen; we need to trim the squad of as many as 8 players and buy 2/3 of the managers choice who he can build a team around.

On todays evidence the first name to go for me is Capoue. Pochetino wants to press in midfield and this guy is only slightly more mobile than Thudd with none of the redeeming qualities. I actually thought Nzonzi would be an upgrade (shudders).
After that is Kaboul and I don't care that it would be an unseemly slap in the face after being given the captaincy, he's just not a leader or an organiser or that good anymore and if you're going to be playing a high line you need to be all 3.
We have one of those and we should stop being silly and give the captaincy and an expectation that he'll play every game to Vertonghen who is easily the most qulaified.
I think it is a shame because he's clearly a good lad and footballer but I don't see how Dembele fits. Commentary team were reminding me how Hughes used to get the best out of him so I think he should go and be a more attacking player for a lower order team rather than use up a CM berth he isn't suited to in our team. Good luck Moussa. Chiriches, you too lad.
If we are going to occasionally play with wingers then we should keep either Townsend or Lennon, if not then they both need selling. Neither have the quality or intelligence to play as attacking midfielders and there are plenty of teams who will happily have them.
If you can't put the cares of the team above your own then you should be sold, Adebayor. Looking good for early retirement in the Turkish or possibly Qatari divisions.
FB isn't so much of a problem and will sort themselves out soon enough with the arrivals of Yedlin and Walker and the emergence of Davies.

I think we need a proper up-front-on-your-own number 9, a and possibly a CB to partner Vertoghen. But mainly we need a Central Midfielder of Pochs choosing, whether that is 25m on Schneiderlin or Cabaye or the clone of Van Bommel but a bastard of a player who can make a team of men out of the rabble of boys we're currently witnessing. Bring on the warhorse.

Excellent post, wholeheartedly agree.

The players have shown themselves up. Spurs won't get relegated, but we won't make top six either. We have some quality players, but half need to go, if not two thirds for this team to click.

Will be interesting to see if Levy invests in January. Byy reckoning he still has a lot if not half of the Bale money kicking around. There is certainly 25m given the actual outlay on some of the first team. Let's see how far he is willing to let this slide.

 

[Wellspurs]

In a weekend where I saw Sandro dominate v City and Siggy beat Scum,,, where do we go ,where do we go now?

 

[Jimmypearce7]

Fazio looks like he would struggle to get in a conference team.

 

[eddiebailey]

In a weekend where I saw Sandro dominate v City and Siggy beat Scum,,, where do we go ,where do we go now?

Said it before, in three transfer windows we have failed to upgrade in a single position, we have just churned players familiar with the league and settled at the club for more expensive players with comparable ability and less heart.

 

[EdmontonJohn]

Awful. Hard to do ratings, but interesting to judge each player against what their key roles ..

Loris 5. Could have done better with first goal
Naughton 5. Solid in second half. Should have done better I. Build up to first goal
Kabul 4.bad positioning and no leadership
Fazio 2. Awful
Rose 3 defensively awful but one ok cross
Capoe 3 defensively weak, didn't have much to pass to
Mason 3 wanders round tries hard I like him But does nothing to hurt opposition Leaves team completely exposed ... We have got steadily worse defensively with him in the side, even though he looks neat.
Eriksen 3. Just weak
Townsend 0 stupid. Useless player.
Chadli. 6 Our best player by a mile
Kane 3. Missed two chances. Can't hold the ball or link play. Sorry but we are going nowhere if he starts up front on his own

Subs 2. All poor.

Poch. 3. WE are getting worse

Awful

Play Soldado in all PL games. Drop Mason and play 2 strong midfielders to protect back four. Make Vert captain play Davies and pray he plays well. Play Lamela behind Soldado and buy someone to play on the right .. Sod it. Put Lennon there as he knows how to play there

 

[thinktank]

Fazio looks like he would struggle to get in a conference team.

I like him. Anyone coming into this back four now is gonna have a rough ride as the confidence is fucked.

I think we should allow him and davies to acclimatise.properly. Dier's ready though imo, he needs to be at CB now.