Next DoF

[hero]

We need us someone to explain what a scope of a Technical Director (Chelsea poached from Leipzig exactly TD) and a DOF.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Jack all point in signing youngsters when our own youngsters have no pathway to the first team

Absolutely and this has to be a priority for the new management team. We have to stop signing average squad players and start integrating our own youngsters.

This is where Spors seems like the best fit. There was interview posted last week that showed him talking positively about how the team should play with attacking intent (see about 1 minute in) and at a high tempo. Equally as importantly, he talked about the need to invest in, and place faith in the academy, placing huge emphasis on the ability to develop a constant stream of players from within (see about 9 minutes in).



That all sounds exactly what we are after. Cannot see why he wouldn’t be top of the list, other than I saw somewhere he may be reluctant to give up his global role for several clubs. Not sure where I saw it now.

 

[KingNick]

First time I’ve seen Phil Giles mentioned from Brentford which might make sense alongside Lee Dykes but granted, it’s a tentative link.

I’ve mentioned Phil on this site . I feel we are being watched…

edit: context was that Dykes should never have been under consideration because he was not even the person within Brentford doing the job we are looking to fill; Phil Giles is. But to be clear, I would not want Phil either. As we know, the methodology was brought in by the owner and also his former co-DOF, Rasmussen Ankerson who is now at Southampton. Phil is more a co-ordinator/budget/paperwork type I feel and so even he isn’t the profile for what we really need even if he’s closer to it than Dykes

 

[danielneeds]

Arsenal covered above.

Brighton have only 3 players under the age of 24 with 20+ appearances in all comps this season.


They might say hi - but they are not fielding a team of "youngsters", and the young players they do have are all linked to other teams for next season. If you want to be a feeder team - that's different than saying you want to consistently compete for the top of the table.


Again - if you want to expand that definition to include 24-25 YOs we can have a different discussion.

Again, no-one’s saying we should sign exclusively 18–19-year-olds and throw them all in the team like you’ve taken it. And I don’t mind selling players if the price is right. A well-run club shouldn’t be afraid to sell a player as they should have identified someone who could be better. One or two exceptions, like Kane, Mbappe, etc, but generally the failure to do this effectively killed Poch’s project.

 

[Joely]

Not convinced a DoF can come to us and truly stamp his mark when it comes to working towards a strategy. Just get the impression, for Levy, a DoF is someone who ultimately just facilitates what he wants out the market. Whether players fit into a particular strategy on the field is almost secondary. Doesn't mean we won't get players who are a good fit for us on the pitch, but not at all convinced it's the priority.

 

[Austin Powers]

I know next to fuck all about DoFs but as people get linked you read a bit about them & from what I've read Spors sounded exactly what we needed ... next day he's not a contender anymore

 

[spursfan77]

Looking for a new director of football and manager but giving Dier a new contract before both join would be classic levy. Moron.

 

[Fredo]

Whats the point in a DoF if Levy gets the ultimate final say on whether we pay the money or not? Unless hes given a budget an can do whatever the fuck he wants with it, Levy might aswell just do it himself

 

[spurs9]

Not sure, just had a quick look and there’s only 1 client of mendes at roma and that’s patricio the GK.
whilst he may have links with mendes (probably because he’s Portuguese) it doesn’t look like he’s just buying his mates.

Yeah and in his 3 years at Benfica, he only signed 2 Mendez players (1 of whom was his best signing).

I don't want him, as in his 5 & 1/2 years as Sporting Director at Benfica and Roma, he has made 49 signings and only 3 have been good, which includes Dybala. He did get stupid money for Felix and Lindelof though, so maybe we could have 2 DoF and he can be in charge of selling, just no where near recruitment.

 

[spurs9]

Strange he doesn't even appear to be under consideration. He's even worked with Slot for a while...

Max Huiberts is the guy who sacked Slot for speaking with Feyenoord, so I doubt they would want to work together. Also, his best first team signings are Weghorst and Midtsjo, so not sure I would be over joyed with that appointment.

 

[Finchyid]

Tottenham target Arne Slot poised to receive near-£3m offer to stay at Feyenoord

Slot has guided the Dutch club to a superb season in the Eredivisie and they are prepared to make a big offer to keep him

www.telegraph.co.uk

While Spurs are currently not pursuing Nagelsmann, that situation could change if Levy hires a sporting director who recommends that he should look again at the German, although the 35-year-old may not necessarily be open to another approach.

We are all over the shop.

How do you work that out? Based on a theory from the telegraph?

 

[olithfc]

How do you work that out? Based on a theory from the telegraph?

Based on us not having a manager or. Dof when there’s been at least two top class candidates in each category out of work, plus the fact that it was probable we might need to look for both those roles as far back as December

 

[spursfan77]

Based on us not having a manager or. Dof when there’s been at least two top class candidates in each category out of work, plus the fact that it was probable we might need to look for both those roles as far back as December

Maybe both people are in jobs and don’t want to leave until the season is over?

 

[Russ1201]

Yeah and in his 3 years at Benfica, he only signed 2 Mendez players (1 of whom was his best signing).

I don't want him, as in his 5 & 1/2 years as Sporting Director at Benfica and Roma, he has made 49 signings and only 3 have been good, which includes Dybala. He did get stupid money for Felix and Lindelof though, so maybe we could have 2 DoF and he can be in charge of selling, just no where near recruitment.

Levy will most likely sign him just for the large profit he can make on sales. That would be his only priority. That clown is destroying our club.

 

[spurs9]

Levy will most likely sign him just for the large profit he can make on sales. That would be his only priority. That clown is destroying our club.

I can't strongly recommend enough to stop making scenarios up in your head and then getting angry at them. It will do wonders for your mental health.

 

[Russ1201]

I can't strongly recommend enough to stop making scenarios up in your head and then getting angry at them. It will do wonders for your mental health.

I'm just became accustomed to Levy fucking up. Glad you have faith in Levy
It's ok i don't let football affect my mental health but thanks for the advice

 

[olithfc]

Maybe both people are in jobs and don’t want to leave until the season is over?

It's so unbelievably clear that whilst that might end up being the case with the candidates we go for, we have looked and approached (and been knocked back) others first. it just isn't that well thought out. we would have appointed tuchel if BM hadn't acted quickly.

 

[spursfan77]

It's so unbelievably clear that whilst that might end up being the case with the candidates we go for, we have looked and approached (and been knocked back) others first. it just isn't that well thought out. we would have appointed tuchel if BM hadn't acted quickly.

Yep. Whilst I’m willing to give the club a bit of leeway regarding the manager, I’m less so with the DOF. They can be approached any time and tried to tie down ahead of time, no doubt any in a job would have to serve some gardening leave anyway due to the nature of their roles. This could still be the case with this appointment btw, hence why going for someone out of a job is probably the better move. But in reality, as soon as we knew paratici was on the way out or potentially, we should have had someone else in mind.

 

[bubble07]

This is where Spors seems like the best fit. There was interview posted last week that showed him talking positively about how the team should play with attacking intent (see about 1 minute in) and at a high tempo. Equally as importantly, he talked about the need to invest in, and place faith in the academy, placing huge emphasis on the ability to develop a constant stream of players from within (see about 9 minutes in).



That all sounds exactly what we are after. Cannot see why he wouldn’t be top of the list, other than I saw somewhere he may be reluctant to give up his global role for several clubs. Not sure where I saw it now.

I see more advantages with having a global dof as long as we are top of the food chain

 

[danielneeds]

The funniest thing is assuming that because a DOF and coach are the same nationality or have worked together before they are a good fit.

I’ve worked with plenty of British twats that I would never want to work with again! Lol.