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Bighec

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Also, the apparent perimeter of the stadium in photos of the site is a bit deceptive. It's actually the perimeter of the sheet-piling that encloses the excavation and prevents the surrounding soil from collapsing. I'd expect that to be a metre or two outside the eventual line of the stadium itself, so they have room to work. So it makes the gap look a bit narrower than it will be .
Thank you everyone for setting my mind at rest and patiently (mostly) pointing out my error.
This is a wonderful forum with great contributors and we are all going to get the stadium we deserve.
Can't wait.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Am I the only one who is a bit disappointed with the design of the new stadium?

I think we had a chance to do something architecturally different but we seem to have gone for a very safe and pretty boring design.
 

KingKay

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Am I the only one who is a bit disappointed with the design of the new stadium?

I think we had a chance to do something architecturally different but we seem to have gone for a very safe and pretty boring design.

On the whole I think the lack of distinctive design features has been covered up by the relief that we're finally moving forward. I think the South stand could potentially be quite unique, but the worry is that it will be hidden behind the tower blocks and won't be visible from the High road.

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The idea of Levy spending x amount on an aesthetically pleasing stadium was fanciful from the outset. It was always going to be functional and packed with other potential revenue streams to maximise return. The sensible thing to do to be fair.

Chelsea's stadium is a potentially iconic design, and may win a few RIBA awards, but in reality it's just a monument to Abramovich. Dick waving if you like.
 
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THFCSPURS19

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Am I the only one who is a bit disappointed with the design of the new stadium?

I think we had a chance to do something architecturally different but we seem to have gone for a very safe and pretty boring design.
To be honest, I actually think it is quite distinctive, certainly better than the previous design which was very generic.
 

Danfunkel

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Am I the only one who is a bit disappointed with the design of the new stadium?

I think we had a chance to do something architecturally different but we seem to have gone for a very safe and pretty boring design.

I agree it's no Allianz ( the best looking stadium in football IMO) but it's what it does inside is what will make it special. The size of it, the closeness to the pitch compared to other large stadia, the kop, and the sliding pitch all make it stand out from the rest in my view.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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On the whole I think the lack of distinctive design features has been covered up by the relief that we're finally moving forward. I think the South stand could potentially be quite unique, but the worry is that it will be hidden behind the tower blocks and won't be visible from the High road.

southext_zpsgdgqiltt.png


The idea of Levy spending x amount on an aesthetically pleasing stadium was fanciful from the outset. It was always going to be functional and packed with other potential revenue streams to maximise return. The sensible thing to do to be fair.

Chelsea's stadium is a potentially iconic design, and may win a few RIBA awards, but in reality it's just a monument to Abramovich. Dick waving if you like.


Call me old fashioned but I think there is almost a civic duty when building something as iconic as a major sports stadium to make it architecturally valuable. I think our new design just looks a bit "groovy airport terminal building".
 

Bus-Conductor

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I agree it's no Allianz ( the best looking stadium in football IMO) but it's what it does inside is what will make it special. The size of it, the closeness to the pitch compared to other large stadia, the kop, and the sliding pitch all make it stand out from the rest in my view.

I don't agree. Inside is of course very important, but colossal stadiums are landmark buildings. They are unique structures, rarely built and a community has to live with it and stare at every day. And you want to inspire those that visit it every time they see it.
 

KingKay

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Call me old fashioned but I think there is almost a civic duty when building something as iconic as a major sports stadium to make it architecturally valuable. I think our new design just looks a bit "groovy airport terminal building".

Can't argue with your reasoning, and that's certainly the way I'd approach it in an ideal world. However throw Levy and financial considerations in to the equation and form was always going to follow function.
 

Danfunkel

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I don't agree. Inside is of course very important, but colossal stadiums are landmark buildings. They are unique structures, rarely built and a community has to live with it and stare at every day. And you want to inspire those that visit it every time they see it.

I get what you mean, and I think if it were anywhere else it might have been a little less 'safe' looking. But right in the middle of Tottenham, with housing very close by, and such a tight footprint to work with, I don't think we'd get much different.

Move away to a large abandoned site somewhere without so many planing restrictions, then maybe.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Call me old fashioned but I think there is almost a civic duty when building something as iconic as a major sports stadium to make it architecturally valuable. I think our new design just looks a bit "groovy airport terminal building".
We still have financial constraints. We could have something outrageously cool like the new Mercedes-Benz Stadium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Stadium), but that costs nearly £1bn (£985m)
 

Phischy

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I think that the previous design had become so out of date and was so safe that the new one was seen as a huge improvement, even if, on reflection, it isn't as special as the likes of the Allianz or the original New Mestalla designs.

I like it, but my concern is that it is a touch generic, but more than that, the old design had a fair few golden cockerels and things, I see very little that really shouts SPURS on the outside of the new stadium. That should really be improved. I also still want to see a Cockerel on top of the East Stand.

It's definitely an 8/10 design in a world where the Allianz is 10/10, but we simply wouldn't have the resource to reach those or even greater heights, because the cost of doing special things to the outside would likely be disproportionately high compared with the cost of other elements. So I think we have a decent compromise and if they really go to town and make it properly ours from a visual perspective I will be more than happy with it.
 

pffft

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Is it too late to change the design again? We missed a trick by having actual architects design the stadium. Bursaspor's president let his 4 year old grand-daughter have a go at theirs and they ended up with this:

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Although admittedly things might have gone a bit wrong if someone misunderstood the instruction "I want our stadium to have a giant cock as an entrance."

There are some great looking designs here:

http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/11...-new-football-stadiums-from-around-the-world/

I still like ours, but some of these are better.
 
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