Jose Mourinho

[Deleted member 27995]

Prime opportunity for a matalan joke then..

Sports Direct?

 

[dagraham]

You know where he get his top and jacket?

Primark..... used Levy’s store card.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

You trying to catch me out? I am restricted from saying the four letter word beginning with C but just look at Danny Mills or Gabby Agbonlahor and what's the first C word that comes to mind...

Add ish to it.

Have a laugh ?

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

You know where he get his top and jacket?

Amazon

 

[riggi]

Jacamo is basically online Matalan isn't it.

The chant we used to sing to him when he was at Chelsea. “Your suits from Matalan, your suits from Matalan..”

kmt you kids.

 

[Shadydan]

The chant we used to sing to him when he was at Chelsea. “Your suits from Matalan, your suits from Matalan..”

kmt you kids.

Sorry not down with the Tottenham firm

 

[Phomesy]

1 loss is all it takes for the confirmation bias against Jose to come to fruition in your warped minds, sort it out ffs ?

While this can be irritating I also happen to think it's understandable in some ways.

I like Mourinho for the most part; I think his record speaks for itself and, unlike some others, I think his tenure at United was a major success for the most part.

However, I don't think I trust Mourinho at Spurs yet. So there's a nagging doubt. Some people let that nagging doubt become full blown Chicken Little.

Trust like that takes time. The trust I had in Pochettino's Spurs only solidified after 2016/17 when we steamrollled our way to second and put the ghosts of "coming 3rd in a 2 horse race" to bed. After that I was all in - to the extent that I still think Poch should have been given more time. That's a subjective view rather than objective analysis of his results for 18 months. But that's what "trust" earns you, I guess.

Mourinho hasn't had enough time or a settled team long enough so until he does there will be that nagging doubt. If we're still Top 4 or in a race by January I think that will be enough to dispel the Chicken Littles...

 

[mattspur1]

I wonder if someone could shine a light on something for me. I recently posted on this thread and received all sorts of icons, funnies, dislikes etc. Now, I stand by the comment I made about Jose not bringing us any silverware (I obviously hope to be proved wrong). However I received a load of 'spam's. I know this isn't a good thing, but would love to know what this actually means?

 

[PLTuck]

I wonder if someone could shine a light on something for me. I recently posted on this thread and received all sorts of icons, funnies, dislikes etc. Now, I stand by the comment I made about Jose not bringing us any silverware (I obviously hope to be proved wrong). However I received a load of 'spam's. I know this isn't a good thing, but would love to know what this actually means?

Ignore them, they mean nothing. Spam I think is meant for say the what our opponents are saying about us thread when people get into debates over whether Lo Celso is better than Bruno Fernandes for example.

EDIT: For the record, I personally am liberal with using the agree, like, informative and funny ratings. I rarely if ever use the others. But as with all internet points, people have their own ideas of how they use them.

 

[rez9000]

Ignore them, they mean nothing. Spam I think is meant for say the what our opponents are saying about us thread when people get into debates over whether Lo Celso is better than Bruno Fernandes for example.

EDIT: For the record, I personally am liberal with using the agree, like, informative and funny ratings. I rarely if ever use the others. But as with all internet points, people have their own ideas of how they use them.

Can I 'Spam' this? I mean it's not about Mourinho.

I'm not doing it right, am I?

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Amazon

I used to wear clothes from Amazon when I was younger and in my Prime

 

[mattspur1]

Ignore them, they mean nothing. Spam I think is meant for say the what our opponents are saying about us thread when people get into debates over whether Lo Celso is better than Bruno Fernandes for example.

EDIT: For the record, I personally am liberal with using the agree, like, informative and funny ratings. I rarely if ever use the others. But as with all internet points, people have their own ideas of how they use them.

I see thank you.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I wonder if someone could shine a light on something for me. I recently posted on this thread and received all sorts of icons, funnies, dislikes etc. Now, I stand by the comment I made about Jose not bringing us any silverware (I obviously hope to be proved wrong). However I received a load of 'spam's. I know this isn't a good thing, but would love to know what this actually means?

The two posts which receive negative ratings are below. I would suggest it’s mainly to do with how you’ve stated two things which are highly subjective but presented both as fact and without showing much by way of reasoning, and you did so off the back of a match where we essentially played players who’d not had much pitch time at all this season in over half the team.

Comments like ‘another poor performance’ and ‘we will win nothing with Jose in charge’ in the face of having not lost a match in almost seven weeks and having at times played some lovely football with some great goals, even accepting that there are still chinks in the armour which need addressing, reek of someone with a predetermined opinion which he’s going to be completely inflexible about, rather than someone taking all the evidence at hand and forming an opinion based on that. I’m not saying my assessment here is correct, by the way, but it’s certainly what I inferred, and while I can’t speak for anyone else I imagine I’m not alone in that.

Had you said ‘I don’t think this defence is good enough to win anything’ or ‘I don’t think Jose is doing quite as well as is being made out and I personally can’t see us winning with him in charge’, for instance, I think you’d have received far less grief for it while making the same point, I.e. you don’t think we’re good enough defensively and you don’t think Jose is the right man for the job.

Another poor performance where we have no shape or game plan. I stand by my comments from 2/3 months ago, we will win nothing with Jose in charge.

We are not strong enough at the back to win anything.

 

[buckley]

My feeling is that the six games after the international break when we play City / Chelsea / Arsenal / Liverpool / Leicester / Wolves / this will define our season as regard the top four IMO . the only top team we dont play is Man Unt .
Strangely I dont feel worried if our A game is on show . We should start the judgement after this run of games .

 

[BringBack_leGin]

My feeling is that the six games after the international break when we play City / Chelsea / Arsenal / Liverpool / Leicester / Wolves / this will define our season as regard the top four IMO . the only top team we dont play is Man Unt .
Strangely I dont feel worried if our A game is on show . We should start the judgement after this run of games .

Agree with this. It’s imperative that we go into these off the back of 6 points in our next two matches, not just because of likelihood of stopping points in those matches you mention but also because we will fare far better if we’ve built up a head of steam and have a crest of a wave to ride.

 

[mattspur1]

The two posts which receive negative ratings are below. I would suggest it’s mainly to do with how you’ve stated two things which are highly subjective but presented both as fact and without showing much by way of reasoning, and you did so off the back of a match where we essentially played players who’d not had much pitch time at all this season in over half the team.

Comments like ‘another poor performance’ and ‘we will win nothing with Jose in charge’ in the face of having not lost a match in almost seven weeks and having at times played some lovely football with some great goals, even accepting that there are still chinks in the armour which need addressing, reek of someone with a predetermined opinion which he’s going to be completely inflexible about, rather than someone taking all the evidence at hand and forming an opinion based on that. I’m not saying my assessment here is correct, by the way, but it’s certainly what I inferred, and while I can’t speak for anyone else I imagine I’m not alone in that.

Had you said ‘I don’t think this defence is good enough to win anything’ or ‘I don’t think Jose is doing quite as well as is being made out and I personally can’t see us winning with him in charge’, for instance, I think you’d have received far less grief for it while making the same point, I.e. you don’t think we’re good enough defensively and you don’t think Jose is the right man for the job.

Thanks for your explanation. However the way I aired my views was not in an aggressive way. I didn't swear for example. I spoke with passion and dissatisfaction. When would I raise these comments, after a victory?? I very much doubt me using the wording you suggested would have achieved a different result. Is there an element of disappointment in people following the result that I was a target for it? I think so. I'm not really sure what I can post on here in future.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Thanks for your explanation. However the way I aired my views was not in an aggressive way. I didn't swear for example. I spoke with passion and dissatisfaction. When would I raise these comments, after a victory?? I very much doubt me using the wording you suggested would have achieved a different result. Is there an element of disappointment in people following the result that I was a target for it? I think so. I'm not really sure what I can post on here in future.

Nobody as far as I can tell is upset that you showed passion or dissatisfaction, we were all pissed off, but even your comment here suggests that you were waiting for a bad result so you could restate your options about a manager who has for all intents and purposes not done much wrong since joining.

You shouldn’t feel reluctant to post, but I do disagree with you about the reaction you’d have generated being different if you’d posted a less entrenched version of your opinion, I think posters on this site out on the whole pretty good at discussion around opposing view points as we are ultimately unified by the same desire for Spurs to succeed. I’m guilty of stating opinion as fast too, everyone is, especially with the faceless audience which by its very nature is unreadable. However, I think if you’d included a bit of caveat and a bit of reasoning in your post it’d have attracted a discussion instead of the irate thumbs of a bunch of posters rolling their eyes at what they might have perceived as knee jerk and close minded (though as ever, I may well be wrong in my ability to ascertain what others will have inferred from your post).

 

[rez9000]

Thanks for your explanation. However the way I aired my views was not in an aggressive way. I didn't swear for example. I spoke with passion and dissatisfaction. When would I raise these comments, after a victory?? I very much doubt me using the wording you suggested would have achieved a different result. Is there an element of disappointment in people following the result that I was a target for it? I think so. I'm not really sure what I can post on here in future.

It's not necessarily you, matt - it's that there's a small but significant constituency on the board that has been opposed to Mourinho's appointment from the off. And, as I'm sure you know, people don't like looking like they were wrong. So, what happens is that when we win, they're nowhere to be found. Because they know that the choice before them is:

• to continue stating their opposition, in which case they'll be questioned as to why they're being negative after we've won;
• say nothing and keep holding on to their opinion in the face of contrary evidence;
• admit that they may have been wrong.

But when we lose, it's the perfect opportunity to come out and thrust out their chins (metaphorically) and say, 'ha! told you so!' even though they actually need to ignore a massive part of what's gone before the bad result to do so. There's no requirement for them to change their opinion, but the fact that they're more concerned with how their opinion will be received rather than how much they believe in it (hence their hiding away when we get good results), suggests that deep-down they know that they simply don't like Mourinho and that it's not his managerial ability that's the problem, but that it's personal.

That contrasts the one or two on the board who were initially against Mourinho, sometimes very vociferously, but who have since recanted their previous position and now are pleased with him as manager and have said as much on the board. These people, I admire - because, to my way of thinking, it's a wise person who changes their mind in the light of different evidence. For me, the fool is the one who denies the evidence in front of them and insists on their opinion whatever happens. Anyone who thinks that being stubborn and refusing to change one's opinion (something I lambast myself for on occassion) is the same as being strong is just that much more foolish.

So, it's then very easy to feel that you may be one of them, even if you're not, because whenever there's a bad result, they pop up like mushrooms after rain.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Can I 'Spam' this? I mean it's not about Mourinho.

I'm not doing it right, am I?

No idea, I get it wrong all the time

 

[rez9000]

No idea, I get it wrong all the time

I was so tempted to give this an 'Informative' rating - just to demonstrate my expertise!