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How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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I think there is a stat going around that says 80-90% of January business usually happens in the last few days. Frustrating as we need certain signings yesterday but it seems currently everyone is kicking the tyres and waiting for the transfer merry-go-round to start. Hopefully things fall in our favour, CE, Wanyama and KWP go and Jose gets a decent new DM and Striker.
The key issue we've had is getting rid of players, we can't bring any in because our squad is full and especially our quota of non homegrown players so the sooner we can ship 4-5 players the better so we can bring in ones to strengthern where we need to, i think we might have a lot of activity because as soon as say CE, Wanyama and KWP were to go we can then bring in 2-3.

Here's hoping anyway.
 

freeeki

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Aug 5, 2008
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The key issue we've had is getting rid of players, we can't bring any in because our squad is full and especially our quota of non homegrown players so the sooner we can ship 4-5 players the better so we can bring in ones to strengthern where we need to, i think we might have a lot of activity because as soon as say CE, Wanyama and KWP were to go we can then bring in 2-3.

Here's hoping anyway.

Last season and this window combined, we've brought in: Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, Gedson

We've shipped out: Trippier, Janssen, Nkoudou, Llorente, Dembele, Onomah

(I've taken Clarke and Vorm out of the equation as they effectively cancel themselves out)

Add to that the fact we should be seeing Eriksen, KWP and Wanyama leaving, I make that 4 in and potentially 9 out.

We've already got the squad spaces and we've allegedly got the money to spend, there really are no excuses at this point.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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Lol at your username me and my work mates bang on about this all the time.

No matter what happens for the rest of the season we should have tried as hard as we could to have replacements sorted for Jan and Eriksen this window. You could argue the club view Sessegnon as Rose's replacement. As well as that we should have been backing Kane up effectively when we were selling Janssen and letting Llorente go. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see we are flogging Kane to death every year and that injury is inevitable. He's had semi long term injuries in at least 3 of the last 4 seasons now. Letting Llorente go and not replacing him was a big mistake in the summer as was not adding defensive depth at RB. The problems we have now come from not investing adequately over a number of windows. It's not just the manager change but a total lack of foresight regarding the contract status of senior players and placing money (Dembele, Llorente and Vorm) over having squad depth.

If nothing else I hope this season is a watermark for what happens when you neglect the playing squad over a number of windows and stop doing what we have done best from about 2014 -2017. Either way if Mourinho isn't backed properly to do the job he proved he can there is nowhere to hide for Levy and ENIC.

haha thanks mate its hillarious isn't it. Unfortunately I can confirm that isn't me but yea i was inspired by the vid with the username its just so random and funny, that dude is hench as f now if you've not already seen.

Anyways back to Spurs... I agree with your analysis its just poor squad management especially the lack of a back-up to Kane, its negligence and embaressing really, same issue at RB.

Its coming to a crunch isn't it, if we don't address our issues this Jan and in summer hopefully the daggers will be out for ENIC but i'm hopeful that things will turn around soon starting with a ST signing this window then Jose can as you say gradually introduce Sess at LB, Toby is tied down to new contract, CE will leave which will be good for squad morale, Tanganga emergence is positive, Hugo and Davies back soon, Lo celso getting up to speed, hopefully we can get Ndombele's fitness issues sorted and we'll start to have the makings of a very strong team again with 2-3 signings in summer as well.

Lets see how it pans out.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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Last season and this window combined, we've brought in: Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, Gedson

We've shipped out: Trippier, Janssen, Nkoudou, Llorente, Dembele, Onomah

(I've taken Clarke and Vorm out of the equation as they effectively cancel themselves out)

Add to that the fact we should be seeing Eriksen, KWP and Wanyama leaving, I make that 4 in and potentially 9 out.

We've already got the squad spaces and we've allegedly got the money to spend, there really are no excuses at this point.
I agree mate its not been good enough but do we have the squad places? I think currently with Fernandes in we are one too many over the non homegrown quota for the CL and possibly at the limit for the PL so I think we still need to sell before we can buy unless anyone else has worked it out?

But yes either way Levy needs to step up, I think we're all getting a bit sick and tired of the excuses now, its a fucking football club not just a business for profit, the squad management and recruitment and succession planning etc simply needs to be improved.
 
May 17, 2018
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Last season and this window combined, we've brought in: Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, Gedson

We've shipped out: Trippier, Janssen, Nkoudou, Llorente, Dembele, Onomah

(I've taken Clarke and Vorm out of the equation as they effectively cancel themselves out)

Add to that the fact we should be seeing Eriksen, KWP and Wanyama leaving, I make that 4 in and potentially 9 out.

We've already got the squad spaces and we've allegedly got the money to spend, there really are no excuses at this point.

Not sure you can count Onomah, Janssen and Nkoudou fully as they were mostly banished and hadn't been involved for 2 years anyway
 

Jaddas

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Aug 15, 2008
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Jose's joined the right club for spending!


Jose Mourinho has spent a staggering £1.3bn on players during his managerial career - around £300m more than the second ranked boss.

The Portuguese has never been afraid to splash the cash - whether at Chelsea, Real Madrid or Manchester Utd- and new research shows just how much more he has spent than any other manager

Carlo Ancelotti is the next highest in the list of big spending managers but his outlay at the likes of AC Milan, Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Real and Bayern Munich is £300m less than Mourinho at just shy on £1bn .



I'm sure a few years with bean counter Levy will ensure he loses his top ranking!

In all seriousness, the article is not fair as Jose has been managing longer than most at the top of the list and there's a bit of negative media reporting when it comes to Jose. Also, he's been at high profile clubs who always spent big......that is till he came to us!!!
 

dagraham

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Sep 20, 2005
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Jose's joined the right club for spending!


Jose Mourinho has spent a staggering £1.3bn on players during his managerial career - around £300m more than the second ranked boss.

The Portuguese has never been afraid to splash the cash - whether at Chelsea, Real Madrid or Manchester Utd- and new research shows just how much more he has spent than any other manager

Carlo Ancelotti is the next highest in the list of big spending managers but his outlay at the likes of AC Milan, Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Real and Bayern Munich is £300m less than Mourinho at just shy on £1bn .



I'm sure a few years with bean counter Levy will ensure he loses his top ranking!

In all seriousness, the article is not fair as Jose has been managing longer than most at the top of the list and there's a bit of negative media reporting when it comes to Jose. Also, he's been at high profile clubs who always spent big......that is till he came to us!!!

Well they say it’s good to broaden your experiences in life :D.
 

RichieS

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Dec 23, 2004
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Jose's joined the right club for spending!


Jose Mourinho has spent a staggering £1.3bn on players during his managerial career - around £300m more than the second ranked boss.

The Portuguese has never been afraid to splash the cash - whether at Chelsea, Real Madrid or Manchester Utd- and new research shows just how much more he has spent than any other manager

Carlo Ancelotti is the next highest in the list of big spending managers but his outlay at the likes of AC Milan, Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Real and Bayern Munich is £300m less than Mourinho at just shy on £1bn .



I'm sure a few years with bean counter Levy will ensure he loses his top ranking!

In all seriousness, the article is not fair as Jose has been managing longer than most at the top of the list and there's a bit of negative media reporting when it comes to Jose. Also, he's been at high profile clubs who always spent big......that is till he came to us!!!
Subjective, obviously, but I would say José's most impressive achievements are his CL wins with Porto and Inter. What does the article say about his spending there?
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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Levy has backed himself into a bit of a corner now.
With Poch at the helm, he had a manager of promise, but without a track record of success. Poch typically didn’t rock the boat transfer wise, and allowed the staleness of the squad to happen. Any failure could equally be attributed to lack of investment, but also to Poch not having the ability to take us to the next level. Equally, Poch never really made demands, often just taking Levy’s transfer failings quietly in his stride.
However, now with Mourinho in charge, we have manager who is a proven winner, shown to have taken teams onto the next level time and again. So, if/when Levy doesn’t deliver on the transfer front, you know Mourinho will be making it quite clear what he’s asked for and whether it’s not been delivered, placing then onus very firmly at Levy’s door. We’re seeing this already, as Mourinho openly states his transfer requirements to the press. It’s a very clear and confident, “if you want success, back me and I’ll deliver.”, so if they don’t, he’s warned them. Levy must have know this, so you can only assume he’s appointed Mourinho with intention of backing him.

if Levy told him we don't have a lot to spend in January especially knowing that you pay OTT in January, then at the moment Levy hasn't lied to him. always a possibility he also told Mourinho we need to sell before we sign because of the size of the squad. when JM joined we had 24 senior players, we now have 26 though CCV will be pushed out.

we need to let KWP and Foyth (for their own good), we need to get the deal to get Eriksen out, and hope someone takes Wanyama off our hands too.

whats not helped is having Kane and Sissoko out, because when JM joined they were both fit and playing
 

Harryson

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Apr 4, 2019
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It clearly wasn't working with Poch and something had to change and with JM being available it had to happen when it did because shortly after a few other managers were sacked and JM probably would be at Arsenal now.

The plan was probably agreed with a summer rebuild. It's only because of the injuries there is some panic and if we could get in a quick fix until the end of the season they'll do it.

Personally I will judge JM from next season because he has inherited a disjointed side that clearly needs a rebuild. However, can already see the Mourhino impact in our most recent games and it is better than it was.
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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Jose's joined the right club for spending!


Jose Mourinho has spent a staggering £1.3bn on players during his managerial career - around £300m more than the second ranked boss.

The Portuguese has never been afraid to splash the cash - whether at Chelsea, Real Madrid or Manchester Utd- and new research shows just how much more he has spent than any other manager

Carlo Ancelotti is the next highest in the list of big spending managers but his outlay at the likes of AC Milan, Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Real and Bayern Munich is £300m less than Mourinho at just shy on £1bn .



I'm sure a few years with bean counter Levy will ensure he loses his top ranking!

In all seriousness, the article is not fair as Jose has been managing longer than most at the top of the list and there's a bit of negative media reporting when it comes to Jose. Also, he's been at high profile clubs who always spent big......that is till he came to us!!!

Poor Jose. It's probably a bit like always managing a premiership team in FM then you take a job in the lower leagues and realise the lack of budget!
 

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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So, if all the recent ITK scuttlebutt is on the money, and basically confirms that Jose took the gig under false pretenses from Levy, then is there a fair chance he will walk in the summer. As the most recent Herc info paints a massively damning picture of Levy being completely untrustworthy. So, who would blame Jose for walking?

And if that happens, then i can only see a top manager joining, cos they're more interested in getting paid, then competing at the highest level. As it would seem Levy is too much of a fiscal control freak to get big deals over the line and is apparently willing to lie his ass off to appease his coaches.

To be clear... I'm not a Levy hater. I'm simply responding to our resident ITK, who has illustrated a rather bleak portrayal of what's going on behind the scenes. A veritable insight that hardly leaves me feeling confident about our future. Quite the opposite. I'd like to hope that is not completely the case, but Herc seemed pretty stonewall clear about the situation.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Jul 10, 2008
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So, if all the recent ITK scuttlebutt is on the money, and basically confirms that Jose took the gig under false pretenses from Levy, then is there a fair chance he will walk in the summer. As the most recent Herc info paints a massively damning picture of Levy being completely untrustworthy. So, who would blame Jose for walking?

And if that happens, then i can only see a top manager joining, cos they're more interested in getting paid, then competing at the highest level. As it would seem Levy is too much of a fiscal control freak to get big deals over the line and is apparently willing to lie his ass off to appease his coaches.

To be clear... I'm not a Levy hater. I'm simply responding to our resident ITK, who has illustrated a rather bleak portrayal of what's going on behind the scenes. A veritable insight that hardly leaves me feeling confident about our future. Quite the opposite. I'd like to hope that is not completely the case, but Herc seemed pretty stonewall clear about the situation.

Tbh I don't believe this. He's actually come out and in press conferences and explicitly said he knew the entire situation before he took the job.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Tbh I don't believe this. He's actually come out and in press conferences and explicitly said he knew the entire situation before he took the job.

Exactly, I agree. There is no way Mourinho took the job without knowing what Levy is like he’s not an idiot. Levy isn’t one either, he knows what Mourinho is like.

Basically we have no idea what was said. I would rather judge the relationship at the end of next august once the next transfer window (if it gets extended again to the end of the month) has shut. If Mourinho has his players in and the ones he doesn’t want out then it’s time to judge them. Now is massively jumping the gun.
 

stonebrow

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Jun 28, 2012
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Exactly, I agree. There is no way Mourinho took the job without knowing what Levy is like he’s not an idiot. Levy isn’t one either, he knows what Mourinho is like.

Basically we have no idea what was said. I would rather judge the relationship at the end of next august once the next transfer window (if it gets extended again to the end of the month) has shut. If Mourinho has his players in and the ones he doesn’t want out then it’s time to judge them. Now is massively jumping the gun.
When is this being decided?
 

mill

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May 21, 2007
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Exactly, I agree. There is no way Mourinho took the job without knowing what Levy is like he’s not an idiot. Levy isn’t one either, he knows what Mourinho is like.

Basically we have no idea what was said. I would rather judge the relationship at the end of next august once the next transfer window (if it gets extended again to the end of the month) has shut. If Mourinho has his players in and the ones he doesn’t want out then it’s time to judge them. Now is massively jumping the gun.

Jose’s already said he wants to challenge for the league next season, let’s see if levy can deliver sufficient quality
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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When is this being decided?

There’s a premier league meeting with the chairmen at the start of February. I’m sure I read it’s on the agenda for then

Jose’s already said he wants to challenge for the league next season, let’s see if levy can deliver sufficient quality

I think we both know the answer but let’s hope the opposite is true! ??
 

Ron Burgundy

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Jun 19, 2008
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1) I think it's crazy to think Levy has made a load of promises that have been (in a matter of weeks) renaged upon. I just don't see that at all

2) I do think it's likely that Jose figured our squad was a lot better than it actually was, in terms of quality, balance and depth...all of which we have issues with

3) All that notwithstanding, I feel it's been a highly underwhelming start.

I wasn't for Jose's appointment, but there was part of me that thought it might work. In reality, it's now horridly uncomfortable viewing and there's not even been a honeymoon period to enjoy.

I feel disengaged and I just care a lot less than I used to, which is really sad.
 

arunspurs

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Aug 31, 2012
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Jose understands his stock was down & number of clubs in PL suited for him was very less. Arsenal is skint. Liverpool don’t need him. Chelsea & United won’t go back to him. In Europe, Barca , RM, Bayern , Juve don’t need or want him for their own reason . PSG are only club that may look at Jose but even in his year absence they didn’t approach him .
IMO , Jose knows above & knows he has to manage differently here on in. So I am sure he understood what’s the budget available before he took the job. I still feel he has the better squad than his Chelsea v2 and United squad he had.
He has simply been unlucky in injury front. Once he starts our team defending well our only way is up. Ofcourse he needs baldy to support him with signings. I hope we give him the support coz he is our best bet to win trophies
 
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