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Yid-ol

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I thought only the winner of the FA was given a spot. If that winner is in the top 4, then the loser of the FA final is outside the top 4 they go. The FA cup only has 1 spot to UEFA to give away though.

In short, No. The situation you are describing shouldnt matter. League gives 1 spot, CC gives 1 spot, and FA gives 1 spot.

CC winers only get UEFA cup spot, if winners are in CL then spot goes to league

FA cup winners get UEFA cup spot, if winners are already in or in CL then runners up get it, if both are in already then it goes to the league
 

bubble07

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what about the fair play league? we are doing pretty well in that. Remember one time we were in the hat but didn't get pulled out
 

Greavesy

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Forget all this 'if we win the CC.....' BS.

If we win it we won't care which position in the league gets UEFA, we'll already be in it :)

Marty's first post is clear on the possibilities if we don't win it, but let's try no to think about that for now.
 

Marty

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Of course, should we be the 'fairest playing' non-qualifier and be lucky enough to get pulled out of the hat we will get into the UEFA Cup that way.

But the chances of that are so small I don't see the point of discussing it.
 

Marty

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Forget all this 'if we win the CC.....' BS.

If we win it we won't care which position in the league gets UEFA, we'll already be in it :)

Marty's first post is clear on the possibilities if we don't win it, but let's try no to think about that for now.

Agree with you, let's just drop this discussion until after the League Cup final. And hopefully never need to worry about it!
 

DoublePivot

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The Football Association is allowed one entrant being the highest placed of the four clubs finishing immediately outside the automatic European qualifying places

Someone needs to proofread over at UEFA :roll:
 

Marty

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It's not totally ludicrous, DeadwoodDem, as no-one knows at this time which League positions will get into the UEFA Cup.

Also, if we were, say, the '4th highest team outside European Qualification' and none of the others applied, we'd get the place. But if we were the '5th highest team' we wouldn't be considered even if we did apply.
 

DC_Boy

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so Inter Toto could go to 11th place? but morelikely about 8th-

I don't expect us to qualify anyway - and to think of the times we could have qualified and our board turned their noses up - never agreed with that position
 

parklane_B39-R16-S25

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While we're on the subject of winning everything and winning cups, does anyone know what will happen if we win the uefa cup, which is possible, then do we go into the european super cup with the winners of the champions league? If we do, and we win that, I think we play in the world club cup. What happens if we win that. Do we get a champions league place? Or am I talking poo?
 

Marty

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If we win the UEFA Cup we play the Super Cup.

However, the CL winner goes to the World Club Cup, not the Super Cup winner. So we will NOT be playing in the World Club Cup no matter what.

And thank God for that.

Also, winning the World Club Cup does not affect the continental tournaments anyway, as FIFA organise the World Club Cup and UEFA organise our continental competitions.
 

Yid-ol

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so Inter Toto could go to 11th place? but morelikely about 8th-

I don't expect us to qualify anyway - and to think of the times we could have qualified and our board turned their noses up - never agreed with that position

it really just depends on which teams enter, so if i am right it oculd go to anyone in the league, but the top team in the leauge who applies for it gets it
 

Marty

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it really just depends on which teams enter, so if i am right it oculd go to anyone in the league, but the top team in the leauge who applies for it gets it

It's only the four teams who finish directly below the last UEFA Cup spot who can play in the Intertoto Cup.

So if 6th place is the last UEFA Cup place, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th can play in the Intertoto. If 7th applies, that team gets the spot. If 7th doesn't apply, 8th gets in etc. All clubs finishing below 10th (in this case) who applied will not be considered.

So if none of those four clubs applied England would have no representatives in the Intertoto Cup.

EDIT: It is all very, very complicated I know. But I think we've covered just about everything now.
 

Yid-ol

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It's only the four teams who finish directly below the last UEFA Cup spot who can play in the Intertoto Cup.

So if 6th place is the last UEFA Cup place, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th can play in the Intertoto. If 7th applies, that team gets the spot. If 7th doesn't apply, 8th gets in etc. All clubs finishing below 10th (in this case) who applied will not be considered.

So if none of those four clubs applied England would have no representatives in the Intertoto Cup.

EDIT: It is all very, very complicated I know. But I think we've covered just about everything now.

wasnt the 4 places behind the UEFA cup entrance from the league in 2004-2005 season :shrug: newcastle got it being 7 places behind!
 

Marty

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They completely reorganised the Intertoto Cup recently, 06-07 was the first year with the new rules, summer 07 was the first tournament under the new rules.
 

Yid-ol

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They completely reorganised the Intertoto Cup recently, 06-07 was the first year with the new rules, summer 07 was the first tournament under the new rules.

fair enough, dont pay attention to the intertoto, so didnt even know they had changed the rules
 

parklane_B39-R16-S25

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If we win the UEFA Cup we play the Super Cup.

However, the CL winner goes to the World Club Cup, not the Super Cup winner. So we will NOT be playing in the World Club Cup no matter what.

And thank God for that.

Also, winning the World Club Cup does not affect the continental tournaments anyway, as FIFA organise the World Club Cup and UEFA organise our continental competitions.

So if we win the super cup, what do we get?
 

Has1978

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i know it´s for the greater good but... did anyone else get that kind of shameful dirty feeling that we´re talking about this competition again? or was it just me?
 
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