Ilaix Moriba

[Pebble Dash]

As a club we shouldn’t be getting our knickers in a twist over Moriba… yes he’s highly talented but his agents sound like an absolute nightmare to deal with. In addition to this we’ve also signed Sarr, another outstanding talent who will be with us next year. Both seem to play in similar positions. Moriba may go on to become a superstar but let’s not forget some other supposed talents of Barca who went on to flop - Halilovic, Bojan, Deulofeu etc etc

 

[barry]

I find it a very sad indication of the state of modern football that an 18 year old player's agent can dictate where he plays, even if it means sitting in the stands and ruining his development for a year, all for a bit paycheck.

The lack of regulation on agent fees etc is astounding, especially for younger players. So easy to getting taken advantange of.

Tbf to the agent the lads going to be set up for generations on the "promise" of future greatness.

 

[Cjh56n17]

Can't say I'm to disappointed with this not going through, maybe even a little relieved if the figures being thrown around were true. However I will be disappointed if we don't have anything else lined up

 

[spursfan77]

I find it a very sad indication of the state of modern football that an 18 year old player's agent can dictate where he plays, even if it means sitting in the stands and ruining his development for a year, all for a bit paycheck.

The lack of regulation on agent fees etc is astounding, especially for younger players. So easy to getting taken advantange of.

Levy (and it seems) Paratici aren’t the kind of men who will forget about an agent crossing them.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

I get the strong sense that the agents basically have power of attorney over his choice of employer, by being able to veto any options that don’t sufficiently grease their palms.

He hired them to help him and now they’re treating him like their slave.

That FIFA and the Governments have allowed a situation to fester whereby the forced labour of an 18 year old boy by has become legally enforceable in 2021 is a disgrace.

This wouldn’t happen in any other industry.

 

[Yid-ol]

I am devastated that we are missing out on a player that I had never heard of before last Friday.

Give it an hour, and I am sure we will be linked to another one most us don't know again!

 

[Chirpystheman]

?‍ Nobody paid them 100k a week when they left England tho did they?

But neither of them was already on 3m a year. If they were you could bet your life on it that it would have been a payrise to leave. Moriba is reportedly on 3m a year. So how do you think spurs incentvise him to leave barca and come to us this summer when in a year he can go wherever he likes. For decades we moaned about not paying the wages and in the last few not signing talented youngsters and taking risks. We are now potnetially signing a kid from Barcelona who by all accounts they want to keep and but for their financial mess would be offering him more money. Take Hudson-odoi he was in a very similar situation couple years back. Wanted big money without hardly ever playing. Bayern wanted him. Chelsea refused and then offered him 120k. He's a talent and stagnating at Chelsea but if anyone wanted to buy him tomorrow you are looking at 50m player. The only downside to this is if he comes in and totally flops. And even then. There will be a club in Spain that would belly gin for 15-20m purely because of the barca history.

 

[Timberwolf]

I was never convinced of his impending greatness so I ain't too fussed , especially considering the money needed to bring him here. I'll keep an eye on the lad to see how he develops.

Yeah he does look very talented, but from what I've seen Sarr is the more striking player of the two and the one I'd prefer (and I'm not just saying that because we've signed him). Also has a lot less baggage.

Wouldn't be surprised if Iliax turns out to be an absolute mega-star, but would be equally unsurprised if he's the next in a long line of talented Barca youth players that went on to have middling careers.

Maybe I'm being presumptuous, but is he incredible on Football Manager or something? There seem to be an unusually large number of people on here that are extraordinarily excited about an 18 year old with 14 senior appearances - I didn't realise that many people watched ever Barca match and closely followed Barca's youth teams. I've watched a bunch of videos showing his every touch in the games he played for Barca (I know, I know - but how else are most of us meant to judge a player we're linked to?) and while he looks technically good, with the occasional very nice flourish, I certainly wasn't blown away.

The potential is there, sure, but the amount of hype seems a bit much to me at this stage.

 

[barry]

I get the strong sense that the agents basically have power of attorney over him choosing where he wants to work, by being able to veto any options that don’t sufficiently grease their palms.

He hired them to help him and now they’re treating him like their slave.

That FIFA and the Governments have allowed a situation to fester whereby the forced labour of an 18 year old boy by has become legally enforceable in 2021 is a disgrace.

This wouldn’t happen in any other industry.

That's a leap buddy. We know nothing. Maybe RBL have guaranteed him play time, and offered him a huge wage.

 

[WorthATry]

Disappointing, but honestly, this whole thing has felt fishy from the start

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

I find it a very sad indication of the state of modern football that an 18 year old player's agent can dictate where he plays, even if it means sitting in the stands and ruining his development for a year, all for a bit paycheck.

The lack of regulation on agent fees etc is astounding, especially for younger players. So easy to getting taken advantange of.

I feel the player is also complicit at the end of the day .... the fact he is at BARCA.. regardless of their recent financial debacle, its still BARCA , he is 18 and on a very decent wage right now anyway, it seemed he had a very good path to the BARCA first team and was being blooded in last season to make the transition to first team proper, there is some serious issues here. The old adage of the saying " bullet dodged" comes to mind.

 

[Adam Zampa]

As long as he still follows London Luxury Transport, there's a chance.

Btw that London Luxury Transport insta doesn't seem to have much luxury, it's more the kinda stuff I'd imagine a German family of 8 owning

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

That's a leap buddy. We know nothing. Maybe RBL have guaranteed him play time, and offered him a huge wage.

You could well be right but what I’ve read about the agency involved sounds very shady.

 

[barry]

Yeah he does look very talented, but from what I've seen Sarr is the more striking player of the two and the one I'd prefer (and I'm not just saying that because we've signed him). Also has a lot less baggage.

Wouldn't be surprised if Iliax turns out to be an absolute mega-star, but would be equally unsurprised if he's the next in a long line of talented Barca youth players that went on to have middling careers.

Maybe I'm being presumptuous, but is he incredible on Football Manager or something? There seem to be an unusually large number of people on here that are extraordinarily excited about an 18 year old with 14 senior appearances. I've watched a bunch of videos showing his every touch in the games he played for Barca and while he looks technically good, with the occasional very nice flourish, I certainly wasn't blown away. I didn't realise that many people watched ever Barca match and closely followed Barca's youth teams.

The potential is there, sure, but the amount of hype seems a bit much to me at this stage.

I'm no scout, and haven't watched him extensively but I wasn't even impressed by his admittedly limited highlights. He'll probably be a megastar now.

 

[barry]

You could well be right but what I’ve read about the agency involved sounds very shady.

True.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Still hopes to there are more twists on this back into our favour, he does seem very highly rated. However, if he goes to RBL I’ll be surprised they have matched out bid to Barca abs still maintained the agents fees. That seemed to be loaded higher toward the agent based on no fee next year. If they have to fund a €20m transfer you’d assume that will take a hefty chunk out of the planned pool of cash for agents fees if on a free.
Anyhow, he is/was a nice to have, not a summer deal breaker. Sarr looks to have equal potential and seems to have less baggage, plus I’ve been impressed with Gil.
This saga may yet swing back and forth if RBL don't, or won’t, agree to Barca’s fee.

 

[Frank Blank]

.....but let’s not forget some other supposed talents of Barca who went on to flop - Halilovic, Bojan, Deulofeu etc etc

Just signed a one year deal with Reading in what would be his tenth club.

 

[Dean]

Impossible to know what's true and what's not, but surely if he does not want to join Leipzig he just does not sign the contract. It's a shame that the agents have got so much control over the player, it must be contractual otherwise free will would prevail.

If I were a footballer and had a lot of free time on my hands, I would make it my personal, career-defining endeavour to earn a business degree and make my own choices.

 

[daveduvet]

Disappointing, but honestly, this whole thing has felt fishy from the start

Thanks for letting minnow your thoughts. I can’t help the craytive fish puns …

 

[Crowedem]

Yeah he does look very talented, but from what I've seen Sarr is the more striking player of the two and the one I'd prefer (and I'm not just saying that because we've signed him). Also has a lot less baggage.

Wouldn't be surprised if Iliax turns out to be an absolute mega-star, but would be equally unsurprised if he's the next in a long line of talented Barca youth players that went on to have middling careers.

Maybe I'm being presumptuous, but is he incredible on Football Manager or something? There seem to be an unusually large number of people on here that are extraordinarily excited about an 18 year old with 14 senior appearances - I didn't realise that many people watched ever Barca match and closely followed Barca's youth teams. I've watched a bunch of videos showing his every touch in the games he played for Barca (I know, I know - but how else are most of us meant to judge a player we're linked to?) and while he looks technically good, with the occasional very nice flourish, I certainly wasn't blown away.

The potential is there, sure, but the amount of hype seems a bit much to me at this stage.

You’re 100% right btw - he’s incredible on FM21 and becomes one of (if not the) worlds best players. I presume this is what people are basing it on. To be fair to FM they do often call it well (I remember aguero being very good on it before he was even well known at Atletico) but they also have their fair share of misjudgements.

I like us buying for the future but with Sarr and Gil in the bag, I do feel we need someone a bit older/more established for central midfield this season