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Four Spurs players facing 10-day hotel quarantine after international break

Phil_2.0

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This is an outrageous situation to be in. I'm angry at the club and the players, the club for not being able to force the players into staying and for the players for putting our good start to the season and big games in jeopardy.
 

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YB123

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I just cant begrudge any player refusing to represent their national team. Its the biggest honour you can receive.
 

Coolbury

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At least the players will be in sunny Croatia not stuck in a hotel and some lucky member of the coaching staff will get a nice 10 day break in the sun with them keeping them fit.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Suspended for first game, not playing 3rd game and with a slight injury. I know the 2nd game is the big one against Brazil but seems like a lot of time to miss for one game.
 

cockerel downunder

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Hopefully they will find a better solution for future international breaks.

it’s must feel good for the spurs players though knowing the club have their back. Sounds like the Brazilians are quite unhappy at being forced to miss competitive games and could cause a rift at those clubs.

Thiago Silva’s handcuffs symbol is a fairly dramatic gesture, hard to see players who feel that way giving 110% for their club. Plus if Brazil lose to Argentina as a result it will be a big deal for them back home, imagine how our media would react if foreign clubs held our players hostage and we lost to Germany in a competitive game!!

could end up being a master stroke by spurs with highly motivated players and other clubs with important players holding a grudge. Or we’ll lose to palace and it will be a disaster ;-)
 
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cwy21

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Hopefully for us by November Argentina is in a position where they have almost secured qualification.
 

Coolbury

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Question is why have Spurs & Villa allowed players to go when many others have not travelled. The response of FIFA to complaints by Chile etc that their players have not travelled will be interesting, will FIFA take action or back down , if they do nothing sets a precedent for the future where clubs might refuse to release players for internationals. Balls in your court FIFA.
 
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panoma

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I just cant begrudge any player refusing to represent their national team. Its the biggest honour you can receive.

If only this was a one time thing. Sadly, the SA region have a packed schedule as they have postponed previous games.

If nothing changes, these player will barely feature for their clubs in 2021. That is a big problem when clubs rely on these players, and pay their wages.

A club like Villa not having their star goalkeeper (Martinez) or record signing (Buendia) for such a big part is the season is a problem imo.
 

king_yid

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Joke is Argentina has a tenth of the cases we do and the entire adult population has had its first vaccine and around 50% with its second. Yet it is still on the red list, meaning you have to stay in a gov hotel for thousands.

I say go because the more pressure to get the government stop monetising this pandemic the better!
 

Saoirse

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Joke is Argentina has a tenth of the cases we do and the entire adult population has had its first vaccine and around 50% with its second. Yet it is still on the red list, meaning you have to stay in a gov hotel for thousands.

I say go because the more pressure to get the government stop monetising this pandemic the better!
I'm as far from a fan of this government as it's possible to get. But the idea that they're making significant money from a tiny number of people flying from red list countries into quarantine hotels with small profit margins just isn't right. It's about the presence of the Brazilian variant, that's all.
 

king_yid

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I'm as far from a fan of this government as it's possible to get. But the idea that they're making significant money from a tiny number of people flying from red list countries into quarantine hotels with small profit margins just isn't right. It's about the presence of the Brazilian variant, that's all.
£230 per night, I mean I know that includes a transfer, test and food but come on. Someone is making money from it do you not think?

Up to the beginning of August 123,000 people have been through the hotel quarantine process, hardly a tiny number. To put that into context if a 10% profit(£225 out of the £2250) is made that is just over £27.5m, a not so insignificant amount.

I hear what you are saying with the variants but when is this going to end. I haven't seen my girlfriend, dog or friends in Argentina for almost 18 months now. Soon I will be allowed to enter the country but will then be forced through the process upon my return to the UK.

I will caveat this with post with the fact that I have avoided getting covid by following all rules and taking extra precautions myself and continue to do so.

@Saoirse taking this to the covid thread bud before we blow this one up!
 
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Westmorlandspur

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So what would have happened if an English club was drawn in the same group as Besiktas in the champ lge.
Turkey still on the red list. Do we believe that the whole playing staff of that club would have 10 days quarantine.
I thought there were different rules for elite sport.
 

tommo84

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If only this was a one time thing. Sadly, the SA region have a packed schedule as they have postponed previous games.

If nothing changes, these player will barely feature for their clubs in 2021. That is a big problem when clubs rely on these players, and pay their wages.

A club like Villa not having their star goalkeeper (Martinez) or record signing (Buendia) for such a big part is the season is a problem imo.

I suspect it will be a one time only thing in so far as one of two scenarios will play out:

a) Spurs and Villa are effectively penalised for supporting their SA players while no action is taken by FIFA against the rest of the EPL. This would surely cause Spurs and Villa to change their stance for the next international break (especially if the Argentina coach reneges on the agreement those clubs thought was in place).

b) FIFA do take action against those clubs who haven’t released players by suspending them and that forces the government’s hand when the EPL expresses the potential damage to the EPL’s brand by missing so many big stars throughout the season.

Whatever scenario plays out, I’m annoyed at Spurs for not standing by the decision taken by the EPL as a whole. We’ve shot ourselves in the foot and it’s likely to derail our good start to the season.
 

panoma

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The 5-day ban that the Brazilian FA is reportedly requesting would still be a MUCH better situation than we'll be in with our plays.

5 days / 1 match vs. 10 days / 3 matches :mad:

Not to mention the fitness side. After 10 days at a hotel it will take a little additional time to get up to the required fitness level. Even with a ban, players can still train.
 

Neon_Knight_

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I'm as far from a fan of this government as it's possible to get. But the idea that they're making significant money from a tiny number of people flying from red list countries into quarantine hotels with small profit margins just isn't right. It's about the presence of the Brazilian variant, that's all.
Any profit made from quarantine hotels is negligible compared to the negative economic implications of red listing a country. I think economics has significantly influenced our government's decisions on which countries are red/amber (plus influenced the alleviation of restrictions on amber countries).
For example, red listing the US or China would cost our economy far more than red listing Argentina or Brazil. Consideration was given to creating a new "amber plus" rating specifically for France, to avoid red listing them when all the data suggested they should be red...then they ended up as amber.
 
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