Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[easley91]

It's not the fan base as a whole that are booing and wanting Conte to be sacked

It's a tiny minority

You make it sound as if it's all of us, which it plainly is not

You cannot please all of the people all of the time, some will have a different point of view, that's normal and that's life

It's the same at every club

It's a very vocal minority though. Vocal enough that even Kane has spoken about it now and others are now realising what I have seen for a while. This fanbase has become toxic and I can't even fathom a legitimate reason as to why?

I see so much hatred towards our own players. Many commented on Richarlison's world cup announcement video on twitter by mentioning Emerson. Yes they made it about another player and his apparent lack of ability.

The booing at half time is utterly ridiculous and redundant. You're there to support the team, not get on their backs.

I'm sorry but this fanbase is getting ridiculous these days. They refuse to listen to what Conte says and instead say "you can't always believe what he says". They don't like when he starts certain players, even if he gives them justifiable reason to such as injuries or they're not up to scratch tactically at the moment, they forget we're now at the end of a packed first half of the season where we are top 4 and topped our UCL group. They bemoan the lineup and write off games before they even start. They write off signings before they have played.

This is an over the top entitled fanbase now. Hate to say it. But it is.

 

[Timberwolf]

I think he could be here for another 3-4 seasons if we back him. We are the most similar in set-up to when he was at Juve with Paratici and he did 3 season there. As his assistant said today he and conte don’t actively look to leave clubs they’ve left for changes in circumstances… Chelsea was/is a circus managerial merry-go-round and Inter we’re in financial trouble. I think given the Paratici relationship and our increasing funding Conte could well stick around to build something here, only things possibly stopping that would be if Levy went back on any promises and/or if Conte missed his family too much and wanted to move back to Juve/Italy.

We shall see but I think there is a reasonable chance he could stay with us for a few years ??

I think another 3-4 seasons is probably a push, but I certainly think it's possible he stays for 3+ seasons overall and doesn't continue his recent trend of doing just 2 years and leaving.

I'm positive he would've been happy to stay at Inter longer if their owners hadn't started selling all their best players and not reinvesting the money.

As you say, if we don't screw him over and we back him in the market, I think he'll be fine to do another season or two (although something tells me that's as far as it will go).

 

[TommyW]

It's not the fan base as a whole that are booing and wanting Conte to be sacked

It's a tiny minority

You make it sound as if it's all of us, which it plainly is not

You cannot please all of the people all of the time, some will have a different point of view, that's normal and that's life

It's the same at every club

It's a tiny minority that want him out, but the atmosphere at the stadium has been pretty toxic in the games I've been to this season. Against Newcastle I couldn't believe how quiet it was before the game - I didn't hear a single chant or "COME ON YOU SPURS" on my 20 minute walk to the stadium. Was if noone really wanted to be there

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

It's a very vocal minority though. Vocal enough that even Kane has spoken about it now and others are now realising what I have seen for a while. This fanbase has become toxic and I can't even fathom a legitimate reason as to why?

I see so much hatred towards our own players. Many commented on Richarlison's world cup announcement video on twitter by mentioning Emerson. Yes they made it about another player and his apparent lack of ability.

The booing at half time is utterly ridiculous and redundant. You're there to support the team, not get on their backs.

I'm sorry but this fanbase is getting ridiculous these days. They refuse to listen to what Conte says and instead say "you can't always believe what he says". They don't like when he starts certain players, even if he gives them justifiable reason to such as injuries or they're not up to scratch tactically at the moment, they forget we're now at the end of a packed first half of the season where we are top 4 and topped our UCL group. They bemoan the lineup and write off games before they even start. They write off signings before they have played.

This is an over the top entitled fanbase now. Hate to say it. But it is.

This is 100% true.

The world and society have become so accustomed to instant gratification that they cannot enjoy something when they have to wait for it.

Everything needs to happen now or it's not good enough.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

The booing is a disgrace and the only way it’s acceptable is when you’re sending a clear message to the owners, officials or very occasionally if the team is clearly not putting in any effort.

The booing at our ground recently is a joke. We’re competing in the CL, we’re in the top 4 and competing with top clubs.

Sure we might have grievances and want to improve but you don’t boo because we’re losing at half time, it’s bloody pathetic and I’d happily lamp someone who I see doing it. Proper moronic behaviour.

It achieves nothing, it only creates separation and distance between the manager/players and the fans when what we need is togetherness.

Yes we pay a lot of money but it’s not as if the players aren’t trying. Voice your displeasure in the pub, on a forum fine but at the ground get behind the team and try to help!

Modern day support is pathetic. Lose a game, lose a half even and the crowd turns despite the club being in the

The crowd can be the 12th man and it’s what we should be doing, even more so when we’re losing!

I know that our fans are frustrated with a lack of silverware but we can’t let that turn us in to entitled and fickle fans. We need to stay behind the club and be what Spurs can be at our best, proper support!

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

The booing is a disgrace and the only way it’s acceptable is when you’re sending a clear message to the owners, officials or very occasionally if the team is clearly not putting in any effort.

The booing at our ground recently is a joke. We’re competing in the CL, we’re in the top 4 and competing with top clubs.

Sure we might have grievances and want to improve but you don’t boo because we’re losing at half time, it’s bloody pathetic and I’d happily lamp someone who I see doing it. Proper moronic behaviour.

It achieves nothing, it only creates separation and distance between the manager/players and the fans when what we need is togetherness.

Yes we pay a lot of money but it’s not as if the players aren’t trying. Voice your displeasure in the pub, on a forum fine but at the ground get behind the team and try to help!

Modern day support is pathetic. Lose a game, lose a half even and the crowd turns despite the club being in the

The crowd can be the 12th man and it’s what we should be doing, even more so when we’re losing!

I know that our fans are frustrated with a lack of silverware but we can’t let that turn us in to entitled and fickle fans. We need to stay behind the club and be what Spurs can be at our best, proper support!

I like that you mentioned this.

Every single fan needs to remember that when you buy that expensive ticket, it is and always will be a CHOICE.

Do not spend that money and expect something in return that matches your expectations. What you get is what you get.

Just because you spent money, it does not entitle you to a certain level of sporting performance, you have paid to be a supporter and nothing more.

You are entitled to the square root of fuck all other than a seat to sit in or a place to stand.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I like that you mentioned this.

Every single fan needs to remember that when you buy that expensive ticket, it is and always will be a CHOICE.

Do not spend that money and expect something in return that matches your expectations. What you get is what you get.

Just because you spent money, it does not entitle you to a certain level of sporting performance, you have paid to be a supporter and nothing more.

You are entitled to the square root of fuck all other than a seat to sit in or a place to stand.

This part in bold is spot on!

We are supporters of the club! I didn’t choose to support Spurs because they win things and I’m not a glory hunter. I support Spurs because they are my team, it’s in my blood and I love them!

People that are not interested in supporting the club and just want silverware at any cost chose the wrong team and should follow City or the like.

The clue is in the name ‘supporter’. We are not entitled to any success, no one just deserves success because they pay money. We all HOPE for success and strive for it but we should be there through thick and thin getting behind the team and supporting the club.

That’s not to say we can’t criticise on forums etc and give our opinions. But at the game, at matches, we should be getting behind the club and striving to achieve organic success together!

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

From reading this thread, I am starting to wonder if the problem with Spurs is the fan base…. It seems we are the only ones trying to break something that is in progression and showing clear Positive signs. Not even Conte is having an emotional wobble and seems to relatively happy at Spurs and where it is going.

It is us fans that are the consistent, its what other fans comment on why they dislike us (Our delusion of grandeur). Even Souness is highlighting the negative and anit support in big games…. Booing at halftime instead of driving them on….. and calling for a great manager to be sacked because a few results aren’t going our way while we have countless injuries…. So soon as it wobbles no matter how great a player or manager is we tend to destroy it. Not all of us but enough that it resonates to the board, levy, the manager and the players…..

I still don't think I have seen many call for his sacking.

There are many underwhelmed and disappointed with the perceived level of progress and performances. (And to be fair to those critics - I actually find it strange if anyone says they have enjoyed watching us play this season).

I agree about the booing though - a half time boo from your 'supporters' should be reserved for special cases of awfulness, or more specifically when it appears as if the team don't give a shit regarding their application and attitude.

 

[JCRD]

I think booing itself is an immature sound - boooooo... like a grown adult boooing... I hate booing - its the act of booing - even booing opposition or whatever, its just the act.

I dont mind if someone criticises the team, and dont like it when people are shutting others down for criticising, its booing that I find strange - mate youre a 45 yr old booing, making a funny sound.

 

[chas vs dave]

The booing is a disgrace and the only way it’s acceptable is when you’re sending a clear message to the owners, officials or very occasionally if the team is clearly not putting in any effort.

The booing at our ground recently is a joke. We’re competing in the CL, we’re in the top 4 and competing with top clubs.

Sure we might have grievances and want to improve but you don’t boo because we’re losing at half time, it’s bloody pathetic and I’d happily lamp someone who I see doing it. Proper moronic behaviour.

It achieves nothing, it only creates separation and distance between the manager/players and the fans when what we need is togetherness.

Yes we pay a lot of money but it’s not as if the players aren’t trying. Voice your displeasure in the pub, on a forum fine but at the ground get behind the team and try to help!

Modern day support is pathetic. Lose a game, lose a half even and the crowd turns despite the club being in the

The crowd can be the 12th man and it’s what we should be doing, even more so when we’re losing!

I know that our fans are frustrated with a lack of silverware but we can’t let that turn us in to entitled and fickle fans. We need to stay behind the club and be what Spurs can be at our best, proper support!

Been going to spurs for 25 years (st holder)

I may booed less than 10 times since going.

I don't see how it achieves anything positive. ?

 

[wadewill]

It's not the fan base as a whole that are booing and wanting Conte to be sacked

It's a tiny minority

You make it sound as if it's all of us, which it plainly is not

You cannot please all of the people all of the time, some will have a different point of view, that's normal and that's life

It's the same at every club

It's more than a tiny minority, you can clearly hear it in the stadium more than it shows on TV.

Its utterly embarrassing

 

[PCozzie]

.....Not even Conte is having an emotional wobble and seems to relatively happy at Spurs and where it is going.

I think this is fairly important and hints at what Conte is expecting, and where he assesses we are on the 'journey' (ugh).

If he was thinking we'd be challenging for trophies right now he'd be pretty unhappy and making a lot of negative noises. But if he's planning for maybe a three or four year project he'd be looking at where we are now and the half a dozen or so current players that he expects to be here at the end of that period and be calm, knowing that if he's backed we will reach somewhere near the target.

He doesn't seem impatient, and for a man who evidently doesn't hide his emotions that seems like a good sign to me.

 

[jurgen11]

Who was the last player to confirm his love for the club , I mean truly Spurs through and through - VDV ? Defoe ? King? I cant remember too many of the recent footballers proclaiming their devotion. Conte even came out a week or so ago and claimed the club was becoming his family and still he is questioned constantly

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

It's not the fan base as a whole that are booing and wanting Conte to be sacked

It's a tiny minority

You make it sound as if it's all of us, which it plainly is not

You cannot please all of the people all of the time, some will have a different point of view, that's normal and that's life

It's the same at every club

It of course is not the whole fan base as I did state in my comment but the boos around at halftime versus Liverpool suggest its not a minority. We are well known for getting disgruntled and booing early by pundits and other fans…. Once the mood shifts, negativity hits and things tend to spiral…..

 

[SpartanSpur]

It's a very vocal minority though. Vocal enough that even Kane has spoken about it now and others are now realising what I have seen for a while. This fanbase has become toxic and I can't even fathom a legitimate reason as to why?

I see so much hatred towards our own players. Many commented on Richarlison's world cup announcement video on twitter by mentioning Emerson. Yes they made it about another player and his apparent lack of ability.

The booing at half time is utterly ridiculous and redundant. You're there to support the team, not get on their backs.

I'm sorry but this fanbase is getting ridiculous these days. They refuse to listen to what Conte says and instead say "you can't always believe what he says". They don't like when he starts certain players, even if he gives them justifiable reason to such as injuries or they're not up to scratch tactically at the moment, they forget we're now at the end of a packed first half of the season where we are top 4 and topped our UCL group. They bemoan the lineup and write off games before they even start. They write off signings before they have played.

This is an over the top entitled fanbase now. Hate to say it. But it is.

People need to draw a line under the past pre-Conte, the current issues stem as much from what has come before. Granted we've been a tough watch at times this season but I'm sure most of it is because of the left over baggage from the Jose/Nuno days.

Unfortunately as a club we've had to endure a very successful spell of very near misses with no real payoff. We then went through a very painful spell playing largely terribly for the best part of 2 years, losing a beloved manager, hiring the divisive Jose (who had a couple of decent spells) and the patsy in Nuno. Due to the loss of our Belgian contingent we completely lost the ability to control any game in midfield. We have started to improve now

Sometimes the booing can work, personally I think the reaction to the famous Moura/Bergwijn sub expedited the end of Nuno and Levy pushing the boat out for Conte. I was there and I've never heard anything like it. It can also be counter productive, and it seems we've reached this point now. We might just have to suck it up for a fanbase now for the good of the team, or 'suffer' as Conte likes to say.

Hopefully the crowd can give the team a good send off (and the team a good performance) on Saturday and everyone goes away to the WC break happy and energised.

I don't boo personally but I do understand the pent up frustration in the fanbase (I've been infuriated this season by the failure to do the basics from front to back all season - from silly defensive errors to lax passes and touches), especially with the ridiculous costs involved during a cost-of-living crisis. I do think we probably need to be careful right now, we don't want to turn the manager and team against us, despite the struggles this season I fully believe the manager and players are together and are committed to the project (some players just aren't quite up to it, and others are struggling for form and confidence). We need to be patient and do our best to back the team, if we do that then it'll come good under Conte, I'm sure of it.

 

[SpartanSpur]

It of course is not the whole fan base as I did state in my comment but the boos around at halftime versus Liverpool suggest its not a minority. We are well known for getting disgruntled and booing early by pundits and other fans…. Once the mood shifts, negativity hits and things tend to spiral…..

The media know this too and seem very keen to make it into a narrative unfortunately.

 

[mil1lion]

Who was the last player to confirm his love for the club , I mean truly Spurs through and through - VDV ? Defoe ? King? I cant remember too many of the recent footballers proclaiming their devotion. Conte even came out a week or so ago and claimed the club was becoming his family and still he is questioned constantly

We have a number of players that have been around the club a long time. Surely that's enough? Lloris, Dier, Davies, Sanchez, Son, Kane must love the club to have been here this long. Unless you're expecting a Cockerell tattoo and them to sing their love for Spurs at every opportunity. I don't think the issue is the commitment, even Winks I think really wanted to be great for us. Some of them are just not good enough. I don't see lack of commitment but just lack of quality in areas. That for me makes the booing worse because they're working hard which is what a fan insists on. I could understand it if they stop running.

 

[PLTuck]

It's a very vocal minority though. Vocal enough that even Kane has spoken about it now and others are now realising what I have seen for a while. This fanbase has become toxic and I can't even fathom a legitimate reason as to why?

I see so much hatred towards our own players. Many commented on Richarlison's world cup announcement video on twitter by mentioning Emerson. Yes they made it about another player and his apparent lack of ability.

The booing at half time is utterly ridiculous and redundant. You're there to support the team, not get on their backs.

I'm sorry but this fanbase is getting ridiculous these days. They refuse to listen to what Conte says and instead say "you can't always believe what he says". They don't like when he starts certain players, even if he gives them justifiable reason to such as injuries or they're not up to scratch tactically at the moment, they forget we're now at the end of a packed first half of the season where we are top 4 and topped our UCL group. They bemoan the lineup and write off games before they even start. They write off signings before they have played.

This is an over the top entitled fanbase now. Hate to say it. But it is.

The reaction to Kulusevski after his first 20 minutes of playing for us sums up this vocal minority of our fanbase.

 

[Bighec]

I wasn’t at the game but is it possible that the boos were more directed at the terrible refereeing?

 

[Karol]

It's more than a tiny minority, you can clearly hear it in the stadium more than it shows on TV.

Its utterly embarrassing

I take fan base to mean our entire support, everywhere

Not just in the stadium