Does Dawson....

[DOX]

Definite yes, in terms of attitude, club loyalty, courage and sheer chutzpah. In terms of ability, NO!

 

[biscuit]

No.
Ability is the foundation of respect and he isn't one of our best players.
He will get more of that from players and fans alike at a club whose ambitions aren't ours.

Really? I think you must have dropped your moral compass and put a dent in it, mate.

 

[Revan1882]

For he deserves to be playing in a system that doesn't play such a high line, the guy can't play that way and it is costing us big time. I do like the guy, but unless that changes I don't think we should be playing him.

I think that fact it played his way back into the team shows how much he cares and I don't play that down at all, as that must of been incredible difficult. I don't think he should get so much hate aimed at him by some, but I do understand people not being happy with the way he plays. Yet for me it is all about playing to his strength and that means not playing that incredibly high line.

 

[Japhet]

He always gives 100% and never backs down from any challenge and yet gets more stick than plenty of players who go missing, chicken out and look like they can't be arsed some of the time. He's been exposed by the 'high line' tactics and the failure of others to put pressure on the ball. He's a whipping boy for disappointed fans, but I guarantee that none are more disappointed than he is when we cock up.

P.S. There's a few times we could have done with the previous owner of the 'whipping boy' tag this season. Scott Parker.

 

[Shadydan]

It may sound strange but I wish he was a bit more passionate.
That's because I think he has everything that John Terry has but for that extra bit of passion that means Terry's able to dig down deep and do the dirty things, if necessary.
What I mean is, if you ask around any football supporters, I bet they'd all say Dawson was a top bloke. Ask them about Terry, regardless of his dodgy off field antics, and I bet you'd get a very different answer. Yet, ask them honestly, who they'd rather have had in their team for the last 10 years and I bet the vast majority would plump for Terry.

That's not showing passion, that's being a ****.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Oh dear, I see its going on here as well. I'm too lazy to paste my post from the other thread in here but it could just as well be in here too.

 

[Yid-ol]

That wouldn't surprise me one bit. Ironic how a player who pretty much gets roundly schlagged on here showing that he's actually one of those who cares most. He might not be the best defender around ability wise but sometimes other qualities are just as important and he deserves a bit more respect than comments like 'fuck off out of my club' etc etc

I was in both threads so thought I would copy it over.

Not the most gifted, but probably the one that gives a damn about the club most. To me you could be the best player in the world, but if you don't give a damn about the club, you wont perform to the best of your abilities.

Dawson deserves more respect as A&C has said.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I was in both threads so thought I would copy it over.

Not the most gifted, but probably the one that gives a damn about the club most. To me you could be the best player in the world, but if you don't give a damn about the club, you wont perform to the best of your abilities.

Dawson deserves more respect as A&C has said.

Thanks, but that wasn't the post I was referring to

 

[Gassin's finest]

I get tired of this. Season after season he's at the heart of our defence making clearance after clearance, winning high ball after high ball, taking massive knocks and suffering long term injuries that a lot of players couldn't come back from and continue at that high impact level he has. I can't remember the times he's been part of defences that have gone on record defensive streaks and clean sheets (and yes, when Ledley was frequently not playing). And every season we get this shit. Every team needs that lion heartbeat in the centre of defence, the one who'll shout at players, give them encouragement, who'll lead by example in effort, attitude and passion. Someone who'll get those last minute blocks in and challenge for header after header and still get up for corners and free kicks. And yes everyone of those players are limited footballers... Carragher, Dunne, Terry, Pallister, Adams... hell even Charlton. Dawson's not in that bracket naturally, but he is in that mould. If he left then I'd see us struggle to get better like that. Careful what you wish for and all that.

 

[Yid-ol]

Thanks, but that wasn't the post I was referring to

Meh! well I read a post about dawson from you and then seen that, I guess 2 and 2 doesn't make 4

still relevant for here anyway just act like it was meant to be here... play it cool!

 

[matty182]

Imagine how badly Jamie Carragher's reputation would have fared if someone at Liverpool had decided he was the man to build a high line defence around.

But he could've used his superpower which involves speaking really loud and at an even higher pitch which would've had everyone on the floor holding their ears

 

[Pat Rice Spurs fan]

That's not showing passion, that's being a ****.

Maybe so, but if Daws was able to do that, I think he'd be a far better footballer and far more appreciated by Spurs fans

 

[spursbri111]

How about Vert has been injured for weeks and looks like he's disheartened with the team. You can question his desire but not his ability. Do you see Dawson being linked with Barcelona? Maybe your getting confused with Barnsley?

thats even worse. If you dont have as much abikity but give your all then you cant ask anymore of a player. Theres no excuse for having ability but not being bothered to use it because you disheatened

 

[allatsea]

Dawson has been found wanting this season and at times really bad but of all the centre backs at the club he is the only one we can rely on.
Kaboul and Vlad are always injured while verts only plays well when he fancies it so it's no wonder our defence is shit
The centre back position at the club has been a problem for a long while now there is never continuity or cohesion cos someone is always injured it seems.
I don't hold out any hope that whoever comes in will be able to sort it as we need 2/3 replacements and Levy won't buy that quite literally so Dawson it is then.

This seems fair to me. He clearly has his shortcomings, and he does seem to be more exposed these days, but there are many matches in the PL when a central defender of his type is invaluable. He deserves to be part of our squad of 4 central defenders.

 

[Breezer]

thats even worse. If you dont have as much abikity but give your all then you cant ask anymore of a player. Theres no excuse for having ability but not being bothered to use it because you disheatened

I don't disagree. Vert needs a good kick up the ass!

 

[Mr Pink]

Maybe next time just make a big poster declaring your love for Dawson and tape it to your cousins TV instead of starting the millionth "Dawson is a bit shit but he's a great bloke" thread on here ?

Again apologies for sounding unreasonable with this.

 

[dynamoSpurs]

He deserves respect for continuing to walk out on to the pitch with a Spurs shirt on week in, week out.

Big heart, small skill. Quicker we replace with quality (same goes for Walker and Norton), quicker we'll be on our way.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Dawson, like Lennon, has staved off challenges for his position constantly since he joined Spurs. He's been demoted and come back as first choice on more than one occasion. Some of that is luck (injuries to Woodgate and Kaboul), but the fact that several managers haven't been found a preferable option to them either means they're all complete idiots, or that Dawson has some ability.

He is limited. He is slow on the turn (though, no more so than Vertonghen), his distribution can be thoughtless at times (though when those passes come off they're actually quite good) and, most frustratingly for someone of his experience, he over commits prematurely to challenges both in the air and on the ground, which can expose us. He is also (admittedly decreasingly) very good in the air, very strong in the challenge and takes responsibility, always fighting and making a lot of vital challenges at the death.

Kaboul is better, but injured all the time. Vertonghen when he gives a shit is better, but he seems to have lost his mojo from last season (where, final day, he seemed more depressed than anyone). Chiriches is very talented but very inconsistent still. Yes, criticise Dawson for making mistakes and poor decisions, but do it within reason, and don't do it while ignoring his qualities or the faults of others.

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

when you don't have a Jenas to blame you need a Dawson!!

the guy would run through walls for the shirt, many more can you pick out from the squad that would do that?

 

[Yid-ol]

when you don't have a Jenas to blame you need a Dawson!!

the guy would run through walls for the shirt, many more can pick out from the squad that would do that?

Sandro though I am sure he wouldn't have to run through the wall.... it would just crumble in front of him!