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Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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This piece of news made laugh...

With the vacant technical director role expected to be filled by Edu after he parts with Brazil following Copa Americawhich ends after pre-season begins – Arsenal are being led by a five-man band with no obvious frontman. It is little wonder they are being heckled off the stage by a disgruntled support.

Highlights exactly how much of a mess they are in. Everything in this article explains how one minute they've apparently 'agreed terms' with one player only for it to never materialise and another 'story' break out. Could one of those involved be sounding out a player getting them on board only for the others to renege on the deal?

Just look at AFTV transfer rumours - it's a different player every couple of days. I laugh at how excited they seem to get with these links, as they don't really seem to see how much of a mess they are in. There is no focused strategy, no synergy, no main influencer or general, football tells you that this very rarely works out for the best. Ha!

They finished 1 point behind us last season.
 

sparx100

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They finished 1 point behind us last season.

I agree. We have got bragging rights absolutely and get the lucrative draw of the champions league next season, but the table shows that there was 1 point difference between the team's performances over the season.

We lost 3 more games in the league than them and United, and we lost just as many games as Wolves. 13 games out of 38 we lost. More than a third.

Arsenal have a big rebuilding job. They need a new defence (they conceded 51 in the league compared to our 39 - Newcastle, Wolves, Everton and Leicester conceded fewer than Arsenal) and a number of midfielders, but 1 point is the difference.

Does that mean we need to rebuild? Maybe not as much but most people agree we need a new RB, centre back should Toby leave (likely), 2 central midfielders, a replacement for Eriksen and another option up top, so that's 6 players to increase our chances of improving on our points tally from last season

Overall our squad is better than theirs, but the summer transfer window is going to be key - these things turn very quickly and with the very small margin between the teams last season, the purchases are going to be pivotal to who gets bragging rights next season. I just hope it continues to be us.
 

hellava_tough

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They finished 1 point behind us last season.

I agree. We have got bragging rights absolutely and get the lucrative draw of the champions league next season, but the table shows that there was 1 point difference between the team's performances over the season.

We lost 3 more games in the league than them and United, and we lost just as many games as Wolves. 13 games out of 38 we lost. More than a third.

Arsenal have a big rebuilding job. They need a new defence (they conceded 51 in the league compared to our 39 - Newcastle, Wolves, Everton and Leicester conceded fewer than Arsenal) and a number of midfielders, but 1 point is the difference.

Does that mean we need to rebuild? Maybe not as much but most people agree we need a new RB, centre back should Toby leave (likely), 2 central midfielders, a replacement for Eriksen and another option up top, so that's 6 players to increase our chances of improving on our points tally from last season

Overall our squad is better than theirs, but the summer transfer window is going to be key - these things turn very quickly and with the very small margin between the teams last season, the purchases are going to be pivotal to who gets bragging rights next season. I just hope it continues to be us.

I guess we'll see, come what May 2020, but I truly believe that last season was a perfect storm of events that impacted negatively on us, whereas for Arsenal they had a pretty typical season.

They've also lost one of their best players (Ramsey) and other key members of the squad are a year older.

Don't get me wrong, we've got a lot of rebuilding to do ourselves, but all in all if both clubs have 'normal' seasons I think the gap between us is more than 1pt.
 

SteveH

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Jul 21, 2003
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They're our main rivals; our arch-enemies, going back over 100 years!

Don't you read stories? I tell you, no sense of narrative in the youth today :rolleyes:
Youth :D I wish!
Arsenal are just one of many rivals, no where near as amusing as say west ham which have far more entertaining and amusing stories. With far higher comedic values!
 

hellava_tough

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Apr 21, 2005
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Youth :D I wish!
Arsenal are just one of many rivals, no where near as amusing as say west ham which have far more entertaining and amusing stories. With far higher comedic values!

You, sir, are a bully! Kicking an inferior when they're down...

They are a pretty funny club though. They remind me a bit of a British sit-com from the late 70s, complete with bawdy humour, sleazy characters and scenarios that always end up in disaster. We certainly love our tragic losers in the UK (y)
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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You missed out the $5billion stadium that they're building, in the expenditure column ;)

Kroenke Sports & Entertainment own Arsenal.. The dog wags the tail in this instance.
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Arsenal (and their fans) will have nothing to do with anything else Kroenke owns.
 

TheChosenOne

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When Arsenal famously pushed us into 3rd place in the 2 horse race in 2015/16 the stats will forever show
they were above us by one point.

One point above them this year is massive - worth millions of pounds and trillions of laughs.
 

rossdapep

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They finished 1 point behind us last season.
They did but its also fair to note just how much of a difficult season that it was for us. No preseason for many of our core players, ridiculous injury list, stadium disruption, huge energy sapping CL games and Wembley.

Of course we need to get recruitment right this summer otherwise we won't be flying high but I think our situation is much more positive.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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They did but its also fair to note just how much of a difficult season that it was for us. No preseason for many of our core players, ridiculous injury list, stadium disruption, huge energy sapping CL games and Wembley.

Of course we need to get recruitment right this summer otherwise we won't be flying high but I think our situation is much more positive.

They had a new manager. It was a difficult season for both.
We finished above them and got cl football. But to say they are crap, we weren't much better especially the second half of the season. We need to improve next season.
 

dirtyh

One Skin, two skin.....
Jun 24, 2011
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they finished behind us is the key point. doesn't matter if it was 1pt or 100. personally think they'll start sliding now, them missing top 4/champs league was monumental for their development/implosion.
 

SteveH

BSoDL candidate for SW London
Jul 21, 2003
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You, sir, are a bully! Kicking an inferior when they're down...

They are a pretty funny club though. They remind me a bit of a British sit-com from the late 70s, complete with bawdy humour, sleazy characters and scenarios that always end up in disaster. We certainly love our tragic losers in the UK (y)

'Up the ammers' was one of Alf's catchphrases 'along with many others' if I remember correctly.
 

Krule

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Jun 4, 2017
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I agree. We have got bragging rights absolutely and get the lucrative draw of the champions league next season, but the table shows that there was 1 point difference between the team's performances over the season.

We lost 3 more games in the league than them and United, and we lost just as many games as Wolves. 13 games out of 38 we lost. More than a third.

Arsenal have a big rebuilding job. They need a new defence (they conceded 51 in the league compared to our 39 - Newcastle, Wolves, Everton and Leicester conceded fewer than Arsenal) and a number of midfielders, but 1 point is the difference.

Does that mean we need to rebuild? Maybe not as much but most people agree we need a new RB, centre back should Toby leave (likely), 2 central midfielders, a replacement for Eriksen and another option up top, so that's 6 players to increase our chances of improving on our points tally from last season

Overall our squad is better than theirs, but the summer transfer window is going to be key - these things turn very quickly and with the very small margin between the teams last season, the purchases are going to be pivotal to who gets bragging rights next season. I just hope it continues to be us.
I agree...margins are not that huge...when you think we were the only team in the top four who qualified for CL but never won a competition last season...it shows just how tight it was and will be again for that fourth spot.
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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Was just one point ..

2012/13 ... Arsenal ...oh did they laugh and celebrate St.Totts - the annual festival.
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2011/12 ... Arsenal .. Assisted by Fulop - another St.Totts, compounded by by Chelsea's spunking the Champions League final and disbarring us from the CL. The only team to have ever been excluded by that rule.
Oh how they laughed and bantered.

Was just 2 points ..

2005/06 Year of the Lasanga - oh how they laughed.

The longer they are out of the Champions League then the happier I am.

We've had some shit years but having to listen to them crowing made it all the worse for it.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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You're missing a whole load of context there.

Nope. The post i was replying to was saying that arsenal are a total mess etc... yet they only finished 1 point behind us. If you are saying they are a total shambles and are all over the place then we must have been too.

They will improve, we need to.
 

Insomnia

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Jan 18, 2006
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When Arsenal famously pushed us into 3rd place in the 2 horse race in 2015/16 the stats will forever show
they were above us by one point.

One point above them this year is massive - worth millions of pounds and trillions of laughs.
Make you 100% there Kev.
Me when they couldn't finish above us this Year

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