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Rafa Vdv: Harry is better than Jose

fridgemagnet

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ry-Redknapp-is-better-than-Jose-Mourinho.html

RAFAEL VAN DER VAART reckons Harry Redknapp is the Special One - not Jose Mourinho.
The former Real Madrid star claims life at the Bernabeu under Mourinho was 'boring'.
But he says Redknapp's laid-back approach at White Hart Lane makes his new boss very special.
Van der Vaart, 27, insists he has rediscovered not just his form at Tottenham but also his love for the game.
The Dutch playmaker said: "Harry is a very special man, that's why I already feel at home at Spurs. It feels like I'm back on the street.
"There are no long and boring speeches about tactics, like I was used to at Real Madrid.
"There is a clipboard in our dressing room but Harry doesn't write anything on it!
"It's very relaxed. The gaffer gives us the line-up 20 minutes before we go out to do our warm-up.
"And the only words he speaks to me are 'You play left or right, work hard, have fun and show the fans your best'.
"Then the defenders get an instruction about who to mark at corners and free-kicks - and that's it."
The Dutch Master, who has hit seven goals already this season, says training at Tottenham is equally low-key.
He added: "It's not that we do nothing - but it's close to that.
"For instance, last weekend Gareth Bale scored a header against Blackburn from my corner.
"But we didn't train one minute on it, it was pure luck. Good kicking, good heading, nothing more.
"And our win at home over Champions League winners Inter Milan was a clear example of playing on intuition. You can't train the goal I scored in that game.
"Of course the players need to have the qualities to end in the good position and the gaffer has to select the best squad.
"But in the end, it's all about feeling and that's what I have right now at Spurs.

"I try to give the best assist possible and guys like Bale try to score a goal out of it. That's our tactic!"
No wonder Van der Vaart cannot stop scoring and cannot stop smiling. He insisted: "Playing in the Premier League was a long-time dream not just for me, but also for my wife.
"She loves England and London and we've been talking for years about how nice it would be to play and live in this fantastic country.
"I have been dreaming about the Premier League since I was a kid. Now I'm finally there and I love it."
What chance Rafa and Spurs get Real Madrid in the Champions League knockout stages now?


Simples!? :shrug::grin:
 

camaj

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I've often wondered why we don't work on X or Y in training. Now it seems like we don't work on anything :(
 

cwy21

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Well, there is a reason why guys like Mourinho win. Its not because he just says go out and have fun before match.
 

Acid

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How worrying is that? Figures though. And shows on the pitch through patchy spells and wtf moments of repeated mistakes.
 

Spurs_Q8

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Well, there is a reason why guys like Mourinho win. Its not because he just says go out and have fun before match.

if Mourinho is that good, let me know why he failed to to take Chelsea to CL final ? he did good things with Porto, other than that .. nothing special .
 

andyw362

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Harry's philosphy is to buy good players and the team will take care of itself. Ive never thought of him as a tactics man, but somebody with a great eye for a player. Every team he has managed, he has brought in better players than what he started with. Eventually the team will rise.
 

fridgemagnet

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I remember someone (it may have even been Harry actually) saying that footballers have enough to think about without having to remember formations and all that sort of thing, so the less information you have to give them the more their brains can concentrate on just their own game and you get a better performance from them thinking for themselves using their own initiative.

So when for example Ramos was here having us play all manner of formations and trying to remember where they were meant to be when players X & Y are at positions Z they couldn't do the simple things right, so Harry comes in and says 4-4-2 and fu**ing run about, all of a sudden the game becomes easier.

If you look at most of Bentleys set pieces when Ramos was here he used to tap his chest a set number of times to indicate what ball he was going to play or try to anyway, that stopped pretty much instantly when Harry came in.
 

Davo99

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if Mourinho is that good, let me know why he failed to to take Chelsea to CL final ? he did good things with Porto, other than that .. nothing special .

In eight season as a manager he has six league titles, two Champions Leagues and a UEFA Cup - including two trebles. He's been highly successful at Porto, Chelsea and Inter, is is now doing a good job at Real. He hasn't lost in 141 home matches, too.

I'd say that's incredible.
 

EastLondonYid

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I personally think VDV was mis-quoted.
You only have to listen to the likes of paul merson, who has played under alot of top managers, he has said many times on sky that Harry is a top tactition, the sun can take a long interview and edit it for a headline to suit them.

Besides, if Harry is as VDV describes...so what....if that gets us CL again..then who cares...."fucking run around abit" is ok with me!
 

EastLondonYid

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That does not win titles....


So are you suggesting that harry has let us down so far?

If jose had took over when harry did and turned us around from relegation contenders to CL the following season, wouldn't you be happy.

Harry, has done a magnificent job,we are on the verge of the final 16 of the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE....give the guy a break.
 

sloth

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So are you suggesting that harry has let us down so far?

If jose had took over when harry did and turned us around from relegation contenders to CL the following season, wouldn't you be happy.

Harry, has done a magnificent job,we are on the verge of the final 16 of the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE....give the guy a break.

Listen mate, I don't think there's a single person who doesn't agree that Harry's been great for us and that as a package he's one of the best managers we've had.

That doesn't give him a free pass on all aspects though does it? Because he's over all good doesn't mean people can't say but he's poor here and here...

The fact remains that a lot of us have been saying for a long while that even though he's a great manager his lack of tactical nouse is worrying. Tactics aren't the be all or end all, there are far more important things than tactics (our results show that!), but when two teams have equally motivated, equally good players what makes the difference?

Harry's very good at what he's good at, but his biggest failing is that he doesn't know his own weaknesses, he prefers that reductor some people employ in everything from Tea Party American politics, to culture, to science and morality... if you don't get it, it must be rubbish!

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong, but my fear is that Harry will reach a glass ceiling in the next couple of seasons beyond which his ability as a manager won't take him... perhaps we should be grateful England will be looking for a new manager before long?
 

EastLondonYid

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Listen mate, I don't think there's a single person who doesn't agree that Harry's been great for us and that as a package he's one of the best managers we've had.

That doesn't give him a free pass on all aspects though does it? Because he's over all good doesn't mean people can't say but he's poor here and here...

The fact remains that a lot of us have been saying for a long while that even though he's a great manager his lack of tactical nouse is worrying. Tactics aren't the be all or end all, there are far more important things than tactics (our results show that!), but when two teams have equally motivated, equally good players what makes the difference?

Harry's very good at what he's good at, but his biggest failing is that he doesn't know his own weaknesses, he prefers that reductor some people employ in everything from Tea Party American politics, to culture, to science and morality... if you don't get it, it must be rubbish!

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong, but my fear is that Harry will reach a glass ceiling in the next couple of seasons beyond which his ability as a manager won't take him... perhaps we should be grateful England will be looking for a new manager before long?


That is your opinion....i suggest some of his results might suggest different.

When we lose to lesser teams, his tactical knowledge is questioned....so why don't we hail him as a tactical genius when he beat ...

INTER....European champs!!
the scum
chelsea
city..twice..to clinch 4th

We can't have it both ways, he won those games with some tactical nouse surely?
A football manager is not all about clipboards...the very best... red nose, hardly sees the players all week....he ain't too bad.

Harry knows how to put a team together, he has proved that, and i am not gratefull england are sniffing around...i have a memory of the last master tactition we had who nearly got us relegated!...thank fuck levy sent him packing off to sunny spain.
 

sloth

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That is your opinion....i suggest some of his results might suggest different.

When we lose to lesser teams, his tactical knowledge is questioned....so why don't we hail him as a tactical genius when he beat ...

INTER....European champs!!
the scum
chelsea
city..twice..to clinch 4th

We can't have it both ways, he won those games with some tactical nouse surely?
A football manager is not all about clipboards...the very best... red nose, hardly sees the players all week....he ain't too bad.

Harry knows how to put a team together, he has proved that, and i am not gratefull england are sniffing around...i have a memory of the last master tactition we had who nearly got us relegated!...thank fuck levy sent him packing off to sunny spain.

I'm not sure what to make of that... I clearly stated that Harry's a good manager and that tactics are not the be all and end all. There are many other qualities that win matches, some of which I listed. Why's that difficult to understand?
 

EastLondonYid

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I'm not sure what to make of that... I clearly stated that Harry's a good manager and that tactics are not the be all and end all. There are many other qualities that win matches, some of which I listed. Why's that difficult to understand?


Your failing to understand my take on why he gets slaughtered for defeats but no tactical praise for major victories...why's that difficult to understand?
 
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