James Ward-Prowse

goughie1966 · Aug 11, 2021

DiVaio said:
And most of this because as @JUSTINSIGNAL said he is good at set pieces. From 13 goals only 2 are from open play. From 10 assists only one against West Ham is from open play.

Not sure what's the source for MOTM performances but yeah I guess he got one for example against Aston Villa because again, he scored 2 free kicks in one match.

Stats per 90 are much more accurate than per game and this really isn't difference when you also consider Spurs had higher % of possession

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Or even worse. People complain how Winks doesn't offer anything offensively but there really isn't difference

last 2 seasons combined per 90 Ward-Prowse Winks
xG+xA 0,29 0,05
xG+xA without set-pieces 0,08 0,04
key passes 1,55 0,67
key passes without set-pieces 0,51 0,50
passes to final 3rd without set-pieces 3,80 6,49
progressive passes 4,01 5,61
shot-creating actions 2,50 1,34
shot-creating actions without set-pieces 1,13 1,17
progressive carries 2,58 4,91

Put Winks in the Southampton team an JWP in the Spurs team and the stats would be much further apart. JWP is breaking into the England set up where Winks is no longer anywhere near it. Winks is nowhere near JWP

CoopsieDeadpool · Aug 11, 2021

moomin said:
i'd take JWP over Sissoko any day

Quite the endorsement.

CoopsieDeadpool · Aug 11, 2021

ReadieSpur said:
So what if he's an upgrade on winks? That's not how you strengthen a squad. Winks just needs to go. We need to upgrade first team starters and strengthen that way. Not slightly improve squad players.

the yid · Aug 11, 2021

Winks adamant to stay... aint gonna play

Johno1470 · Aug 11, 2021

moomin said:
i'd take JWP over Sissoko any day

You misspelt anyone

DiVaio · Aug 11, 2021

goughie1966 said:
Put Winks in the Southampton team an JWP in the Spurs team and the stats would be much further apart. JWP is breaking into the England set up where Winks is no longer anywhere near it. Winks is nowhere near JWP

Winks was part of England team until 2021 when he stopped regularly playing for Spurs and from what I have seen was good there. This really isn't good argument.

And Hojbjerg last season or Romeu this season from quick look had better stats than JWP.

Daredevil · Aug 11, 2021

Personally, would love JWP. Always been impressed by him. Excellent ball delivery and work rate. And if it was to replace Winks… *chef’s kiss*

Mphw · Aug 11, 2021

Not what we need in my opinion, not much of an upgrade on winks, he stands out in a bad Southampton side.

hughy · Aug 11, 2021

Can't wait for everyone to be back here wanting him sold in 2 years.

EssexSH27 · Aug 11, 2021

Not for me. Soton want more than 30m. Think we can get much more value elsewhere for that fee.

Guntz · Aug 11, 2021

essexyiddo27 said:
Not for me. Soton want more than 30m. Think we can get much more value elsewhere for that fee.

*more than 40m

and I agree, there's much better value around Europe.

TheTanguy · Aug 11, 2021

essexyiddo27 said:
Not for me. Soton want more than 30m. Think we can get much more value elsewhere for that fee.

Could probably sign real quality for that money like Gladbach's Florian Neuhaus.

Nerine · Aug 11, 2021

ReadieSpur said:
Nice show of loyalty there from Winks.... The other Harry could learn a thing or to from him.... ?

There’s a difference between “loyalty” and refusing to leave the club because you’re on a cushy little number and you know that you’ll struggle to get the same remuneration elsewhere.

Guntz · Aug 11, 2021

Mphw said:
Not what we need in my opinion, not much of an upgrade on winks, he stands out in a bad Southampton side.

I agree we should be going after other players, but don't tell me he's not an upgrade on Winks.

Winks could only dream of doing half of these things

SpursSince1980 · Aug 11, 2021

Guntz said:
I agree we should be going after other players, but don't tell me he's not an upgrade on Winks.

Winks could only dream of doing half of these things

Winks and Ben Davies the other way might pique their interest.

Mr Pink · Aug 11, 2021

He's a far more attacking threat than Winks...he's a superior player...pretty obvious like.

Lukasz · Aug 11, 2021

Would be a definitive upgrade on Winks and a good addition to the squad without a doubt, but surely the Don can find someone as good or better abroad for money that Southampton will quote for him.

easley91 · Aug 11, 2021

Must be in the minority, because I like Ward-Prowse and thought he was unlucky to miss out on the Euros.

Erm33 · Aug 11, 2021

dtxspurs said:
Gotta think you can find a better midfielder for that sort of money

Like Ndombele ?

McFlash · Aug 11, 2021

He's not a bad player but then, he's not particularly a good player either.
So it a "meh" from me.

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