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coy-spurs1882

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as if we have the power to remove him say through election ?‍♂️ all we can hope is a sugar daddy willing to pay what ENIC wants to take over the club
 

Hawkey77

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I don't understand why we make a record signing for the Women's team and not get 100% behind a top manager who wins for the main mens team.
I support the mens first team first and might look for other results (seldom tbh) and the men winning something is all I care about.
FFS another 20 years winning nothing FUUUUUUCCCCCK
I’ve read some drivel on here the last few days and resisted posting because (I thought) there were zero original thoughts on this whole topic. However criticising the club for advancing women’s football…come on that’s not cool and I can’t let that slide. It’s a completely different situation and the club should be applauded for (finally) investing in the women’s team. Spending £250k (or whatever it is) on Beth England makes a huge difference to the women’s team vs what that investment would do for the men’s team.
 

Trix

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I hate that so many in our fanbase mock those who want to make a difference.

We saw it last year and it was really distasteful.
I have always asked the question of what do you think it will achieve? Last year I think you'd have gotten no where with any sort of protests, and even now I think you've got next to no chance of Enic selling up, but we might be able to affect Levy's position in some way.
 

Trix

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If we are Financially in a mess on top of everything else that is really concerning.

Herc saying UNITE BEFORE WE ARE NO MORE has me seriously worried
He's gone a bit OTT mate is all. We are not in any sort of trouble financially.
 

NickHSpurs

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I haven't posted on here for a few months as I've been avoiding all forums and "Spurs Twitter" because I've been so fed up with it all but I started dipping back in to see some opinions since the Villa game as it felt like another turning point and I feel the need to comment here.

People seem to think that being "Levy Out" means you're "Conte In" but shouldn't we want both out?

Let's start with Levy. Never forget that nonsense he sold us about getting our identity back when employing Nuno, an identity we haven't seen on the pitch since 2019.

We have been on a remarkable decline since the CL final at the very moment he should have invested on the pitch. Instead he failed to back the best manager we've had in decades and then went on to employ three managers who served up, boring, negative, pragmatic football that nobody enjoys watching and didn't win a thing. The move to employ a proven winner in Jose didn't work and it won't work with Conte, it was never going to work because as a Club we're not setup to accomodate them.

As for Conte, he wins fans over by dishing out sound bites where people think he's speaking honestly about the quality in the squad and maybe he is right to an extent but let's not forget he's supposed to be this born winner, an elite manager. Yet he's serving us up absolutely horrendous performances week after week and refuses to change.

We've gone behind in what is it 8-9 games in a row now? That's unacceptable. Just because Levy has shortcomings don't be so short sighted to deflect from the piss poor work Conte is serving us.

He expects the board to throw money at players but who's going to want to commit to joining us when Conte himself won't? Any player we're targetting in this window will be well aware the manager buying them might not even be here in six days let alone six months!

It doesn't appear we're going to win anything by being "pragmatic" and getting proven "winners" in so how about both Levy and Conte jog on and we start again with the absolute bare mimimum we come to expect as Tottenham fans and give us some football we enjoy watching!
 

JollyHappy

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There is a lot of stuff which is very concerning I cannot reveal here, which nobody can dispute. We now need to make a stand.

This is not something I am doing because of a few knee jerks. I don’t do Twitter, and never will. But those of you who does, you need to start making it count. Bombard the club with emails. It is not about Conte. This is where many are totally misguided.

I have been sharing behind the scenes for a long while. And they can tell you I have never been wrong on this. The club is in a total mess. One person is causing this. And if you believe Poch or another manager is the answer, you are in for a rude awakening.

Let us unite as fans to drive Mr Daniel Levy out of our club.

I'm sure Hercules has some inside knowledge and it's obvious that Conte is unhappy, maybe being driven out but saying get rid of Daniel Levy doesn't actually help as he is not the majority shareholder.

ENIC principally Joe Lewis control the direction of the club. I can't believe Daniel Levy takes any major decisions without reference to the true power in the club.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I think the biggest question is what would it actually take for Levy to get pushed out? And even if he did get pushed out how much would things change whilst ENIC is still in charge?

As long as the stadium is full every week will ENIC really care if the fans are disgruntled? Idk. The fact that our time with Conte seems to be almost up primarily because he is not being backed should be enough for the fans to completely turn on the ownership but I’m just not convinced we will see anything change.

Spurs these days are more like a soap opera, and a dull one at that, then a sports club and until we have a revolution at the very centre nothing will change on the pitch.
 

knowlespurs

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They are and I'm not suggesting Ragnick would be the right man for the job but if he did get it and got rid of Conte straight away at least that would have been because he/we had a clear strategy and philosophy to follow, as opposed to this mix and match bullshit we've been witnessing for 20 years.
Then levy would sack ragnick, he has been flip flopping for years, paratici seems very very quiet as well which is also worrying
 

sidford

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I have always asked the question of what do you think it will achieve? Last year I think you'd have gotten no where with any sort of protests, and even now I think you've got next to no chance of Enic selling up, but we might be able to affect Levy's position in some way.
Fans have to try something. If you just bitch and moan about something but fail to even try and do something about it then you'd be just a little bitch. Fair play to anyone who actually makes the effort to try and protest properly. The vitriol that Levy faced at the Man u under Nuno will return and there was a fair few joining in at that and I genuinely believe there will be more this time around.
 

Trix

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I'm sure Hercules has some inside knowledge and it's obvious that Conte is unhappy, maybe being driven out but saying get rid of Daniel Levy doesn't actually help as he is not the majority shareholder.

ENIC principally Joe Lewis control the direction of the club. I can't believe Daniel Levy takes any major decisions without reference to the true power in the club.
Legally yes, in reality no. Levy has a free run at it tbh. I don't think Joe cares too much as long as the numbers continue to soar.
 

parj

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Jul 27, 2003
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He is hiring a cheque book manager and giving him relative peanuts.

Things is he wasn’t convinced by

Jol
Redknapp
AVB
Poch
Jose
Nuno
And now Conte

the only person Dan Levy is convinced by is Dan Levy, and even then I bet he asks himself some pretty tough questions
Jol, Redknapp and AVB we didn't have the set up to match the big clubs. Poch suffered as a result of the stadium build and is the one thing I wholeheartedly agree Levy fcuked up not backing the right guy.

Jose, Nuno and Conte are Levy fcuk ups but because of the style he hired. All three have initially been backed but then with those players the style got worse. I want Levy not involved in football matters but when managers aren't playing football it makes it harder for all fans to unite.

I would prefer we get people in decision making positions that buy into audere est facere. Most of us support the club cos of the style. No point in hiring managers that don't fit the style expected. But this is where the DoF needs to also be the right person.

FP bought in Royal, Gil, Spence and I like those signings at the time cos they were going, attacking and exciting players but the manager doesn't play 2 of the three so the disconnect is still there. But then did FP or Levy appoint Conte? Cos the transfer strategy isn't aligned. I don't want Conte getting everyone he wants, no manager gets that, but at least some younger players that can bring hunger to the team.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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I haven't posted on here for a few months as I've been avoiding all forums and "Spurs Twitter" because I've been so fed up with it all but I started dipping back in to see some opinions since the Villa game as it felt like another turning point and I feel the need to comment here.

People seem to think that being "Levy Out" means you're "Conte In" but shouldn't we want both out?

Let's start with Levy. Never forget that nonsense he sold us about getting our identity back when employing Nuno, an identity we haven't seen on the pitch since 2019.

We have been on a remarkable decline since the CL final at the very moment he should have invested on the pitch. Instead he failed to back the best manager we've had in decades and then went on to employ three managers who served up, boring, negative, pragmatic football that nobody enjoys watching and didn't win a thing. The move to employ a proven winner in Jose didn't work and it won't work with Conte, it was never going to work because as a Club we're not setup to accomodate them.

As for Conte, he wins fans over by dishing out sound bites where people think he's speaking honestly about the quality in the squad and maybe he is right to an extent but let's not forget he's supposed to be this born winner, an elite manager. Yet he's serving us up absolutely horrendous performances week after week and refuses to change.

We've gone behind in what is it 8-9 games in a row now? That's unacceptable. Just because Levy has shortcomings don't be so short sighted to deflect from the piss poor work Conte is serving us.

He expects the board to throw money at players but who's going to want to commit to joining us when Conte himself won't? Any player we're targetting in this window will be well aware the manager buying them might not even be here in six days let alone six months!

It doesn't appear we're going to win anything by being "pragmatic" and getting proven "winners" in so how about both Levy and Conte jog on and we start again with the absolute bare mimimum we come to expect as Tottenham fans and give us some football we enjoy watching!

Yeah this is where I'm at.

I want Levy and the board gone and a new management team brought in at the very top of the club (although I think Joe Lewis is a big problem too and there's nothing we can do to shift him). The whole board are stale and we need fresh energy and ideas.

Bring Paul Barber in as CEO and Poch or Tuchel in as manager and essentially reset. We've got a core of good players and even though there might be some painful departures, with the right operational management and recruitment, allied with our higher revenues, we can still build something special with a consistent vision and strategy that fits with our club ethos.
 

DFF

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If this is our best chance in 20 years to get Levy to step aside from the football side of club, then I’m here for it. Quite frankly, I don’t care if the Conte experiment explodes as long as he takes Levy down with him. Otherwise we’re in for another 20 years of chopping and changing another 11 managers/systems/styles to keep us treading water, but never truly competing.
 

Trix

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Fans have to try something. If you just bitch and moan about something but fail to even try and do something about it then you'd be just a little bitch. Fair play to anyone who actually makes the effort to try and protest properly. The vitriol that Levy faced at the Man u under Nuno will return and there was a fair few joining in at that and I genuinely believe there will be more this time around.
I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, I'm just questioning what they their end game is.
 
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