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[sloth]

good point WS - the money comes almost 100% from fans - it's us who put the money in - it's up to Levy & co to spend it well

Not true I'm afraid .

Only £30.9m comes from match-day revenue. Compare that with Utd's £92.5m, Chelsea's £74.5m, Arsenal's £90.6m and even Liverpool's £38.4m and you can see why expanding the stadium is such a big priority for Levy.

33.7m comes from broadcasting revenue, which compares remarkably well with Newcastle's paltry £25.9m, lol, although I'm not sure why they do so poorly there??

And £38.5m comes from Commercial activities which I guess must include everything from Sponsorship, Kit supply, shirt sales etc.

Again compare that with the Barcodes £27.6 and even more impressively with the ubiquitous Arsenal and Liverpool on £42.7m and £43.3m respectively and it's clear what a fantastic job (on the commercial side of things at least) Levy has been doing.

In fact can someone tell me how we're only earning £4m per year less on commercial activities than the Arse marketing machine? Incredible. While Toon are almost £11m behind us in the same dept.

My source btw, is the helpful link in the post above.

 

[SpurSince57]

Interesting that Stamford Bridge and Anfield have almost exactly the same capacity, yet Chelsea make virtually twice as much money from ticket sales.

 

[sloth]

Interesting that Stamford Bridge and Anfield have almost exactly the same capacity, yet Chelsea make virtually twice as much money from ticket sales.

Yeah, i hadn't noticed that, I wonder how that works? There's a few strange figures in there.

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm pretty sure that the average ticket price at Anfield is relatively cheap. I'm also pretty sure that Stadtler and Waldorf will want to do something about that next season, assuming they haven't sold up by then.

 

[Cicada]

Yeah, i hadn't noticed that, I wonder how that works? There's a few strange figures in there.

prolly something to do with the fact that those scousers can only afford tickets by selling the hubcaps they stole off the away team fans, yet Chelsea fans are all friends of russian gangsters...

alledegly...

 

[DC_Boy]

Not true I'm afraid .

Only £30.9m comes from match-day revenue. Compare that with Utd's £92.5m, Chelsea's £74.5m, Arsenal's £90.6m and even Liverpool's £38.4m and you can see why expanding the stadium is such a big priority for Levy.

33.7m comes from broadcasting revenue, which compares remarkably well with Newcastle's paltry £25.9m, lol, although I'm not sure why they do so poorly there??

And £38.5m comes from Commercial activities which I guess must include everything from Sponsorship, Kit supply, shirt sales etc.

disagree sloth- all of it comes from the
Again compare that with the Barcodes £27.6 and even more impressively with the ubiquitous Arsenal and Liverpool on £42.7m and £43.3m respectively and it's clear what a fantastic job (on the commercial side of things at least) Levy has been doing.

In fact can someone tell me how we're only earning £4m per year less on commercial activities than the Arse marketing machine? Incredible. While Toon are almost £11m behind us in the same dept.

My source btw, is the helpful link in the post above.

yes true Sloth - it all comes from the fans

 

[sloth]

yes true Sloth - it all comes from the fans

How'd you mean?

 

[DC_Boy]

How'd you mean?

well it's the fans that buy the merchandise - the sponsors and suits are only interested cos of us fans' fanaticism - how much would Mansion pay for a county cricket team or a county netball team etc

the TV money ditto - do Sky bankroll cross-country running or netball like football - no -

the fans make the Prem & English football what it is - as do all fans across the world

no fans no money no Berbatovs

 

[nickspurs]

I think DC Boy is correctly pointing out that ultimately all money that is made is driven by the willingness of customers to spend money on Spurs-related activities. Some is obvious and direct: match tickets, a shirt; while some is indirect, e.g. Sky revenues.

Sky don't do it from the goodness of their heart. They are monetising fans' willingness to subscribe to Sky Sports to see their teams play, yours and my subscription fees indirectly ends up at Spurs.

 

[nickspurs]

too quick for me DC Boy...

 

[DC_Boy]

I think DC Boy is correctly pointing out that ultimately all money that is made is driven by the willingness of customers to spend money on Spurs-related activities. Some is obvious and direct: match tickets, a shirt; while some is indirect, e.g. Sky revenues.

Sky don't do it from the goodness of their heart. They are monetising fans' willingness to subscribe to Sky Sports to see their teams play, yours and my subscription fees indirectly ends up at Spurs.

exactly Nick

Spurs are run like most PLCs - AFAIK Levy doesn't put his own money in - at a club like Chelsea it hasn't just been the fans money - although you could obliquely argue it was their interest that sparked Abramovich's interest etc - but that is oblique to say the least

basically Spurs income derives almost solely from the fans - we don't have a sugar daddy injecting millions into the cllub AFAIK again

 

[sloth]

well it's the fans that buy the merchandise - the sponsors and suits are only interested cos of us fans' fanaticism - how much would Mansion pay for a county cricket team or a county netball team etc

the TV money ditto - do Sky bankroll cross-country running or netball like football - no -

the fans make the Prem & English football what it is - as do all fans across the world

no fans no money no Berbatovs

You'd be right to say that the sponsors etc are buying into the Premier League, of which we are of course a leading light. Stick Spurs in the Scots Prem or in the Championship and see how much money we generate. But it's not us per se, so much as all fans, hard and soft, which generate the revenue.

I read the original comment as pertaining to Spurs fans solely, in which light i made my reply.

 

[sloth]

exactly Nick

Spurs are run like most PLCs - AFAIK Levy doesn't put his own money in - at a club like Chelsea it hasn't just been the fans money - although you could obliquely argue it was their interest that sparked Abramovich's interest etc - but that is oblique to say the least

basically Spurs income derives almost solely from the fans - we don't have a sugar daddy injecting millions into the cllub AFAIK again

?? Levy's got millions of his own money tied up in shares.

And Spurs money derives from being in the Premier League. It derives from performance on the pitch therefore and that is driven by the management board and ultimately Levy. The fans play a vital role (and it's certainly true to say that without them we'd be sunk), but as I pointed out in my previous post, it's not us, not the Spurs fans, but fans in general which account for the huge revenues we rake in.

 

[DC_Boy]

?? Levy's got millions of his own money tied up in shares.

And Spurs money derives from being in the Premier League. It derives from performance on the pitch therefore and that is driven by the management board and ultimately Levy. The fans play a vital role (and it's certainly true to say that without them we'd be sunk), but as I pointed out in my previous post, it's not us, not the Spurs fans, but fans in general which account for the huge revenues we rake in.

and AFAIK he's made a tremendous profit on them - fair play to him but it is not the same As Abramovich's gifts to Chelsea

I repeat again our money derives from the fans -

 

[sloth]

and AFAIK he's made a tremendous profit on them - fair play to him but it is not the same As Abramovich's gifts to Chelsea

I repeat again our money derives from the fans -

I know this is going to sound dense, but what does AFAIK stand for?

And don't under-estimate the risk inherent in shares. I don't know what Levy's personal fortune is but I reckon a large part of it is bound up in Spurs. It's not now and certainly wasn't previously, a risk free investment.

Finally, how do you address what I wrote about where the money comes from? I mean specifically rather than a general re-stating of your own position such as "our money derives from fans." Perhaps I'm wrong? But in that case the decent thing would be show me where

 

[DC_Boy]

I know this is going to sound dense, but what does AFAIK stand for?

And don't under-estimate the risk inherent in shares. I don't know what Levy's personal fortune is but I reckon a large part of it is bound up in Spurs. It's not now and certainly wasn't previously, a risk free investment.

Finally, how do you address what I wrote about where the money comes from? I mean specifically rather than a general re-stating of your own position such as "our money derives from fans." Perhaps I'm wrong? But in that case the decent thing would be show me where

as far as I know - apologies for textese Sloth

of course it wasn't a risk free investment but it was an investment unlikee Abrahmovic Walker Gibson etc etc who have clearly poured money into clubs without thinking they'll get it back

the money comes from fans in our case cos it doesn't come from Levy the board who treat it as a a business - they even took a dividend last year - plus great profits on the shares -

it comes from the fans because as Nick says and I've said - no fans - no sponsorship no Sky TV no corporate deals -

and yes in a sense you could argue no fans no Abramovich no Gibson no Walker - but those clubs are/were different to ours under Levy - he may put the money to good use (some may argue differently - but i think overall he does a good job) - but the income of Spurs derives from fan-generated outside sources not sugar daddies