Timothy Castagne

[Vincent30]

You obviously haven’t been watching the United-Southampton game to be posting this at the moment. He’s been fleeced for both of United’s goals.

I don't really know what this has to do with my comment?

I don't rate Aarons at all, so it's not like i'm claiming we should keep and start KWP. My whole point is KWP and Aarons are both very mediocre players. There would be no point in investing in Aarons when we already have a player of the same level at the club.

 

[Montalbano]

I don't really know what this has to do with my comment?

I don't rate Aarons at all, so it's not like i'm claiming we should keep and start KWP. My whole point is KWP and Aarons are both very mediocre players. There would be no point in investing in Aarons when we already have a player of the same level at the club.

I was just joking around as you posted that he isn’t an upgrade on KWP just as he had been skinned for a 2nd goal against United. It was a poor performance from KWP and he looked out of his depth.
I personally haven’t seen Aarons play that poorly this season, and have been quite impressed with him. But I also realize that it is silly to judge a player off one performance.

 

[C0YS]

As I said on page 2 or whatever, that's the only Atalanta wide defender we need to go out and get.

Castagne and Hateboer are not good enough.

Right, the players of the best team in Italy right now and Champions League quarter finalists and only arguably their best player for us is good enough. like. I think both those players mentioned would add something. But the reality is most Atalanta players wouldn't come to us. Atalanta are a much better side than we are at the moment. It's not even close.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

Seen Castagne a bit in a few games and he’s nothing special. Not really any better than Trippier. We should be aiming higher

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Right, the players of the best team in Italy right now and Champions League quarter finalists and only arguably their best player for us is good enough. like. I think both those players mentioned would add something. But the reality is most Atalanta players wouldn't come to us. Atalanta are a much better side than we are at the moment. It's not even close.

That's not true. We offer far better wages than Atalanta and London is still a big appeal for many players. They would at the very least strongly consider it.

And no, Gosens is not their best player. Not even top 3.

 

[joey55]

Seen Castagne a bit in a few games and he’s nothing special. Not really any better than Trippier. We should be aiming higher

The thing is though, no matter what era of football you are watching, there are never an abundance of special full backs. It's a very hard position, particularly in the modern game. So few players are going to be top class defenders, have the athleticism to get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and have the technical quality to create in the final third.

If you look at the entire Prem, it's only Robertson, Pereira and Trent that are real quality. Yet there are a ton attacking midfield players and there always are. A club of the caliber of Athletico didn't buy Tripper because there is an abundance of good full backs around. Our fans used to complain about Walker, but in reality, he was probably the best in the Prem. It's just a really hard position to stand out in and easy to criticize. Before today's game I went on a Leicester City forum and was surprised to see them not overly enthusiastic about Chillwell. Generally speaking, fans are rarely satisfied with their fullbacks, but when you look at what's asked of them, it's understandable.

 

[rossdapep]

The thing is though, no matter what era of football you are watching, there are never an abundance of special full backs. It's a very hard position, particularly in the modern game. So few players are going to be top class defenders, have the athleticism to get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and have the technical quality to create in the final third.

If you look at the entire Prem, it's only Robertson, Pereira and Trent that are real quality. Yet there are a ton attacking midfield players and there always are. A club of the caliber of Athletico didn't buy Tripper because there is an abundance of good full backs around. Our fans used to complain about Walker, but in reality, he was probably the best in the Prem. It's just a really hard position to stand out in and easy to criticize. Before today's game I went on a Leicester City forum and was surprised to see them not overly enthusiastic about Chillwell. Generally speaking, fans are rarely satisfied with their fullbacks, but when you look at what's asked of them, it's understandable.

Excellently put.

As a former full back myself. I'd have plenty of terrible games because I had zero help from my right midfielder, it makes you look worse.

Full backs often have to rely on communication and instructions from their CB, so sometimes they appear out of position but only because they were asked to cover.

Hopefully we get a RB who is smart tactically.

 

[GutBucket]

The thing is though, no matter what era of football you are watching, there are never an abundance of special full backs. It's a very hard position, particularly in the modern game. So few players are going to be top class defenders, have the athleticism to get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and have the technical quality to create in the final third.

If you look at the entire Prem, it's only Robertson, Pereira and Trent that are real quality. Yet there are a ton attacking midfield players and there always are. A club of the caliber of Athletico didn't buy Tripper because there is an abundance of good full backs around. Our fans used to complain about Walker, but in reality, he was probably the best in the Prem. It's just a really hard position to stand out in and easy to criticize. Before today's game I went on a Leicester City forum and was surprised to see them not overly enthusiastic about Chillwell. Generally speaking, fans are rarely satisfied with their fullbacks, but when you look at what's asked of them, it's understandable.

Yeah there seems to be a shortage of quality FBs atm. A decade ago there were Alves, Maicon, Srna, Lahm, Ivanovic, Sagna, Evra, Cole, Abidal, Zanetti etc. There are still some great ones but It seems to be the hardest position to fill now, and tactically they are probably more important than ever. Plus there's so many good wingers now, it's a nightmare having to deal with the likes of Traore, St. Maximin, Son, Sterling, Mahrez, Salah, Mane etc. Huge props to Aurier for playing after what's happend in his family and he is rarely rotated plus played NLD.

 

[joey55]

Yeah there seems to be a shortage of quality FBs atm. A decade ago there were Alves, Maicon, Srna, Lahm, Ivanovic, Sagna, Evra, Cole, Abidal, Zanetti etc. There are still some great ones but It seems to be the hardest position to fill now, and tactically they are probably more important than ever. Plus there's so many good wingers now, it's a nightmare having to deal with the likes of Traore, St. Maximin, Son, Sterling, Mahrez, Salah, Mane etc. Huge props to Aurier for playing after what's happend in his family and he is rarely rotated plus played NLD.

Compare those to the AM's, CM's or Strikers of that time. There is always a shortage of top class fullbacks. Look at the Spanish national teams CM's at that time. You talking Iniesta, Xavi, Alonso, Fabregas and Busquets. If you go through world football, you'd end up with 20 plus players that everyone thinks are top quality. We had Modric and England had Scoles, Lampard and Gerrard. Compare that to the FB's. You don't have to scrape the barrel with the likes of Sagna in other positions.

 

[C0YS]

That's not true. We offer far better wages than Atalanta and London is still a big appeal for many players. They would at the very least strongly consider it.

And no, Gosens is not their best player. Not even top 3.

They are still far better than us and we wouldn't stand a chance on Gosens.

The reason we are after Castagne is because his contract is running out and is available, affordable and wants to come to the prem. London is a big appeal to some players, but northern Lombardy is not bad either! Or milan if you want the city life. People could leave to us sure. But it's not a guarantee and we would probably be outbid.

Gosens is arguably their best player, though he is a bit suspect defensively and not sure he would shine in a back 4. 9 goals and 8 assists from fullback are insane numbers. Yes, I would put Gomes, Zapata, Illic all ahead. But he is up there, you could easily argue.

Gosens is being watched by Inter, Juventus, Chelsea and Lyon. Assuming he'd want to move, and the rumoured cost of him would be 35 million. For a player who probably wont suit a back 4 thats a lot of money. Castagne is less productive but is dependable, has good defensive figures and has a good cross on him. More built for fullback and we are talking around 10 mil.

 

[Spurrific]

Right, the players of the best team in Italy right now and Champions League quarter finalists and only arguably their best player for us is good enough. like. I think both those players mentioned would add something. But the reality is most Atalanta players wouldn't come to us. Atalanta are a much better side than we are at the moment. It's not even close.

This is utter nonsense. Of fucking course they would. While Atalanta are doing well this year, it is a small club that has won one trophy in its history and has a stadium capacity of 21000. If we had a bid accepted, every one of their players (unless some sort of lifelong fan or something) would jump at the chance to join any big club in the Premier League. In fact, most of them would join Palace if given the opportunity as they’d make a lot more money. Their top earner is on about 40k a week.

 

[C0YS]

This is utter nonsense. Of fucking course they would. While Atalanta are doing well this year, it is a small club that has won one trophy in its history and has a stadium capacity of 21000. If we had a bid accepted, every one of their players (unless some sort of lifelong fan or something) would jump at the chance to join any big club in the Premier League. In fact, most of them would join Palace if given the opportunity as they’d make a lot more money. Their top earner is on about 40k a week.

You'd be surprised mate. Atalanta aren't a historically big club. But they'll have champions league and a real good chance of winning something there. Sure, some will go for the money, and Atalanta will want to profit to, but they would be leaving CL football and quite possibly a serie A title challenge. If they are ambitious, unless a super club come in, I'd stay in Atalanta.

I don't think people realise just how good this Atalanta team are. Better than last seasons Ajax I think. Could realistically go the distance in the CL too. This isn't some nothing team coming out of nowhere. This is a team that has finished 4th, 7th, 3rd and now likely in the top 3 again in the last 4 seasons and right now are the form team of italy, unbeaten in whose form reads W13 D3 L0. Like I said they are light years ahead of us this season. The team might collapse and be broken down, but I wouldn't be so sure people will be wanting to jump ship out of something so special.

 

[DJS]

Seen Castagne a bit in a few games and he’s nothing special. Not really any better than Trippier. We should be aiming higher

And it was this mentality that led to us not signing anyone a whole transfer window and our squad growing stale as we never refreshed it ;-)

 

[THFCSPURS19]

You'd be surprised mate. Atalanta aren't a historically big club. But they'll have champions league and a real good chance of winning something there. Sure, some will go for the money, and Atalanta will want to profit to, but they would be leaving CL football and quite possibly a serie A title challenge. If they are ambitious, unless a super club come in, I'd stay in Atalanta.

I don't think people realise just how good this Atalanta team are. Better than last seasons Ajax I think. Could realistically go the distance in the CL too. This isn't some nothing team coming out of nowhere. This is a team that has finished 4th, 7th, 3rd and now likely in the top 3 again in the last 4 seasons and right now are the form team of italy, unbeaten in whose form reads W13 D3 L0. Like I said they are light years ahead of us this season. The team might collapse and be broken down, but I wouldn't be so sure people will be wanting to jump ship out of something so special.

You say that but looking at Leicester for example, Kante left the season after they won the league and I’m pretty sure Mahrez wanted to leave and Vardy nearly went to Arsenal.

 

[gibbospurs]

You'd be surprised mate. Atalanta aren't a historically big club. But they'll have champions league and a real good chance of winning something there. Sure, some will go for the money, and Atalanta will want to profit to, but they would be leaving CL football and quite possibly a serie A title challenge. If they are ambitious, unless a super club come in, I'd stay in Atalanta.

I don't think people realise just how good this Atalanta team are. Better than last seasons Ajax I think. Could realistically go the distance in the CL too. This isn't some nothing team coming out of nowhere. This is a team that has finished 4th, 7th, 3rd and now likely in the top 3 again in the last 4 seasons and right now are the form team of italy, unbeaten in whose form reads W13 D3 L0. Like I said they are light years ahead of us this season. The team might collapse and be broken down, but I wouldn't be so sure people will be wanting to jump ship out of something so special.

We went the distance in the CL. Doesn’t mean our players wouldn’t leave.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Have we signed the prick yet? If not, why the fuck not? Tax paying fuckers here getting bored

 

[Mattspurs1982]

And it was this mentality that led to us not signing anyone a whole transfer window and our squad growing stale as we never refreshed it ;-)

i said aim higher - not assume there’s no one better than Aurier and not bother aiming at all

 

[arunspurs]

This is why I am hoping & praying we sign Castagne

 

[Snarfalicious]

This is why I am hoping & praying we sign Castagne

Would definitely be nice to have an accurate crosser from deep. Kane would flourish off that kind of service.

 

[arunspurs]

Would definitely be nice to have an accurate crosser from deep. Kane would flourish off that kind of service.

And he will suit for role as as Jose tries to play Aurier far up the pitch. Only Aurier is very erratic on crosses