The Deadline Day ITK Discussion Thread - 1st September

[Stoof]

Tapsoba should be a Spurs player, Eze should become one also.

Maddison, Johnson, Tapsoba and Eze are the kind of signings a big team makes when losing a player like Harry....we pulled off half of what was needed

That’s c. £200m worth of players there

 

[talkshowhost86]

Would have been a great window if we hadn't sold our best ever player.

But we did.

So it wasn't.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

That’s c. £200m worth of players there

Exactly.
Very doable for a club with ambition. Or a club that makes over 100 million in sales.

 

[cjbyid]

Hopefully a CB in the next window.

Too many changes having to be made to this squad. One window wasn't going to do it. Disappointed we didn't get more out but happy with our ins.

Hopefully we see a contract or two ripped up.

 

[Blue]

Considering he missed only one game as a result of a red card or accumulating yellows in his Spurs career and didn't get any yellow this season yet, I would say pretty high.

Are you happy with the window?

 

[Paul Rogers]

Which is fine if you get the manager what he does want, and he desperately wanted another CB.

The last 3 or 4 managers have all wanted another cb nothing ever changes with levy in charge

 

[Stoof]

Exactly.
Very doable for a club with ambition. Or a club that makes over 100 million in sales.

OK. So we should have spent a further £120m+ on top of £40m Maddison and £47.5m Johnson?

 

[Dillspur]

Apparently Fulham have a deal going through for a defender, maybe a chance for Tosin?

 

[nicdic]

Levy never spends any money

*Levy literally just spent £47.5m on a player*

 

[Caco]

On loan, whilst paying most of his wages.

Ah I know it's very different, put aside what happened, he's a generational talent and UTD really wanted to keep him. If he shows a fraction of his ability in Spain he will be sold, most likely Saudi, but for big money.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

We have two CBs in our squad who our new manager consider 1st team worthy

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Exactly this.

The pair of them (and others) would rather risk having no squad number and training with the U21s, then actually just leave and play and compete elsewhere.

If anyone needed evidence of just how cushy some of these players have it at Spurs - this is it laid bare.

The absurdly easily pleased on here will laud the pair of them as great servants blah blah blah.

In reality they would rather stay here and get paid to run down a contract, than actually leave and have to work hard elsewhere.

Would you move to a different company if you knew that meant working harder, for lower pay, for a smaller and less prestigious company?
Then factor in that you would be moving away from your friends and potentially to a less desirable location.
What upsides would the new job need to offer in order to convince you to accept these massive downsides?

Great servants my absolute hole.

They committed to lengthy contracts (not something most of us have to do - my notice period is 3 months). They have committed the best part of their careers to the club and have worked hard. The club (not them) has since decided that their services are no longer required, signed replacements (Vicario & VDV), and opted not to offer them contract extensions.

What Dier reportedly wants is to stay and fight for his place - not to run down his contract.
Michael Dawson found himself in a very similar situation when AVB arrived and implemented a high line. Although he wasn't in the last 12 months of his contract, he opted to fight for his place, instead of moving, after the manager had made it clear that he didn't fit the system. A few months later, our better suited CBs were injured / underperforming and Dawson put in a solid shift.
During this summer window, I've seen criticism of Van der Vaart on SC, for not having stayed and fought for his place under AVB. It's therefore inconsistent for Dier to be criticised for choosing to stay. The only difference I can see is that one player is considered to be better than the other, but a player's ability shouldn't have any influence on how their work ethic or commitment is perceived. Any insinuations that Dier is being lazy or taking the easy option are unfounded.

 

[stormfly]

I can’t believe some players are just happy to waste a year of their career by just sticking around, not playing and picking up wages. Conte wasn’t so wrong after all when he said a lot of our players don’t want pressure. It shows why we still have a way to go to sort the culture out at this club.

 

[Cel]

It’s even shitter when you don’t even make an attempt to replace the best goal scorer in your clubs history. Unforgivable really.

I don't think you can tbh, it's almost not worth trying to like for like, especially the way we are playing. Depressing, but he's most likely the best player I'll ever see wear the shirt.

I think we will be OK up top. Different, maybe not better, but OK. We looks like we have goals in us. I like the look of Johnson - but that's half the cash.

The unforgivable one for me is the CB's. You can't replace Harry, but the money could have rounded out the team.

We were short of quality when playing to their CB low block strengths (Allegedly). We are going to get destroyed in a high line if we get injuries.

We had 2 weeks to use the other c.50m to sign maybe a couple of back up CB's, which would have balanced this squad nicely, I don't get why we were scrambling last minute.

 

[THOWIG]

At least three of those you listed know they’re not in the manager’s plans, but chose to stay here and rot on nice wages, than take opportunities to extend their careers elsewhere.

I can’t think of worse types of characters to have around a young, hungry, developing squad.

Why you’d want them anywhere near our first team is beyond me.

But they won’t be involved and probably be gone in a few weeks. Most of you just aren’t realistic. We aren’t solving this in one window.

But we have a better goalkeeper, a better left back, a better centre back than last season. We have an attacking midfielder that we didn’t have last season. We have another promising winger who can play across the front line.
We’d all like another centre back and striker, but to get all those players in over one window is impossible.

 

[Trix]

Apparently Fulham have a deal going through for a defender, maybe a chance for Tosin?

The window is closed mate.

 

[DiVaio]

Mate the club made the decision to extend their contracts to preserve a transfer value. It's on the club as much as the players.

But both Lloris and Dier extended their contract as their current was ending when they were clearly important players and in Spurs plans.
It's not like we extended contract for Lucas Moura when we had the option just to get 5m instead of letting him for free and now we are stuck with him

 

[UncleBuck]

What are the odds on Romero NOT getting a red card or accumulating yellows for a ban?

Don’t worry we can always catapult PEH in to cover….

 

[mdharris]

Levy never spends any money

*Levy literally just spent £47.5m on a player*

But It does feel like when we need to spend, and he does, he spends it really poorly. It would have been better spend a bit more and get Nico Williams, and fix the HG issue in another part of the pitch.

Note: “a bit” more re: Nico Williams. I’m not sure how large that bit would be

 

[Teemu]

Levy never spends any money

*Levy literally just spent £47.5m on a player*

Not Lloyd Kelly though