The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - THE HISTORY OF ITK EDITION 18th June 2015

[Archibald&Crooks]

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Morning all!

Today we delve back into this threads archives to bring you the history of ITK, first posted on the 2nd of August 2012………My laziness knows no bounds

THE HISTORY OF ITK

It is widely believed that the very first ITK was a man known as Judas Iscariot, who, as their handbook would have you believe, bubbled up Jesus by identifying him with a kiss. Modern day ITK's might well like to remember that Judas didn't come to a happy end.

After this ITK developed through the ages. In Roman times, ITK was given by public announcers in market squares, a tradition which continued for hundred of years. In fact King Richard IV once received some ITK famously proclaimed 'I Like not this message' and promptly had the poor Herald who brought the message shot by bow and arrow, given rise to the phrase, 'don't shoot the messenger'.

In 1745 an unknown ITK posted a parchment in the church noticeboard in the village of Upper Appleby that the villages best morris dancer, Josiah Felchalot had signed for local rivals Lower Appleby. In 1815, the Battle of Waterloo might have taken a different turn if Napoleon had not ignored ITK telling of British troop movements, claiming that the information was 'unverified'.

By the 20th century, ITK was advancing in leaps and bounds. During the Great War, pigeons were used to carry ITK and in fact it is said that a pigeon known as 'Speckled Bill' landed at the offices of the Stoke Evening Newspaper telling of the impending signing of Stanley Matthews. Sadly the Editor ignored it and lost a scoop, a mistake modern day editors are in no hurry to repeat, which is why they print absolutely everything.

The early 70's saw the emergence of possibly the greatest ITK of all time, a shadowy figure known only as 'Deepthroat', whose ITK was directly responsible for bringing about the Watergate scandal.

Today, ITK is concentrated more on football, with almost everyone having a nan at the airport, a friend who works in Hatton Garden or a cousin who works in the city. Info is passed through several hands and what might start as information saying Spurs are interested in Torres gets passed from one person, on to another and then another until it finally makes its way onto SC as 'Torres.....done deal'.

So remember, ITK has a long, chequered history and a very murky past. It has had some stunning successes, but for every success story there are many failures and today's ITK's are under the spotlight like never before. Cryptics, Typos, Misunderstandings................Where would we be if Richard IV's message contained a typo in latin? Worse, if Napoleon hadn't insisted on ignoring 'unverified' ITK? I tell you where........We'd be French and shooting messengers, now one isn't so bad but being French?

So to the ITK's out there I say this.......More spellchecker, less cryptics but either way, keep it coming. As @Bill_Oddie once said as he kneeled in the middle of a circle of 12 masturbating dwarves.

 

[whitechina]

Well that's the past- but to those brave souls in the present filling us with every emotion possible about the comings and goings from our wonderful club; I salute you all. Keep cover, don't get caught and long may we have our ITK

 

[GobbyJJ]

Very good history of ITK. Or is it just an elaborate cryptic?

 

[Flynn]

They weren't dwarfs. They were pygmys and that's itk..

 

[Bill_Oddie]

There were actually only eleven of them. The twelfth was just kneeling down.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

JJetset on Twitter in regards Kondogbia/Shelvey:

@JJetset : ha ha now they are just blatantly making stuff up!! shelvey too !!

 

[Insomnia]

Yedlin ITK is a bit worrying, Jurgen Klinnsman clearly rates him & yet some of our so called senior players have questioned his abillity it would seem? Bit confused about him to be honest, maybe pre season we'll get a better idea about him. Tippier will be a good solid signing imo though so it would be nice for our blue one to get his stamp out today

 

[cockerel downunder]

Thank goodness we can shelve that jonjo talk...

 

[codspur]

JJetset on Twitter in regards Kondogbia/Shelvey:

@JJetset : ha ha now they are just blatantly making stuff up!! shelvey too !!

I wouldnt mind Shelvey...I mean youare going to need someone to scare the kids away from breaking in to the building site when construction starts

 

[PT]

With a squad average age of 23 /24 and the senior elements largely on board with the way forward, I am wondering who the "senior players" are who see it their place to guide Poch strategy from the changing room.

 

[Mattspur]

With a squad average age of 23 /24 and the senior elements largely on board with the way forward, I am wondering who the "senior players" are who see it their place to guide Poch strategy from the changing room.

Yeah, you'd hope that the players don't have a say on who's in the team. Surely thats for the manager to decide.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

With a squad average age of 23 /24 and the senior elements largely on board with the way forward, I am wondering who the "senior players" are who see it their place to guide Poch strategy from the changing room.

Players who are generally not playing, generally not preferred, and generally cling at straws to still make them selves feel important and relevant.

 

[PT]

Players who are generally not playing, generally not preferred, and generally cling at straws to still make them selves feel important and relevant.

So you mean the players who our Coach would listen to for advice and guidance then?

 

[Spurger King]

So you mean the players who our Coach would listen to for advice and guidance then?

Could have been Brad before he left. The only other senior players I can imagine Pochettino listening to would be Lloris and Vertonghen.

I'd laugh if it was Ade.

 

[SHaRD]

With a squad average age of 23 /24 and the senior elements largely on board with the way forward, I am wondering who the "senior players" are who see it their place to guide Poch strategy from the changing room.

If you play in a squad and there's one player significantly below the rest ability-wise, it's hard to disguise frustration at that, no matter how good natured individuals are. Essentially people stop passing to them, or making runs when they have the ball, in training

In terms of who our senior players are - well Lloris, Verts, Fazio and Soldado are the only players around Poch's core 15/16 who are over 25 (Chadli is actually then next eldest). As Yedlin is a defender, you'd imagine it being Verts and Fazio who struggle to play alongside him

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

So you mean the players who our Coach would listen to for advice and guidance then?

No, that's a different matter entirely. I misunderstood you, I thought you meant players who feel entitled, not players who are actually trusted for advice.

 

[Spursidol]

Could have been Brad before he left. The only other senior players I can imagine Pochettino listening to would be Lloris and Vertonghen.

I'd laugh if it was Ade.

He could be the oldest left next season

 

[millsey]

Could have been Brad before he left. The only other senior players I can imagine Pochettino listening to would be Lloris and Vertonghen.

I'd laugh if it was Ade.

What won't listen to the vice captain of Spurs....

 

[Hoopspur]

JJetset on Twitter in regards Kondogbia/Shelvey:

@JJetset : ha ha now they are just blatantly making stuff up!! shelvey too !!

Now, Now, Now!!?
Lol! When haven't they blatantly just made things up? Sorry, I'm just answering this chronologically and I bet someone else has already said the same thing.....(and not having a go at the actual ITK!)

 

[WalkerboyUK]

If you play in a squad and there's one player significantly below the rest ability-wise, it's hard to disguise frustration at that, no matter how good natured individuals are. Essentially people stop passing to them, or making runs when they have the ball, in training

In terms of who our senior players are - well Lloris, Verts, Fazio and Soldado are the only players around Poch's core 15/16 who are over 25 (Chadli is actually then next eldest). As Yedlin is a defender, you'd imagine it being Verts and Fazio who struggle to play alongside him

My son had school sports day yesterday, and he's incredibly competitive - has to win, anything else and he's a miserable sod.
So as he's ploughing through all his bits fairly successfully yesterday, as the games progressed I could see him getting annoyed at the ones in his team who clearly couldn't give a toss about it, or who just weren't very good. If that's what some are like as kids when it's just a bit of fun, I can see how it can be an issue at a professional level.