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Ghost Hardware

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Apparently good source from inter. Also followed by Romano.

"#Tottenham on #Lautaro, #Conte wants him".

Me and #Conte share the same passion: #Inter players.

Only I like them at #Inter. [As the journalist is an Inter fan and their version of Ally Gold]

This guy is Inters number 1 ITK and mouthpiece. Regarding Inter players I’d listen.

Lautaro would be a dream signing. Even tho he’s not tall he’s fantastic in the air. Also, for those that like stats, no other player won the ball back in the final third more then Lautaro last season in Seria A. He’s a hard worker.
 
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StanSpur

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I don't like us dealing with Inter but if they need to raise the money by the end of the month its not such a bad thing. It means we can try for someone like Martinez until then and move on after. As long we have good alternatives lined up to pull the trigger once the month is over if we haven't made a deal with Inter.
Definitely worth a shot given the talent of Martinez and Bastoni but it will just invite the chelsea's and others to the table. Frankly Bayern would b better off dropping the chase of Mane if liverpool want 40m and going after Martinez for 60-70
 

Ghost Hardware

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What would make sense to me, if Bastoni really is off the table, is do a semi swap for Torres and use the rest of the funds we would have spent on Bastoni on Lautaro if Inter are open to selling him. I still think they will need to get rid of one of those two.
 

Rob

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OK, I'm really sorry because I feel pretty dumb

Usually I just check the ITK forum, but the latest one in there from Hercules has confused me. What on earth does "evenidign" mean? I assume it's a typo because I actually googled it in case it was a player I hadn't heard of.
The Rosetta Stone for Herc translations is look at your keyboard and imagine you had big sausage fingers :p
 

wishkah

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it's random ITK time -

as i've said somewhere on here before, football has left me with a few injuries that i'm slowly getting long-term fixes for. this has lead me to a really darn good physio whom also privately treats a number of chelsea players - and a few spurs ones.

our interesting chat today was about the use of gyms at football clubs. Physios think they are vital for recovery and prevention of injury. if you have an issue / fix he believes in overloading that muscle/tendon/area with weight to increase bloodflow and make the area stronger than ever. Sadly, it seems, football clubs do not. Many football managers believe an hour in the gym is an an hour that is better spent on the field getting better technically or tactically. As footballers are not powerlifters they see anything over bodyweight as a waste of time.

To that affect: Sarri closed the gym at chelsea, lampard said it was optional, and conte keeps it open, but you go at your own will outside of allocated time. Conte believes in hard sprints at the end of the sessions which are peferect if your in good health (shocks the muscles, stretches tendons) but is damaging if you have niggles. Said conte and mouriho were big on getting players to play at 80% and not really letting them recover. Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.

Two players in specific were mentioned (out of interest more than anything). Ruben loftus cheek is so worried about how chelsea are not letting his achillies recover that he's asked his agent to move to another london club. aparently he needs a few months of strength training (which means he can't run much) but chelsea are refusing. he can't even stand on his tip toes on his left leg and the moment and is 'running from his hips rather than his calves'.

also that dele is an absolute machine. he posts huge energy metrics via his muscles and is in great shape. that said, he's very worried about him as he had a messed up childhood. really thinks he needs help, but is a lovely boy.

take all of that with a pinch of salt, but i thought it was interesting. and for those who are concerned i need to have my plantarus? removed.
 
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Timberwolf

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Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.
Found this part quite surprising. You'd think given the amount of money in the game all the top clubs would have the very best of the best physios - it's not like they're on crazy money so shouldn't be that hard to get a team of elite physios, should it?
 

COYS1988

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it's random ITK time -

as i've said somewhere on here before, football has left me with a few injuries that i'm slowly getting long-term fixes for. this has lead me to a really darn good physio whom also privately treats a number of chelsea players - and a few spurs ones.

our interesting chat today was about the use of gyms at football clubs. Physios think they are vital for recovery and prevention of injury. if you have an issue / fix he believes in overloading that muscle/tendon/area with weight to increase bloodflow and make the area stronger than ever. Sadly, it seems, football clubs do not. Many football managers believe an hour in the gym is an an hour that is better spent on the field getting better technically or tactically. As footballers are not powerlifters they see anything over bodyweight as a waste of time.

To that affect: Sarri closed the gym at chelsea, lampard said it was optional, and conte keeps it open, but you go at your own will outside of allocated time. Conte believes in hard sprints at the end of the sessions which are peferect if your in good health (shocks the muscles, stretches tendons) but is damaging if you have niggles. Said conte and mouriho were big on getting players to play at 80% and not really letting them recover. Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.

Two players in specific were mentioned (out of interest more than anything). Ruben loftus cheek is so worried about how chelsea are not letting his achillies recover that he's asked his agent to move to another london club. aparently he needs a few months of strength training (which means he can't run much) but chelsea are refusing. he can't even stand on his tip toes on his left leg and the moment and is 'running from his hips rather than his calves'.

also that dele is an absolute machine. he posts huge energy metrics via his muscles and is in great shape. that said, he's very worried about him as he had a messed up childhood. really thinks he needs help, but is a lovely boy.

take all of that with a pinch of salt, but i thought it was interesting. and for those who are concerned i need to have my plantarus? removed.



Said that at chelsea Sa
Fascinating post. Thanks for sharing
 

ParkySpur

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it's random ITK time -

as i've said somewhere on here before, football has left me with a few injuries that i'm slowly getting long-term fixes for. this has lead me to a really darn good physio whom also privately treats a number of chelsea players - and a few spurs ones.

our interesting chat today was about the use of gyms at football clubs. Physios think they are vital for recovery and prevention of injury. if you have an issue / fix he believes in overloading that muscle/tendon/area with weight to increase bloodflow and make the area stronger than ever. Sadly, it seems, football clubs do not. Many football managers believe an hour in the gym is an an hour that is better spent on the field getting better technically or tactically. As footballers are not powerlifters they see anything over bodyweight as a waste of time.

To that affect: Sarri closed the gym at chelsea, lampard said it was optional, and conte keeps it open, but you go at your own will outside of allocated time. Conte believes in hard sprints at the end of the sessions which are peferect if your in good health (shocks the muscles, stretches tendons) but is damaging if you have niggles. Said conte and mouriho were big on getting players to play at 80% and not really letting them recover. Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.

Two players in specific were mentioned (out of interest more than anything). Ruben loftus cheek is so worried about how chelsea are not letting his achillies recover that he's asked his agent to move to another london club. aparently he needs a few months of strength training (which means he can't run much) but chelsea are refusing. he can't even stand on his tip toes on his left leg and the moment and is 'running from his hips rather than his calves'.

also that dele is an absolute machine. he posts huge energy metrics via his muscles and is in great shape. that said, he's very worried about him as he had a messed up childhood. really thinks he needs help, but is a lovely boy.

take all of that with a pinch of salt, but i thought it was interesting. and for those who are concerned i need to have my plantarus? removed.



Said that at chelsea Sa
I can’t speak too much about Chelsea, but as a Physio myself with a number of friends in the football world, I can confirm that most top teams’ Physios are actually very highly qualified and skilled Physio’s. I worked with Matt Davies a number of years ago, who is one of Spurs’ first team Physios now. Top notch Physio. Likewise, good friends with one of the West Ham first team Physios (I know I know), also excellent Physio and the Head Physios and teams in general need to be at the forefront of research and updates etc.
It is true though that managers can completely ignore physio’s advice though.
 

Dakes

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it's random ITK time -

as i've said somewhere on here before, football has left me with a few injuries that i'm slowly getting long-term fixes for. this has lead me to a really darn good physio whom also privately treats a number of chelsea players - and a few spurs ones.

our interesting chat today was about the use of gyms at football clubs. Physios think they are vital for recovery and prevention of injury. if you have an issue / fix he believes in overloading that muscle/tendon/area with weight to increase bloodflow and make the area stronger than ever. Sadly, it seems, football clubs do not. Many football managers believe an hour in the gym is an an hour that is better spent on the field getting better technically or tactically. As footballers are not powerlifters they see anything over bodyweight as a waste of time.

To that affect: Sarri closed the gym at chelsea, lampard said it was optional, and conte keeps it open, but you go at your own will outside of allocated time. Conte believes in hard sprints at the end of the sessions which are peferect if your in good health (shocks the muscles, stretches tendons) but is damaging if you have niggles. Said conte and mouriho were big on getting players to play at 80% and not really letting them recover. Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.

Two players in specific were mentioned (out of interest more than anything). Ruben loftus cheek is so worried about how chelsea are not letting his achillies recover that he's asked his agent to move to another london club. aparently he needs a few months of strength training (which means he can't run much) but chelsea are refusing. he can't even stand on his tip toes on his left leg and the moment and is 'running from his hips rather than his calves'.

also that dele is an absolute machine. he posts huge energy metrics via his muscles and is in great shape. that said, he's very worried about him as he had a messed up childhood. really thinks he needs help, but is a lovely boy.

take all of that with a pinch of salt, but i thought it was interesting. and for those who are concerned i need to have my plantarus? removed.
Fascinating insight. The most interesting post I've read on the site for a while. Thanks yo!
 

freeeki

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it's random ITK time -

as i've said somewhere on here before, football has left me with a few injuries that i'm slowly getting long-term fixes for. this has lead me to a really darn good physio whom also privately treats a number of chelsea players - and a few spurs ones.

our interesting chat today was about the use of gyms at football clubs. Physios think they are vital for recovery and prevention of injury. if you have an issue / fix he believes in overloading that muscle/tendon/area with weight to increase bloodflow and make the area stronger than ever. Sadly, it seems, football clubs do not. Many football managers believe an hour in the gym is an an hour that is better spent on the field getting better technically or tactically. As footballers are not powerlifters they see anything over bodyweight as a waste of time.

To that affect: Sarri closed the gym at chelsea, lampard said it was optional, and conte keeps it open, but you go at your own will outside of allocated time. Conte believes in hard sprints at the end of the sessions which are peferect if your in good health (shocks the muscles, stretches tendons) but is damaging if you have niggles. Said conte and mouriho were big on getting players to play at 80% and not really letting them recover. Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.

Two players in specific were mentioned (out of interest more than anything). Ruben loftus cheek is so worried about how chelsea are not letting his achillies recover that he's asked his agent to move to another london club. aparently he needs a few months of strength training (which means he can't run much) but chelsea are refusing. he can't even stand on his tip toes on his left leg and the moment and is 'running from his hips rather than his calves'.

also that dele is an absolute machine. he posts huge energy metrics via his muscles and is in great shape. that said, he's very worried about him as he had a messed up childhood. really thinks he needs help, but is a lovely boy.

take all of that with a pinch of salt, but i thought it was interesting. and for those who are concerned i need to have my plantarus? removed.

You are Darren Anderton, and I claim my five pounds.
 

ParkySpur

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it's random ITK time -

as i've said somewhere on here before, football has left me with a few injuries that i'm slowly getting long-term fixes for. this has lead me to a really darn good physio whom also privately treats a number of chelsea players - and a few spurs ones.

our interesting chat today was about the use of gyms at football clubs. Physios think they are vital for recovery and prevention of injury. if you have an issue / fix he believes in overloading that muscle/tendon/area with weight to increase bloodflow and make the area stronger than ever. Sadly, it seems, football clubs do not. Many football managers believe an hour in the gym is an an hour that is better spent on the field getting better technically or tactically. As footballers are not powerlifters they see anything over bodyweight as a waste of time.

To that affect: Sarri closed the gym at chelsea, lampard said it was optional, and conte keeps it open, but you go at your own will outside of allocated time. Conte believes in hard sprints at the end of the sessions which are peferect if your in good health (shocks the muscles, stretches tendons) but is damaging if you have niggles. Said conte and mouriho were big on getting players to play at 80% and not really letting them recover. Also that club physios are generally a bit shite, do what they are told, and are usually failed players rather than industry pro's. Hence a lot of players sneak off and get their own physios at the request of their agents.

Two players in specific were mentioned (out of interest more than anything). Ruben loftus cheek is so worried about how chelsea are not letting his achillies recover that he's asked his agent to move to another london club. aparently he needs a few months of strength training (which means he can't run much) but chelsea are refusing. he can't even stand on his tip toes on his left leg and the moment and is 'running from his hips rather than his calves'.

also that dele is an absolute machine. he posts huge energy metrics via his muscles and is in great shape. that said, he's very worried about him as he had a messed up childhood. really thinks he needs help, but is a lovely boy.

take all of that with a pinch of salt, but i thought it was interesting. and for those who are concerned i need to have my plantarus? removed.
Oh, and Plantaris removal sounds painful. Achilles issues?
 

wishkah

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I can’t speak too much about Chelsea, but as a Physio myself with a number of friends in the football world, I can confirm that most top teams’ Physios are actually very highly qualified and skilled Physio’s. I worked with Matt Davies a number of years ago, who is one of Spurs’ first team Physios now. Top notch Physio. Likewise, good friends with one of the West Ham first team Physios (I know I know), also excellent Physio and the Head Physios and teams in general need to be at the forefront of research and updates etc.
It is true though that managers can completely ignore physio’s advice though.
You are likely right. I think his anger was directed at Chelsea and the fact Ruben,Kante,Mount, and Rudiger all see him privately and hide it from the club.
I also would assume he’s looking at it from a purely medical POV and doesn’t have to balance the need of actually having players available for games. He’s probably have half the team permanently on the treatment table.

thanks for the response though. Very interesting
 

oobaties

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My physio here in Belfast is fantastic and used to be the physio at Arsenal. He's back home now and works with Ireland and Ulster Rugby. He is pretty much the go to sports physio on the island. I also have a mate who is a physio and massive Leeds fan. His dream job is to work for Leeds but said the quality of candidates you're up against is insanely good. Sounds like Chelsea just have shit physios.
 

Wick3d

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I can’t speak too much about Chelsea, but as a Physio myself with a number of friends in the football world, I can confirm that most top teams’ Physios are actually very highly qualified and skilled Physio’s. I worked with Matt Davies a number of years ago, who is one of Spurs’ first team Physios now. Top notch Physio. Likewise, good friends with one of the West Ham first team Physios (I know I know), also excellent Physio and the Head Physios and teams in general need to be at the forefront of research and updates etc.
It is true though that managers can completely ignore physio’s advice though.
That is the probably the biggest problem. Trust the medical professions, if not, at least get a second or third opinion. The clubs can afford that much at the very least!
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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I can’t speak too much about Chelsea, but as a Physio myself with a number of friends in the football world, I can confirm that most top teams’ Physios are actually very highly qualified and skilled Physio’s. I worked with Matt Davies a number of years ago, who is one of Spurs’ first team Physios now. Top notch Physio. Likewise, good friends with one of the West Ham first team Physios (I know I know), also excellent Physio and the Head Physios and teams in general need to be at the forefront of research and updates etc.
It is true though that managers can completely ignore physio’s advice though.

I can second this. Not a physio myself but I have a family member who is a PL physio at Chelsea funnily enough.

They are unbelievably skilled, qualified and dedicated. Everything you've said above is true.
 
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