The Clear Out Poll

[Vwbottom]

I disagree Leeds don’t have technical players- they do and it showed, allied to their fitness, workrate and patterns of course.

Lloris and Toby played well, and are not part of the immediate problem. Rodon and Reggie need time. Davies decent squad player.

Dier, Aurier, Doherty and Sanchez, along with Winks, Sissoko, Lamela and Dele do not do their main jobs properly. These must be first out the door, after Rose and Vinny.

Aarons, Klosterman and Sabitzer in,along with Skipp and Sess coming back.

This renewal process will need a second summer too, when we likely use the Kane money, and it’ll probably be time for Hugo and Toby to go home

Well drilled average team against headless chicken team full of international players.

 

[daveduvet]

Why are we so quick to dismiss our players? - Well, the short answer is easy. Sissoko

But generally speaking I think you're right, we don't give players time to come good and make snap judgements based on relatively few games. But I think a number of the current squad have had a fair crack and as I said a few months ago, these are all good players on their day, they just don't have that day often enough. I think we've seen the majority of them enough to see that. I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of these gone but at the same time I understand that it's unlikely to happen like that and that from that list, it's probably reasonable to expect two or three departures at best, four if Levy has been on the whizz when the bids come in, so the odds are that most of them will get another go at it under the next fall guy anyway.

Yea, not wrong. Coupled with finances being tight. Maybe January 22 window will be busier than this summer?

 

[mill]

This will be Levy's biggest summer, because he's going to have to find clubs that are prepared to take all of the shite at any cost, and there is a lot of shite. He'll have to adopt a fire sale, just to try and get some momentum.

Maybe Redknapp will take a few to eastenders with him

 

[slartibartfast]

Christ its a long list.
I ended up with 10.
Hart. No explanation necessary.
Rose. No explanation necessary.
Dier. No explanation necessary.
Sanchez. No explanation necessary.
Aurier. No explanation necessary.
Doherty. No explanation necessary.
GLC. Not good enough imo.
Ndombele. Lazy. Whoever scouted him should also go.
Winks. No explanation necessary.
Vinicious (think he's ok but they want a ridiculous fee for him).
Thats a depressingly long list.
Then theres the maybes.
Lamela. Always injured but good squad player.
Bergwijn. Never plays more than 5 mins.
Dele. I'd see what new coach gets out of him.
Moura. Keep. Runs through walls and gives 100% always.
Foyth. Get him back and play him at rb.
Sessegnon. Get him back and see how he goes. We know theres a good player there. Shite under Jose but thats a given.

 

[Beni]

A lot of those are potentially very good (GLC, Ndombele, Bergwijn) so do you suggest going back to proven young premier League players rather than potentially top tier players who are currently at second tier clubs (e.g Lyon, PSV, Betis) because we are not going to attract top tier players now

No, they’re on my ‘If we get a decent offer’ list. Meaning I would keep them but if some club offer a lot of money for them, then we should consider it.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Looking at it next year if we kick out a lot

GK’s
Hugo
Hart
Whiteman

Rb’s

Cb’s
Toby
Rodon (could do with a loan)
Dier (nobody will want him)
Sanchez (maybe if the new manager wants).
Tanganga

LB
Davies
Reguillon
Sessegeon

Defensive Midfielders
Hojbjerg
Skipp
(Dier)

Number 8’s
GLC
Tanguy

Right wing
Bale (if we extend)
Bergwijn

Attacking Midfielders
Alli

Left wing
Son
(Sessegeon)

Striker
Kane
Scarlett

Out the door with the above would be
Sissoko
Winks
Moura
Lamela
Aurier
Doherty
(80 million at max)

Maybe
Sanchez
Dier
Further 40 million at a push

Kane

Loan
Tanganga
Rodon

Looking at it that way we need

2 x RB (Lamptey, Celik, Aarons, KWP) - 50 million on right backs

2 x CB (Skriniar, Vestegaard, Tarkowski, etc) 80 on centre backs

2 x centre midfielders (JWP, Neves, Bissouma) 50 at least on midfielders

1 x left winger - (chukwese) 30 million here again

1 x Attacking midfielder (Sabitzer) 30 here again at least

1 x Striker (Ings, Toney) 25/30 here again

You are talking almost 220 million plus to fix our squad and there is only one way we are doing that and its if we sell Harry.

Asking the club at least to shell out 150 million after a pandemic its not going to happen.

Instead we need to think more smart

 

[Metalhead]

Christ its a long list.
I ended up with 10.
Hart. No explanation necessary.
Rose. No explanation necessary.
Dier. No explanation necessary.
Sanchez. No explanation necessary.
Aurier. No explanation necessary.
Doherty. No explanation necessary.
GLC. Not good enough imo.
Ndombele. Lazy. Whoever scouted him should also go.
Winks. No explanation necessary.
Vinicious (think he's ok but they want a ridiculous fee for him).
Thats a depressingly long list.
Then theres the maybes.
Lamela. Always injured but good squad player.
Bergwijn. Never plays more than 5 mins.
Dele. I'd see what new coach gets out of him.
Moura. Keep. Runs through walls and gives 100% always.
Foyth. Get him back and play him at rb.
Sessegnon. Get him back and see how he goes. We know theres a good player there. Shite under Jose but thats a given.

No Sissoko?

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Looking at it next year if we kick out a lot

GK’s
Hugo
Hart
Whiteman

Rb’s

Cb’s
Toby
Rodon (could do with a loan)
Dier (nobody will want him)
Sanchez (maybe if the new manager wants).
Tanganga

LB
Davies
Reguillon
Sessegeon

Defensive Midfielders
Hojbjerg
Skipp
(Dier)

Number 8’s
GLC
Tanguy

Right wing
Bale (if we extend)
Bergwijn

Attacking Midfielders
Alli

Left wing
Son
(Sessegeon)

Striker
Kane
Scarlett

Out the door with the above would be
Sissoko
Winks
Moura
Lamela
Aurier
Doherty
(80 million at max)

Maybe
Sanchez
Dier
Further 40 million at a push

Kane

Loan
Tanganga
Rodon

Looking at it that way we need

2 x RB (Lamptey, Celik, Aarons, KWP) - 50 million on right backs

2 x CB (Skriniar, Vestegaard, Tarkowski, etc) 80 on centre backs

2 x centre midfielders (JWP, Neves, Bissouma) 50 at least on midfielders

1 x left winger - (chukwese) 30 million here again

1 x Attacking midfielder (Sabitzer) 30 here again at least

1 x Striker (Ings, Toney) 25/30 here again

You are talking almost 220 million plus to fix our squad and there is only one way we are doing that and its if we sell Harry.

Asking the club at least to shell out 150 million after a pandemic its not going to happen.

Instead we need to think more smart

I forgot we can half solve the right back position if we haven't put an option on Foyth however he does have injury problems

 

[slartibartfast]

No Sissoko?

Oops lol.
11. Sissoko.

 

[panoma]

Just hope we manage to keep Kane here..

 

[Hazelton]

Realistically, as much as everyone wants to get rid of half the squad, the only absolute must-leaves are those who have been here and failed under multiple managers for multiple seasons. Dier, Winks, Sanchez and Sissoko have to be top of the list. Rose is dead weight anyway. Davies can probably be replaced by Sessegnon. For the rest I think you have to choose between one out of two, so for example Aurier or Doherty have to go but not both because we're not going to sign two rightbacks and Lucas or Lamela have to go if we sign another forward.

For me, I would get rid of Dier, Sissoko, Winks, Doherty (age), Sanchez, Davies, Rose and Lamela (contract + easy to sell to Italy imo). Sessegnon and Skipp replace two of those anyway so we'd need a CB, a young RB, a CM and another forward.

 

[Beni]

Realistically, as much as everyone wants to get rid of half the squad, the only absolute must-leaves are those who have been here and failed under multiple managers for multiple seasons. Dier, Winks, Sanchez and Sissoko have to be top of the list. Rose is dead weight anyway. Davies can probably be replaced by Sessegnon. For the rest I think you have to choose between one out of two, so for example Aurier or Doherty have to go but not both because we're not going to sign two rightbacks and Lucas or Lamela have to go if we sign another forward.

For me, I would get rid of Dier, Sissoko, Winks, Doherty (age), Sanchez, Davies, Rose and Lamela (contract + easy to sell to Italy imo). Sessegnon and Skipp replace two of those anyway so we'd need a CB, a young RB, a CM and another forward.

The key is to get rid of the players even if on loan for small fee and then an agree to purchase fee. Or the players we want to bring in, look at the players we need rid of and use as an option for player exchange and taking money off our purchase fee i.e. Hojbjerg and KWP scenario.

 

[Monkey boy]

Poor Sissoko, up over 90%! Bless. He does mean well. But... yeah.
Yet, Rose, the cheeky chappy he only sits at 40%!!

isn’t that because Rose is out of contract so will be gone anyway?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

isn’t that because Rose is out of contract so will be gone anyway?

Yeah he's a bit of a pointless addition to the poll really. Already absolutely nothing to do with the playing side of things & his contract runs out in about 7 weeks.

He's gone, no matter what.

 

[slartibartfast]

Yeah he's a bit of a pointless addition to the poll really. Already absolutely nothing to do with the playing side of things & his contract runs out in about 7 weeks.

He's gone, no matter what.

Too late for an extension? ?

 

[Tucker]

Anyone who voted to get rid of Kane should be permabanned.

 

[mr ashley]

Looking at it next year if we kick out a lot

GK’s
Hugo
Hart
Whiteman

Rb’s

Cb’s
Toby
Rodon (could do with a loan)
Dier (nobody will want him)
Sanchez (maybe if the new manager wants).
Tanganga

LB
Davies
Reguillon
Sessegeon

Defensive Midfielders
Hojbjerg
Skipp
(Dier)

Number 8’s
GLC
Tanguy

Right wing
Bale (if we extend)
Bergwijn

Attacking Midfielders
Alli

Left wing
Son
(Sessegeon)

Striker
Kane
Scarlett

Out the door with the above would be
Sissoko
Winks
Moura
Lamela
Aurier
Doherty
(80 million at max)

Maybe
Sanchez
Dier
Further 40 million at a push

Kane

Loan
Tanganga
Rodon

Looking at it that way we need

2 x RB (Lamptey, Celik, Aarons, KWP) - 50 million on right backs

2 x CB (Skriniar, Vestegaard, Tarkowski, etc) 80 on centre backs

2 x centre midfielders (JWP, Neves, Bissouma) 50 at least on midfielders

1 x left winger - (chukwese) 30 million here again

1 x Attacking midfielder (Sabitzer) 30 here again at least

1 x Striker (Ings, Toney) 25/30 here again

You are talking almost 220 million plus to fix our squad and there is only one way we are doing that and its if we sell Harry.

Asking the club at least to shell out 150 million after a pandemic its not going to happen.

Instead we need to think more smart

When you look at our squad, it seems clear that the system that will suit our defence best is a back 3.
Tobys lack of pace can be covered.
Sanchez’s lack of passing can be eased
Davies and Tanganga can be added as lcb & rcb respectively.
Aurier, Reguilon, sessegnon and even Doherty also are all better going forward than back.
Even foyth could be useful.
Whether or not it would get the best out of players like Ndombele, lo celso bale and dele remains to be seen. But you can argue that none of the systems we’ve used this season have either.

One thing is for sure. Dier winks and sissoko must go. Lamela should too, and whilst I’d be ok with retaining bale I’ve seen very little of Vinicius to suggest he’s worth signing permanently.

 

[wrd]

There's going to be a stark difference in who we "want" to sell and who we "need" to sell in order to be able to build a team capable of putting out a team of 11 players to build a system upon. They're almost entirely different conversations.

There's going to be some players who most of us are fans of that need to be sold in order to rebuild that midfield for a start.

 

[Tucker]

A massive turnover of players just isn’t going to happen. People hoping for that are going to be really disappointed.

Like others have said, we will need to be smart and make do in certain positions.

if we can get good money for Lamela or Lucas I’d allow one or possibly both to leave. We are relatively well stocked in their positions, but they are also both versatile players who can have a positive affect on games. We wouldn’t need to replace whoever leaves, we aren’t likely going to be in Europe so we won’t need that big of a squad.

With Skipp coming back we will be relatively well covered in midfield too, if we can get a few quid for Sissoko and or Winks then by all means let them move on. Again, I’m not sure either need replacing if we don’t qualify for Europe.

Defence is where the real surgery is needed. We should do our very best to shift Dier on. If we can find someone to give us over £10-15 million for him I’d bite their hand off. A deal to move Foyth on to Villarreal should be easy to do too. Rodon should be given his chance to stake a claim for a place in the team, as should Tanganga.

Aside from Doherty, I don’t see too much wrong with out full backs. Both Reguilon and Aurier are good going forward, and with a settled well organised defence they will both look better. Davies is a fine back up/ rotation option. If we can get any of the money back for Doherty we should bite their hand off.

We’ll need to replace him though, and we desperately need a cool head at centre back to compete with Rodon, Toby and Tanganga. I’ve no idea who, but any player sales should be invested in defence before any other positions are even considered.

We don’t need to fuck around with the goalies right now either, unless one of them decides to leave.

So, I’d look at selling four to five of our fringe players, and bring in two quality options at right back and central defence. We also have to decide what to do for back up at striker. Vinicius seems to be nowhere near the first team, so it’s obvious we won’t be taking up our option to buy him. We will need to do something there, but frankly our defence should be the top priority.

 

[Aphex]

Yeah I am already resigned to the likes of Dier being here as I don't see who is going to make a bid for him which is really depressing.

Hopefully we manage to sell Winks and Sissoko. I think Lamela will leave.

Aurier contract is up in two years isn't it? Imagine we will try to sell this summer. Doherty shouldn't have been signed in the first place.

Levy is going to have to work some magic, I have no faith he will.