Good point. Ramos knows what it takes to break into the top 4 of an elite league, Jol didn't
To say that Jol didn't know how to break into the top 4 but Ramos did is strange since they both asked for the same type of signing - experienced defenders .
Jol getting given Kaboule and Ramos Woodgate and Gilberto only shows that Ramos stands a better chance of actually getting the tools he needs .
I respect Ramos for saving Robinson's blushes and prefer his management style of maintaining a distance from his charges .
He has got the boys doing a good job of not allowing the opposition to settle but we are not yet playing any better than during the last 12 matches of last season .
Judge Jol on his record , not on what he might or might not have achieved had he been given time and had the support of his superiors which he clearly didn't at any time this season .