Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Neon_Knight_]

I do wonder if that is partly based on the fact that you probably watch Spurs more than other teams?

Lloris had a poor 17/18-season in terms of high profile errors, I was as frustrated as any, but I would like to see stats showing he is in general error prone. Especially considering his very aggressive style early on in his career.

His style is at least occasionally a bit clumsy. Like that one cross against Leicester - so my hypothesis is that he looks "worse" than he is in terms of making errors.

The stats for 2019-20 show that he prevented more expected goals than any other keeper in the league. Saving numerous shots that most keepers would have failed to save more than compensates for the two errors he made.
Alisson, Ederson and Kepa all under-performed compared to the number of saves an average PL keeper would be expected to save.

I believe de Gea was top for this stat in 2018-19, but Lloris fared well. Both are heavily criticised at times for making 2-3 obvious mistakes each season, but they consistently outperform most keepers in the league when you really delve into their overall contribution, instead of focusing only on the number of mistakes. That would be like judging an attacking player on failing to score 2-3 sitters, while ignoring that they created numerous goals from nothing and converted numerous shots that most players would have missed / not even attempted.
EDIT: Lloris has made 13 errors that led to goals in the PL during his 8 years - that's only 1.6 per season.

During his first couple of seasons with us, Lloris was criticised for conceding a few goals by coming off his line when he shouldn't have. However, most people completely overlooked that Lloris had the best success rate in Europe in sweeping and one-on-one situations - by a ridiculous margin (I can't find the article, but it was something like 98% success compared to an average of 55% for the average keeper in the top 5 leagues) and prevented many goal scoring opportunities from arising in the first place. He was constantly put in those situations because we were using a system with a very high line (dependent upon a sweeper keeper) that our outfield players were in the process of learning (and weren't all suited to - Kaboul, Dawson etc.).

 

[jay2040]

Vertonghens “data” wasn’t in gradual decline it was sudden and then free fall.
What makes you think offering HL a new deal which would take him into his late 30’s represents value?

Just because he hasn’t asked to leave doesn’t mean we build a shrine and offer him a life time contract.

Bit silly comparing a defender to a GK!

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

If Mourinho wants him to stick around, who are we to say that Lloris shouldn't have a new contract.

 

[ralvy]

Vertonghens “data” wasn’t in gradual decline it was sudden and then free fall.
What makes you think offering HL a new deal which would take him into his late 30’s represents value?

Just because he hasn’t asked to leave doesn’t mean we build a shrine and offer him a life time contract.

I think when it comes to players of the caliber of Kane and Lloris, who additionally have remained more loyal to their club than anyone would have expected (or their agents would have wished and recommended), that their actual value to their club is more about how long they can remain competitive and focused in serving their club.

Also, just because Vertonghen's decline wasn't gradual doesn't mean that Hugo's wont be.

And also, a three years extension and a pay raise is hardly a lifetime contract and a shrine building. But maybe I did overplayed it a bit and we should only be looking to offering him a 2 years extension and a pay raise.

 

[TPdYID]

Bit silly comparing a defender to a GK!

It was more an age vs decline marker.

Sorry if it appeared “silly” though Jamie.

 

[longtimespur]

I wouldn't be surprised for him to be given a new contract and then go into the coaching squad. He's surely looked upon as one of the best goalkeepers of the modern era and has also been club captain for some time.
It would be fully justified for my way of thinking.

 

[double0]

I am so conflicted when it comes to Lloris on form he is up there with the very best in world football however he does make some dumbfounded mistakes and the mistakes stick in the mind but when you take in overall Lloris shades more positively.

 

[wirE]

Obscure sources on Twitter (Football Insider) are claiming that Spurs have opened preliminary talks about renewing Hugo’s contract.

if true, fantastic news.

 

[yankspurs]

Obscure sources on Twitter (Football Insider) are claiming that Spurs have opened preliminary talks about renewing Hugo’s contract.

if true, fantastic news.

Good

 

[Finchyid]

Think it was mentioned in here a couple of weeks ago

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Werent there some melons on here suggesting that he would be sold this summer a few months back.

He has been excellent since the reutrn, deserves a new contract.

 

[yankspurs]

Werent there some melons on here suggesting that he would be sold this summer a few months back.

He has been excellent since the reutrn, deserves a new contract.

I think he was still a top keeper. With Poch, he was asked to do alot. At some point, mistakes will be made. With Jose, hes only being asked to stop shots. We’ve cut out the sweeper keeping, which is why Jose gave Hart a new lease on life in the Prem and probably why Hart thought of us as a decent option for him to compete for a place.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Im guessing lloris has been training with him this week

Breaking | Steve Mandanda has tested positive for COVID-19 from inside Clairefontaine & will return home immediately - this also throws a massive spanner in the works for the French national team in terms of possible additional infections. More follows.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Joe Hart vs Everton then...??

 

[ralvy]

Joe Hart vs Everton then...??

So, has Joe Hart relegated Gazzaniga to third keeper?

 

[TropicalYid]

Oh come on...Lloris is still one of the best keepers around.

 

[yankspurs]

Im guessing lloris has been training with him this week

Breaking | Steve Mandanda has tested positive for COVID-19 from inside Clairefontaine & will return home immediately - this also throws a massive spanner in the works for the French national team in terms of possible additional infections. More follows.

This is why international competition should not be taking place.

 

[punkisback]

This is why international competition should not be taking place.

Surprised he’s still in the French squad! Steve that is.

 

[Montalbano]

Now Mbappé has tested positive for COVID-19. I’ll be fuming if Hugo gets it and can’t feature this weekend.

 

[DiVaio]

Now Mbappé has tested positive for COVID-19. I’ll be fuming if Hugo gets it and can’t feature this weekend.

Hugo wasn't positive though