Player Watch: Erik Lamela

[VegasII]

One thing is for certain: Lamela will be a Spurs player until at least the summer.

It’s pointless to make a verdict now when there are so many games to play this season. If he maintains his fitness and continues performing as he has, he’ll be here next season imo. If he misses the majority of them through injury, then I can see him being auctioned off.

 

[Bulletspur]

Yeah. I realize that Vinicius quite simply had to be given a chance tonight, and that neither of Son, Kane and Dele could be moved to make room for him for different reasons, so it was really unfortunate that Lamela had to be the one being sacrificed. However, in doing so, we pretty much became unable to keep competing with Everton, but I really can't blame Mourinho for that.

Argue that Lamela had to come off because he was spent. But to argue that he had to come off in order to accomodate an ineffective Dele is just plain daft.

 

[Bulletspur]

Go back five years or so into my posts where you will see I am one of a few of us who had always backed Lamela through thick or thin, even when he had his double hip replacement. As one poster just said, even if he played 30%of a game, the amount of effort and effect he has on a game, is a lot of times more than what some others do who play the whole 90 minutes. When fit, he will always be in my 1st eleven.

 

[Mattspurs1982]

He was superb last night. And vs WBA

 

[Goobers]

Good performance
We could do with a few stepping up for the second half of the season

 

[That Wanyama Goal]

Lamela adds to our squad 95% of the time he's on the pitch. Last night he was sublime. His injury record isn't annoying- it's heartbreaking. He is Spurs to his fucking core. I'm sorry but I'd rather have a player who gives everything he's fucking got every single second he's on the pitch- even if it's for only 30% of our matches- than a player who is rarely injured but goes in and out of games. He is one of the few men on our squad that doesn't just "do good things" but rather "changes the entire complexion of a match." I honestly think some of our players up their game when he plays simply because if they didn't, their lack of desire and graft would be so obvious, so apparent. His pass to Kane at Barcelona- the proverbial "assist before the assist"- made that Champions League run happen. Despite the injuries, I fucking love the guy. No- we shouldn't get rid of him. As someone else said there about twelve players I'd off before him for God's sake.

Dude is a straight-up warrior. Look, I'm as put off by how many games he's missed as anyone else but I'm sorry: he bleeds Navy Blue and White- and yes that counts for something, particularly in an era in which loyalty practically doesn't exist, particularly for those without any sort of boyhood connection to the club. He is Spurs through and through; call me sentimental but I adore that.

He took his goal well and was lively last night, we lost though and conceded 5 goals in the process.
Work rate and effort is great but if the quality isn’t up to scratch it really doesn’t matter. That’s the point I at least was trying to put across on my comments about Lamela.
I don’t know what evidence you have which makes you so sure he a die hard Spurs man through and through. I suspect had he shown more promise and quality over the years then he would’ve had clubs interested to sign him?
Then to call him a warrior? Was he a warrior when he got Martial sent off this season or was that unsportsmanlike? I get the whole “that’s just how the game is nowadays” but makes calling him a warrior a little silly to me.

 

[TwanYid]

He took his goal well and was lively last night, we lost though and conceded 5 goals in the process.
Work rate and effort is great but if the quality isn’t up to scratch it really doesn’t matter. That’s the point I at least was trying to put across on my comments about Lamela.
I don’t know what evidence you have which makes you so sure he a die hard Spurs man through and through. I suspect had he shown more promise and quality over the years then he would’ve had clubs interested to sign him?
Then to call him a warrior? Was he a warrior when he got Martial sent off this season or was that unsportsmanlike? I get the whole “that’s just how the game is nowadays” but makes calling him a warrior a little silly to me.

Well he doesn't carry a rifle or say "SIR- YES SIR!" everytime Mourinho gives him instructions- so I'll give you that- but yes, I do feel he's a warrior in the way that he sacrifices his body, gets stuck in, goes all out and does anything (including the shithousing as mentioned by you) for the cause. That's my definition of a warrior: someone who battles however he possibly can- for the squad- always and everywhere. He's a warrior because- even if he comes on in the 85th minute of a match we're losing 6-nil- he'll still press from the front and still work as if the match is level. That, to me, makes him a warrior. Compare Lamela to say, Dele- and perhaps the "warrior"-tag'll start to make sense.

Or not; swings and roundabouts, right?

 

[Bulletspur]

He took his goal well and was lively last night, we lost though and conceded 5 goals in the process.
Work rate and effort is great but if the quality isn’t up to scratch it really doesn’t matter. That’s the point I at least was trying to put across on my comments about Lamela.
I don’t know what evidence you have which makes you so sure he a die hard Spurs man through and through. I suspect had he shown more promise and quality over the years then he would’ve had clubs interested to sign him?
Then to call him a warrior? Was he a warrior when he got Martial sent off this season or was that unsportsmanlike? I get the whole “that’s just how the game is nowadays” but makes calling him a warrior a little silly to me.

]Very begrudging. What more evidence do you need? Here is one. As Mourinho has said, he has made himself available in the past for our cause even when not fully fit, unlike some of players I could name.

Well he doesn't carry a rifle or say "SIR- YES SIR!" everytime Mourinho gives him instructions- so I'll give you that- but yes, I do feel he's a warrior in the way that he sacrifices his body, gets stuck in, goes all out and does anything (including the shithousing as mentioned by you) for the cause. That's my definition of a warrior: someone who battles however he possibly can- for the squad- always and everywhere. He's a warrior because- even if he comes on in the 85th minute of a match we're losing 6-nil- he'll still press from the front and still work like the match is level. That, to me, makes him a warrior. Compare Lamela to say, Dele- and perhaps the "warrior"-tag'll start to make sense.

Or not; swings and roundabouts, right?

I am with you here

 

[That Wanyama Goal]

Well he doesn't carry a rifle or say "SIR- YES SIR!" everytime Mourinho gives him instructions- so I'll give you that- but yes, I do feel he's a warrior in the way that he sacrifices his body, gets stuck in, goes all out and does anything (including the shithousing as mentioned by you) for the cause. That's my definition of a warrior: someone who battles however he possibly can- for the squad- always and everywhere. He's a warrior because- even if he comes on in the 85th minute of a match we're losing 6-nil- he'll still press from the front and still work like the match is level. That, to me, makes him a warrior. Compare Lamela to say, Dele- and perhaps the "warrior"-tag'll start to make sense.

Or not; swings and roundabouts, right?

Again I get the point that he gives 100% and that is admirable but his quality makes his work rate pretty ineffective. I feel the recruitment over the last 8 years since Bale left for Madrid could’ve been so much better and transformed our squad into legitimate consistent Top 4 contenders for the next 10+ years. Lamela is for me an example of poor recruitment. Well Dele is the opposite I agree, for me he has the ability but his work rate sucks which is just as infuriating possibly even more than any frustration I’ve felt when seeing Lamela as my expectations of Lamela are much lower compared to Dele.

 

[That Wanyama Goal]

]Very begrudging. What more evidence do you need? Here is one. As Mourinho has said, he has made himself available in the past for our cause even when not fully fit, unlike some of players I could name.
I am with you here

I just find it’s a little naive to say stuff like this when footballers have been proven to be so fickle. I may be cynical but I feel his injuries is as big a reason as any for why he’s still with us now.

 

[ralvy]

Argue that Lamela had to come off because he was spent. But to argue that he had to come off in order to accomodate an ineffective Dele is just plain daft.

I just think it would have been extremely harsh to sub Dele given that he was playing as a sub, and would have been bad man management from Mourinho and probably would have killed any hope he has to get him fighting for the team.

 

[ralvy]

Again I get the point that he gives 100% and that is admirable but his quality makes his work rate pretty ineffective. I feel the recruitment over the last 8 years since Bale left for Madrid could’ve been so much better and transformed our squad into legitimate consistent Top 4 contenders for the next 10+ years. Lamela is for me an example of poor recruitment. Well Dele is the opposite I agree, for me he has the ability but his work rate sucks which is just as infuriating possibly even more than any frustration I’ve felt when seeing Lamela as my expectations of Lamela are much lower compared to Dele.

I disagree with your assessment of Lamela. He clearly has a lot of quality and footballing skills, and it's a bit sad that you can't see it as you're missing out. Last night he was playing lots of quick passes and controlling the ball quite smoothly, he wouldn't have looked out of his depth playing for a Pep Guardiola team.

 

[jezz]

Again I get the point that he gives 100% and that is admirable but his quality makes his work rate pretty ineffective. I feel the recruitment over the last 8 years since Bale left for Madrid could’ve been so much better and transformed our squad into legitimate consistent Top 4 contenders for the next 10+ years. Lamela is for me an example of poor recruitment. Well Dele is the opposite I agree, for me he has the ability but his work rate sucks which is just as infuriating possibly even more than any frustration I’ve felt when seeing Lamela as my expectations of Lamela are much lower compared to Dele.

Err the recruitment after bale left got us challenging for the league and champions League final.

 

[Riandor]

What was good to see vs Everton, was his ability to be good for the whole 90, rather than average when starting or amazing when on as a sub.

Important, as it was with Ndombele, is to do that match after match whilst staying fit!! Lamela has always been dogged by injuries and I hope for his sake and then ours that he just have a period of being injury free and being able to concentrate on playing his football.

 

[cjbyid]

 

[SlotBadger]

Nice, positive comments about a player whose last performance was unquestionably good.

It’s just as well nobody could possibly repeat nonsensical rhetoric (“only uses his right foot,” etc.) off the back of such performance, because humans choose to engage their brain before typing, signing or speaking, and would at least have the decency to acknowledge a positive contribution, keep quiet, and/or wait until said individual plays poorly before airing criticism.

Spore, however...

If you’re reading (assuming you can), Steve Norris, I’m on about you.

 

[jezz]

Nice, positive comments about a player whose last performance was unquestionably good.

It’s just as well nobody could possibly repeat nonsensical rhetoric (“only uses his right foot,” etc.) off the back of such performance, because humans choose to engage their brain before typing, signing or speaking, and would at least have the decency to acknowledge a positive contribution, keep quiet, and/or wait until said individual plays poorly before airing criticism.

Spore, however...

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If you’re reading (assuming you can), Steve Norris, I’m on about you.

88% pass completion against Everton is impressive.
Makes a mockery of Mr Norris tweet.
Or in council estate language what a dick.

 

[delawarespur]

He's always had more than just tenacity. He obviously has immense talent, its why the club spent 30mil on him in 2013. His ball retention is elite, and he has great technical qualities. He's just rarely been able to hone his talent through consistent training and game time. 2015/16 was probably the longest run he's had without injury. And in that season he racked up double digits in both goals and assists.

 

[That Wanyama Goal]

I disagree with your assessment of Lamela. He clearly has a lot of quality and footballing skills, and it's a bit sad that you can't see it as you're missing out. Last night he was playing lots of quick passes and controlling the ball quite smoothly, he wouldn't have looked out of his depth playing for a Pep Guardiola team.

Hardly a glowing reference speaking about his performance in a game we lost. My take on Lamela is based on his 8 years with us not one game where he played decent which we lost.

 

[That Wanyama Goal]

He's always had more than just tenacity. He obviously has immense talent, its why the club spent 30mil on him in 2013. His ball retention is elite, and he has great technical qualities. He's just rarely been able to hone his talent through consistent training and game time. 2015/16 was probably the longest run he's had without injury. And in that season he racked up double digits in both goals and assists.

Are you just looking at stats or what they actually represent. Look at the goals he scored that season. The majority were in the Europa league. The other goals were in games either already won or lost. I think maybe one was a goal that actually affected the result of the game. Great technical abilities? Ok