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nailsy

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I understand the earlier arguments about people wanting to keep Eriksen over signing Dybala, with the fact he’s PL proven and critical to how we play etc.

But with him on the last 12 months on his deal, until he puts pen to paper to re-sign, we could do a lot worse than Dybala. Yes, he could flop, but he could also be the amazing signing we hope he’d be on paper, and we could do a lot worse than replacing Eriksen with Dybala.

In all honesty I give it little chance, but if Eriksen has told the hierarchy he isn’t interested in signing a new deal, this is something we should look to persue imo despite the inevitable risks

An Eriksen/Dybala swap deal would make sense from a Tottenham perspective as we get to move the player before his contract expires and sign a major talent to replace him in the squad. It would make sense for Eriksen as he gets to move to a big club that will win the league, he gets big wages and he gets the challenge of playing in a new league. It probably makes sense for Dybala who gets to move to the Premier league with a side that already has an Argentinian manager and players, while possibly earning higher wagers than he's currently on. I'm just not sure if Juventus need Eriksen? Aren't they fully stocked in his position, or am I missing something?
 

TheWallYid

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Dybala is only 'versatile' because he's constantly played out of position. His best, and only true position is as a second striker. Him playing in the 3 in midfield doesn't suit him at all imo. Think fekir, very similar players who are very good but not incredibly adaptable. We already have Alli and Lucas who can play this sort of role, I'm not sure that we need to give up our greatest creator or 90m for an improved version who's struggled over the last 2 seasons or so. I never thought that it would happen anyway

Because hes gone next season and potentially new club announced for him in January. I know theres been ITK that hes signed a deal, might sign a deal etc. But as it currently stands Eriksen will be able to go on a free, for £0, for nothing nada in less than 6 months time. So we wont have a choice about giving up our greatest creator after the 9th August so I say sell, swap, flog unless he commits to a new deal.
 

soflapaul

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JJ has obviously been told to keep quiet as there is a lot going on at the moment.

as someone who only recently began to follow his oracle like pronouncements, it is normal for him to go silent for this long during past transfer windows?
 

Adam Zampa

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An Eriksen/Dybala swap deal would make sense from a Tottenham perspective as we get to move the player before his contract expires and sign a major talent to replace him in the squad. It would make sense for Eriksen as he gets to move to a big club that will win the league, he gets big wages and he gets the challenge of playing in a new league. It probably makes sense for Dybala who gets to move to the Premier league with a side that already has an Argentinian manager and players, while possibly earning higher wagers than he's currently on. I'm just not sure if Juventus need Eriksen? Aren't they fully stocked in his position, or am I missing something?
Juve have depth literally everywhere other then at the central attacking mid role, they've got plenty of players that play there, but not one is a natural there, all of their midfield depth is centre mids, defensive mids, or wingers.
 

rossdapep

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Juve have depth literally everywhere other then at the central attacking mid role, they've got plenty of players that play there, but not one is a natural there, all of their midfield depth is centre mids, defensive mids, or wingers.
Yeah, it's why they've wanted Pogba back. but perhaps it's a transfer they can't afford so they are looking at other alternatives.
 

Adam Zampa

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Juve have depth literally everywhere other then at the central attacking mid role, they've got plenty of players that play there, but not one is a natural there, all of their midfield depth is centre mids, defensive mids, or wingers.
Douglas Costa, 14 career games at central attacking mid,
Dybala, 13,
Cuardado, 2,
Bernadeshi, 12,
Bentancur, 6,
Khedira, 10, (surprisingly),
Ramsay, 64, 26 last season, 25 in 11/12.
Pjanic, 90, 10 in 3 years at juve, the vast majority pre 2012.

So unless they have plans to play Ramsay there exclusively, they're In desperate need of a central attacking mid.
 

Adam Zampa

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Douglas Costa, 14 career games at central attacking mid,
Dybala, 13,
Cuardado, 2,
Bernadeshi, 12,
Bentancur, 6,
Khedira, 10, (surprisingly),
Ramsay, 64, 26 last season, 25 in 11/12.
Pjanic, 90, 10 in 3 years at juve, the vast majority pre 2012.

So unless they have plans to play Ramsay there exclusively, they're In desperate need of a central attacking mid.

And I forgot to mention, Ramsay is a whole lot more effective further back statistically.
 

Klinsmannesque

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Because hes gone next season and potentially new club announced for him in January. I know theres been ITK that hes signed a deal, might sign a deal etc. But as it currently stands Eriksen will be able to go on a free, for £0, for nothing nada in less than 6 months time. So we wont have a choice about giving up our greatest creator after the 9th August so I say sell, swap, flog unless he commits to a new deal.
Not quite. He'll leave us in 11 months not 6, after a full season. Big difference. That's why Hazard went for as much as he did, he was important to their project this season. Eriksen's value to a team like Juve could be more than we think, they are desperate for CL success especially with their financial situation, the likes of Ronaldo, Chiellini etc aren't getting any younger and they may see him as a missing piece of the puzzle - as someone pointed out, they are thin on the creator side of things and he could bring it all together for them.

And on Eriksen's side, he is pretty much guaranteed a league winners medal for a giant club with enormous history, in the same team as one of the best players to have ever played - I think there is a deal to be done here and hopefully that includes Dybala coming the other way.

All providing Eriksen doesn't sign a new deal of course.
 

spursfan77

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Juve have depth literally everywhere other then at the central attacking mid role, they've got plenty of players that play there, but not one is a natural there, all of their midfield depth is centre mids, defensive mids, or wingers.
Yeah, it's why they've wanted Pogba back. but perhaps it's a transfer they can't afford so they are looking at other alternatives.

When they signed Ramsey their sporting director said he was signed for this position. Ramsey was the one player available in Europe who could play that role or they thought that could play that role but hadn't been given the chance to.
 

GetSpurredOn

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Initially I thought Eriksen was a better option for us over Dybala based on how it would affect squad balance, Eriksen being more of a CM/AM, as opposed to Dybala AM/CF, but I’m now starting to believe the opposite. Having a top tier talent like Dybala who would potentially ‘want’ to be here, rather than Eriksen staying because Real didn’t come knocking.
Big leap obviously, but having a small Argentinian enclave may help recruit more talented young Argentines over.
Bringing in someone Dybala’s calibre would be a big lift too.
For some reason I think there’s some mileage in it too. I heard from friends at the weekend (this may have been guesswork though) that Pepe is effectively Aubameyang’s replacement, as he’s off to Utd, with Lukaku off to Inter, and potentially Icardi off to Juve. So the merry go round may just work, albeit it’s mostly rumour and has a lot of parts to move into place.

GK - Lloris, Gazzaniga, Whiteman/Austin
FB - Aurier, Walker-Peters, Davies, Sessegnon, (Foyth), Georgiou
CB - Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Sanchez, Foyth, (Davies), Carter-Vickers?, Tanganga/Eyoma
DM/CM - Winks, Dier, Skipp, Ndombele, Sissoko, Lo Celso, (Alli & Lamela), Roles
AM/CF - Lamela, Dybala, Alli, Kane, Son, Moura, (Lo Celso), Parrott

Pretty fluid looking squad for either 433, 4231 or 4312/Diamond(ish), including a pathway for emerging young players.
 
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GK - Lloris, Gazzaniga, Whiteman/Austin
FB - Aurier, Walker-Peters, Davies, Sessegnon, (Foyth), Georgiou
CB - Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Sanchez, Foyth, (Davies), Carter-Vickers?, Tanganga/Eyoma
DM/CM - Wanyama, Winks, Dier, Skipp, Ndombele, Sissoko, Lo Celso, (Alli & Lamela), Roles
AM/CF - Lamela, Dybala, Alli, Kane, Son, Moura, (Lo Celso), Nkoudou, Parrott

Pretty fluid looking squad for either 433, 4231 or 4312/Diamond(ish), including a pathway for emerging young players.

What's interesting is, even with adding Wanyama and Nkoudou back in for now, and I guess you're assuming Eriksen and Rose go, that to me still only looks like 16 non-HG players (think Foyth is 'free' for until next season), meaning that it's not that much of an issue to even fit in another non-HG for the PL rules (something I'd been thinking about).

Not sure how it all looks for the CL squad, as it gets more confusing then.
 

TwanYid

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What kind of bondage Des likes?

As I've often said on here, a punishment mask with a zippered mouth makes it hard to breathe after about an hour and, for me at least, renders the concept of a safe word almost untenable. Indeed, when my mistress does potty training with me, she...

Oh- wait- shit- sorry- I had multiple screens up at once and posted something on here that was meant for somewhere else...

I mean- sorry- my friend was meant to be doing that- posting some stuff I couldn't see. He's staying at my house and was using my computer just now-- not really a friend, more of an acquaintance...barely know the guy (he seems a bit weird though).

Anyway- um- so yeah, Dybala...I think he'd be good playing off Kane...what do you all reckon?
 

GetSpurredOn

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What's interesting is, even with adding Wanyama and Nkoudou back in for now, and I guess you're assuming Eriksen and Rose go, that to me still only looks like 16 non-HG players (think Foyth is 'free' for until next season), meaning that it's not that much of an issue to even fit in another non-HG for the PL rules (something I'd been thinking about).

Not sure how it all looks for the CL squad, as it gets more confusing then.

That’s my assumption, although obviously if Rose stayed we’d have HG room anyway. Think
Foyth would have to be listed in Europe, as would Davies. Can’t see Nkoudou being included either way.
 

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pelayo59

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Article also mentions there have been no official offers, only some "shy" inquiries. Also, Dybala is still expected to meet with Sarri this week.

But it sounds like his info is that Juve is very open to selling.

If Juve financial problems are real, and Inter are closing on Lukaku they can buy Icardi for very good price. And make more money on selling Dybala.
 

JKendall13

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If Juve financial problems are real, and Inter are closing on Lukaku they can buy Icardi for very good price. And make more money on selling Dybala.

There's a really weird potential domino effect going on in Italy with the striker situations with potentially all of Icardi, Dzeko, Higuain, and Lukaku switching spots. Dybala involved now as well. Very odd.
 

Primativ

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I think it's been obvious Juventus want to sell him. The question is, will we pay the money required and does the player want Spurs....
 
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