Oliver Skipp

[Real_madyidd]

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Second choice, obviously.

Oh. that's a shame for gazza as I think he has been OK. Also, he is bloody handsome. I would.

 

[DiVaio]

 

[wirE]

Must admit I like this loan a lot. Norwich are a footballing side and they seem to lack steel in midfield. Hopefully he'll get a starting berth and play a lot of games in the championship for a competitive side. Could be just what he needs.

Alexander Tettey getting older by the day and his contract is up next year; Skipp would be a good contender for that midfield spot of his. Plus he has been riddled with injuries over the years

 

[Spurrific]

Alexander Tettey getting older by the day and his contract is up next year; Skipp would be a good contender for that midfield spot of his

We all are mate

 

[Havre]

Not a bad move at all - even if I would have preferred him going to the Bundesliga.

To play CM for a top 6 side at 19/20 doesn't really happen - unless you are quite special. I don't think Skipp is special, but I do believe he has a fair shot at becoming a regular for us. Seems like the right time to get a proper pro season somewhere. He might even need two.

 

[C0YS]

Not totally in love with this move. As far back as 2018 he played 8 league games, most of them starts in the first half of the season, and looked very good - that's arguably the time he was definitely good enough for should have then gone on a Championship loan, and by now should probably have progressed further. I trust the club though if they think this is the right move for him, and hope he manages to kick on - he's still extremely young.

He's very young still, and I think people tend to over value how significant loans are in developing players. Don't get me wrong they help a lot. But, I think now is a good time and him playing in the championship and the PL isn't that significant.

I think the advantage is he is likely to get a lot more playing time for a good championship side than a struggling PL one, and the purpose of the loan is to build confidence, to get a feel for the professional game etc. He is already training with top quality players and we already know that he has the ability to make it in the top level. The important thing now is for him to be in a good environment and develop there.

 

[C0YS]

Not a bad move at all - even if I would have preferred him going to the Bundesliga.

To play CM for a top 6 side at 19/20 doesn't really happen - unless you are quite special. I don't think Skipp is special, but I do believe he has a fair shot at becoming a regular for us. Seems like the right time to get a proper pro season somewhere. He might even need two.

Keep in mind he is a kid and it's COVID times. I think staying in the UK has a lot of sense at these times. Particularly as it would allow as a greater ability to assess his performance, keep in communication with him, even bring him in for training or if he gets an injury. Imagine COVID brings about lock downs and all that. Having someone abroad could be a real pain.

I'm very happy with the Parrott move as well, as staying in London is a big deal, as at that age you shouldn't be moving around and the world. It's good to be settled

 

[Havre]

Keep in mind he is a kid and it's COVID times. I think staying in the UK has a lot of sense at these times. Particularly as it would allow as a greater ability to assess his performance, keep in communication with him, even bring him in for training or if he gets an injury. Imagine COVID brings about lock downs and all that. Having someone abroad could be a real pain.

I'm very happy with the Parrott move as well, as staying in London is a big deal, as at that age you shouldn't be moving around and the world. It's good to be settled

Yeah. I can see those points as well.

It becomes anecdotal, but I remember when I moved abroad for the first time as a "kid" (more or less the same age as Skipp would be) and it just accelerated my development as a person immensely (to the extent one can evaluate such things as I don't know how it would have gone had I stayed in Norway - neither do I really know how "developed" I am).

Now The Championship is a lot better than it used to be in terms of being a place for development. Most pitches are at least decent and many teams play very decent football. But it is also a grind. How much training do you get to do between games? What happens if you are desperate for points come second half of the season? Do you play Skipp or someone more experienced? That is obviously not specific for The Championship, but I could see Norwich ending up in a situation like that.

So all in all I don't mind this at all, but I would have preferred Germany.

 

[C0YS]

Yeah. I can see those points as well.

It becomes anecdotal, but I remember when I moved abroad for the first time as a "kid" (more or less the same age as Skipp would be) and it just accelerated my development as a person immensely (to the extent one can evaluate such things as I don't know how it would have gone had I stayed in Norway - neither do I really know how "developed" I am).

Now The Championship is a lot better than it used to be in terms of being a place for development. Most pitches are at least decent and many teams play very decent football. But it is also a grind. How much training do you get to do between games? What happens if you are desperate for points come second half of the season? Do you play Skipp or someone more experienced? That is obviously not specific for The Championship, but I could see Norwich ending up in a situation like that.

So all in all I don't mind this at all, but I would have preferred Germany.

I've been in constant transit for years, living in god knows how many countries, and think it is good at developing people. But, COVID does change things, and I think for a first loan move in particular its much easier for the player to keep it domestic. Skipp should be fine, even moving abroad, Parrott is just way too young and has already moved to london, better to get him settled and have the club support him.

Also, a lot of people are not suited to live abroad. I think everyone should try it, but it's not always a positive experience in terms of footballers. Particularly at that age. I can imagine it can be very isolating, and as a teenager, that can be hard to deal with.

 

[Havre]

I've been in constant transit for years, living in god knows how many countries, and think it is good at developing people. But, COVID does change things, and I think for a first loan move in particular its much easier for the player to keep it domestic. Skipp should be fine, even moving abroad, Parrott is just way too young and has already moved to london, better to get him settled and have the club support him.

Also, a lot of people are not suited to live abroad. I think everyone should try it, but it's not always a positive experience in terms of footballers. Particularly at that age. I can imagine it can be very isolating, and as a teenager, that can be hard to deal with.

The last paragraph is for me an argument for testing yourself a bit more early on. Maybe it becomes a really difficult year, but I don't necessarily think that would be a long term problem - rather something that could become a long term positive (not that I'm hoping he would have a difficult year socially etc., but for me that is almost a win/win).

Whatever happens I really hope we have learned our lesson from Caulker.

 

[C0YS]

The last paragraph is for me an argument for testing yourself a bit more early on. Maybe it becomes a really difficult year, but I don't necessarily think that would be a long term problem - rather something that could become a long term positive (not that I'm hoping he would have a difficult year socially etc., but for me that is almost a win/win).

Whatever happens I really hope we have learned our lesson from Caulker.

What lesson did we need to learn from Caulker?

As a human being I agree with you (18-21 that is, before then there's all kinds of safeguarding issues), as football player, who tend to be ending their careers at about the same time that in the 'real world' peoples careers start actually getting somewhere I think it's a much more difficult situation. Obviously, it depends on the mentality. But reading Townsend's struggles at Yoevil and how the club essentially lost the ability to manage the wellbeing of their young players it does feel like something to be careful about.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Certainly looks like a predicate for one of theirs joining us in return. Hopefully Aarons.

 

[y1dk1d]

 

[$hoguN]

Good luck to Amos, hope he continues to build on his career.

Hope he acts as a sweetener for Eze

 

[$hoguN]

He should get plenty of game time. Wish the lad the best of luck

 

[Havre]

What lesson did we need to learn from Caulker?

As a human being I agree with you (18-21 that is, before then there's all kinds of safeguarding issues), as football player, who tend to be ending their careers at about the same time that in the 'real world' peoples careers start actually getting somewhere I think it's a much more difficult situation. Obviously, it depends on the mentality. But reading Townsend's struggles at Yoevil and how the club essentially lost the ability to manage the wellbeing of their young players it does feel like something to be careful about.

Struggling with addiction alone in Bristol.

There is always this balance. Anyway. Norwich it is. Among teams in Englans that is about as good as it gets I would have thought. So even if I don't think it is perfect it is still very very good.

 

[wirE]

Best of luck!

 

[Spursmatty87]

Has Levy not realised that the transfer window is open until October.

 

[Philly Yid]

Has Levy not realised that the transfer window is open until October.

Shhhhhhh! Don't tell him!

 

[Sweech]

Oliver Skipp: Norwich’s style really suits my game

A brave style of play and a commitment to developing young players were two of the key elements that attracted Oliver Skipp to sign on loan for Norwich City on Monday.

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Nice little interview with Skipp on why he chose to go to Norwich. Seems like he gets on quite well with Max Aarons.