Nicolò Zaniolo

[Gareth88]

Well at least he’s used to to being boo’d

That’s the experience Conte was talking about in his post match presser

 

[stewartd]

Looks like we will get him and I trust Conte's judgement , but if we keep to his horrible 3-4-3 system who will he replace .Is he based on his record a non scoring forward, or a mifielder , or just another bench warmer.Really inrigued as to what he will add to the first 11 and who he replaces.

 

[spursfan77]

Is signing kulusevski/bentancur going to be the new van der vaart?

Just because it’s happened once doesn’t mean it happens every time.

I think people are valid to have concerns. If it’s a loan and we get to have a look at him then fine. If he’s injured the whole time here or flatters to deceive then we won’t need to push the trigger on him. Seems ideal to me.

 

[jpascavitz]

Tbf it’s a forum, be a bit quiet if people agreed with everything. I’m actually grand with us getting Zaniolo, but those people could quite easily argue that for every Deki, there’s an Emerson that we’re trying to replace already or for every Bentancur, there’s a Bissouma/Richarlison that can’t get in the team. All just opinions really, some transfer work, some don’t, what we think doesn’t truly matter.

I think it’s certainly valid to ask the question, why another attacking mid for 30-40mil? we have the 3rd best attack and 15th best defence in the league.

I get that but isn't that the place we're trying to get to as a squad?

There was an interview back in beginning of season where Conte explicitly said there should be no "back ups" and he's said to want two quality options in every position.

I would argue that any supporter would take Bissouma and Richarlison signing 9/10 times. Both have not had great seasons, been in/out, injured, etc. But in my opinion that's both unlucky and on each of those players. I mean Sarr has almost played himself ahead of the likes of Bissouma.

Again I'm taking the Zaniolo signing every day of the week, because if he's Kulus competition and consider the 5th forward, that's a great scenario for us

 

[Ben1]

I get that but isn't that the place we're trying to get to as a squad?

There was an interview back in beginning of season where Conte explicitly said there should be no "back ups" and he's said to want two quality options in every position.

I would argue that any supporter would take Bissouma and Richarlison signing 9/10 times. Both have not had great seasons, been in/out, injured, etc. But in my opinion that's both unlucky and on each of those players. I mean Sarr has almost played himself ahead of the likes of Bissouma.

Again I'm taking the Zaniolo signing every day of the week, because if he's Kulus competition and consider the 5th forward, that's a great scenario for us

I don’t disagree with the idea. But when’s there’s limited funds, one quality player in each position should be the priority

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Is signing kulusevski/bentancur going to be the new van der vaart?

Just because it’s happened once doesn’t mean it happens every time.

I think people are valid to have concerns. If it’s a loan and we get to have a look at him then fine. If he’s injured the whole time here or flatters to deceive then we won’t need to push the trigger on him. Seems ideal to me.

Agreed

Can't say I've seen much of him, but I do watch AC often and he's never been a stand out against us.

I do have faith in Conte and Paratici Madoff, so if that's who they want then he must have something to offer us.

 

[Hakkz]

Is signing kulusevski/bentancur going to be the new van der vaart?

Just because it’s happened once doesn’t mean it happens every time.

I think people are valid to have concerns. If it’s a loan and we get to have a look at him then fine. If he’s injured the whole time here or flatters to deceive then we won’t need to push the trigger on him. Seems ideal to me.

Was thinking exactly this. You cannot complain about a potential transfer of a player who the selling club's fans want to see gone, because this one time it worked out for us.

 

[chrisd2k]

Reading this thread just shows that some people have learnt nothing from the signings of Bentancur and Kulusevski, neither of whom were seen as being much cop by probably the same people (particularly Bentancur). Maybe, just maybe Conte and Paratici know more about this than we do? Just saying.

And of course because they did it, it's almost a certainty that any future signing will.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Is signing kulusevski/bentancur going to be the new van der vaart?

Just because it’s happened once doesn’t mean it happens every time.

I think people are valid to have concerns. If it’s a loan and we get to have a look at him then fine. If he’s injured the whole time here or flatters to deceive then we won’t need to push the trigger on him. Seems ideal to me.

I get there being concern about his injury history but this season he only had one injury which was a nasty shoulder injury. I was watching that game and that was just a bad injury that any player would have got. Aside from that he’s had no issues this season. Tbh Porro’s injury history is also very concerning but I never see people really mentioning it.

I get what your saying about Kulu and Bentancur and your right that we shouldn’t assume every underperforming player we get will blossom like they did. But in this case I don’t think we can ignore the fact that both Paratici and Conte independently have wanted him for years. Paratici wanted him since at least 2019 and Conte since 2020. What’s more Conte was at Inter when he wanted him and would have likely talked to those who managed him in the youth team.

If you have earmarked a player for 3/4 years I’d say there’s a pretty good bet you know they’re strengths and weaknesses pretty well and are convinced by their ability. We have heard numerous times that Conte believes Zaniolo isn’t being utilised properly which is exactly the same situation we had with Kulu.

I completely understand why a lot of people think it’s a bad move. Twitter is full of people thinking he is an injury prone flop. I’ve watched him countless times since he was at Inter’s youth team and it would be easy to come to a conclusion that he will struggle if you only watched a handful of his games. But I also think he has a lot of untapped talent. Personally I think he’s crying out for a manger like Conte who can structure his role and make him focus on individual elements.

IF, and I recognise it’s a big if, Conte can help him to fulfil his potential I think we could have another superstar on our hands. But worse comes to worse I think we will have a hard working sub who’s good on the ball and who’s physicality will make him a handful when coming on against tired defenders.

Like I’ve said before, would he be my top pick? No, but then again my top picks would probably cost 2 or 3 times as much, probably not available or not want to come. I know Maddison is the main name people ask for but he has been incredibly injury prone of late and he’s a different type of player for a different system. Personally I’m really excited by this potential transfer and I feel like he could be a big success here even if yes there is risk involved and there is no guarantees whatsoever.

 

[mil1lion]

Looks ideal for the Kulusevski role and I'm sure he's there to bring more competition in a front 3. Even if it also gives us the option to go 352. One thing we really miss with Deki out or even a weakness with Son on the left is that ability to carry the ball from deep and hold onto it. Moura and Gil are not good at that so he will improve us there.

It is another squad addition and that is good. It's just not the highest priority but you can't always control which position presents itself in January.

 

[Schoon-related]

I've just watched his YouTube highlights. He looks great and no mention of injuries. Sign him up.

 

[GetKaned]

I think people are missing the fact that Conte not just wants him but also thinks he isnt used right at Roma. So Conte might have a plan for him to rediscover his potential

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

I think people are missing the fact that Conte not just wants him but also thinks he isnt used right at Roma. So Conte might have a plan for him to rediscover his potential

GK?

 

[Flobadob]

GK?

Goalrightwingcentrebackdirectoroffootball

 

[synththfc]

I think people are missing the fact that Conte not just wants him but also thinks he isnt used right at Roma. So Conte might have a plan for him to rediscover his potential

Jose Mourinho not using a player correctly? That doesn't sound ANYTHING like him...

 

[spursn17]

if he stays injury free - he will be a sensation in the premier league...

 

[mdharris]

If Porro doesn’t come in, but Zaniolo does, we may see more of Kulusevski at RWB. Not an awful idea against mid or lower table sides.

 

[Flobadob]

If Porro doesn’t come in, but Zaniolo does, we may see more of Kulusevski at RWB. Not an awful idea against mid or lower table sides.

He’s comfortably good enough defensively for RWB in my opinion

 

[tottenham_skriniar]

70% of Roma's goals this season have come without Zaniolo on the pitch. Outrageous stat considering that Zaniolo has been an undisputed starter when healthy. Miracle that Roma was 3rd in xG last season and 3rd in xG this season even with someone like Zaniolo slowing down offensive play.

(Meanwhile, Dybala under Mourinho - 16 games: 10 goals, 3 assists.)

 

[spursfan77]

Looks ideal for the Kulusevski role and I'm sure he's there to bring more competition in a front 3. Even if it also gives us the option to go 352. One thing we really miss with Deki out or even a weakness with Son on the left is that ability to carry the ball from deep and hold onto it. Moura and Gil are not good at that so he will improve us there.

It is another squad addition and that is good. It's just not the highest priority but you can't always control which position presents itself in January.

Give Son’s form I’d like us to go with two up top in Kane and Richy. If bringing him in helps with that then great. Although then I don’t know where dejan plays.