Next DoF

[GetSpurredOn]

I seem to recall the suggestion from his time at Juve was that he was good at spotting talent just not good building a team. That does appear to be the case here since his signings don't all fit a specific way. However there's at least a number of player with great potential and that can allow Ange to develop them to work his way. If we can identify exactly what we need in a position then a DOF just needs to have that similar level of ability to find the player who best fits.

Maybe Paratici didn't work for managers who had a clear vision so he just went and got the best talent he could find with little cost. I don't think Conte really had a vision to follow. He was very much short term thinking. Get player x to fit this formation no matter the cost. The trouble is if they're still young and a bit raw by the time they develop Conte would be gone.

Agree with this.
If the previous model was Paratici buying players unchecked, then there is the downfall if he’s an able to spot talent but just buys individuals regardless of the fit within team, therein lies the problem. He needs someone to vet his picks prior to buying, to ensure we only bring in the right technical fit for the team makeup.
Take Partatici’s eye for playing talent, with Ange’s view of what specifically he needs and how best to implement it, get that working in tandem and we’ve cracked it. Let Fabio bring lists of multiple players and rather than letting him pick any, have Ange vet the list first.

 

[spursfan77]

So anyway, who are the candidates for the next director of football?

In the summer we will linked to quite a few. I’m starting to think it could be one of the guys at somewhere like Brentford.

 

[BathYid]

So anyway, who are the candidates for the next director of football?

In the summer we will linked to quite a few. I’m starting to think it could be one of the guys at somewhere like Brentford.

It will just be someone holding the fort until Paratici's ban is finished, he is clearly still running the show from his consultancy position.

 

[alpha]

I posted some of this in the youth thread as it relates to the young talent that is being snapped up, but it should probably go here, too:

It's been suggested on other forums that it is a trial run to see how well he works with Ange, and If they work well together, then expect a paper promotion as he's doing the DoF's work already.

See here: https://www.football.london/tottenh...gabbanini-tottenham-postecoglou-team-27177338

and,

Vicario low cost e molto altro. C’è anche un italiano dietro le quinte del nuovo Tottenham​

Italians do it better. Dalle parti di Londra la pensano così da anni, non a caso in regia al nuovo Tottenham quest’estate senza far rumore c’era anche l’occhio attento di un Chief Scout italiano e talentuoso. Leonardo Gabbanini è tra i...
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Italians do It Better. Around London they have been thinking this way for years, and it is no coincidence that the watchful eye of a talented Italian Chief Scout was also quietly in charge of the new Tottenham this summer. Leonardo Gabbanini is among...

Marco Astori
September 10th - 8.15am
Italians do It Better. Around London they have been thinking this way for years, and it is no coincidence that the watchful eye of a talented Italian Chief Scout was also quietly in charge of the new Tottenham this summer. Leonardo Gabbanini is among the faces of the Spurs transfer market that has returned enthusiasm this summer despite the 'forced' departure of Harry Kane, who did not intend to renew his contract and therefore left for Bayern.
Gabbanini worked with chairman Daniel Levy always on the front line and in close contact with the new manager Ange Postecoglou, achieving the set objectives. After Udogie 's arrival a year later, Vicario was a low-cost deal already approved by Spurs fans, an immediately excellent performance.

But also Micky van de Ven in defense for just over 40 million, the masterpiece James Maddison for modest sums with an already high-level impact on and off the pitch, the confirmation of Kulusevski on a permanent basis from Juve... and the Manor Solomon opportunity to zero, a smart deal despite being on the list of many other clubs.
There was no shortage of the final blow from Deadline Day: Brennan Johnson cost over £40m from Nottingham Forest but represents Postecoglou's vision to follow, talent and versatility rather than a traditional number 9 to replace Kane. There is also the Italian brand on Tottenham 2.0.

 

[ilya]

I'm sorry if this has been discussed recently but what's up with Paratici, is he out for good?

 

[Albertbarich]

No, I'm a Spurs fan first and foremost. Though I think we have a very different takes on FP's role, responsibilities, autonomy, and performance.



We weren't going to replace our best GK of the PL era with a cheap loan no.2.

We did that so we could sign Romero with the post Covid budget he was given. Any thing else was PR to attract and encourage the player.



Not every 20 year old will work out but hardly a terrible signing. May come good yet, or we'll probably get our money back. Don't really get the issue.

Lamela had a year left and with his injuries had no cash bids, we weren't likely to extend, nor was he guaranteed to either just to sit on the bench.



Levy signing by all accounts. Talented player but bad fit. Will probably get our money back.



Club over pay-ed to give Conte one of his picks. Otherwise decent £30-40m forward. Unfortunate with Injuries.



Another cheap loan option after ENIC blocked any more big signings (and the remainder of the £150m "injection) mid way through last summer window, having failed to attract unrealistic offers for our loan army.

Again, best sources tell us Danjuma was another Levy signing





The primary job of the DOF is to build and manage the sporting structure. Ours had been terrible for years. Who do we want to do that? Paratici with his scouting background? Or Levy our resident Land Economist?

So it doesn't matter which individual scout found or pushed for which individual player, someone has to hire the scouts and implement a structure for talent ID and transfer target /strategy with all this information.


The following things happened under FP's time.

1. Our scouting structure was transformed and vastly improved from First team down to Academy.

2. In addition to hugely improving our first XI we added Phillips, Logan, Egan-Carter, Keeley, Ashcroft, Sayers, James, Lankshear, Soonsup-Bell. Some will become first team players, most won't, but we're improving our chances. Several will be sold for profit.

3. He pushed the club to smash it's Academy pay structure that has kept Moore, Olusesi, Dorrington, Donley. Previously we'd been loosing our best prospects to Europe, United, Southampton, and Sunderland.

4. He negotiated complex and competitively sought deals to sign Romero, Udogie, and Sarr for peanuts.

I agree it's fair to question the football style, and whatever went on at Juve. But overall the job he's done for us has been excellent.

Loosing Kane without the above having taken place in the background would have put us in big trouble.

As it is by adding Ange to a highly promising and improving squad, skilled and reliable recruitment structures, and a conveyor of youth talent, we're in a much better position.

I just wanted to respond to this post as it was fair and balanced and I totally missed it under the barrage of "gotcha" ones going over the same ground.

I haven't once said he was all bad and if you know he was responsible for the academy pay structure and getting some of the kids in then brilliant, kudos to him although I'm sure the timing of it doesn't add up?

In regards to players you're doing what others have in a more detailed and polite way of giving him credit for the good ones and putting the blame on others for the bad. The only reason I'd give Gab credit for Udogie is because they came from the same system and yeah I'm ignoring posts giving him credit for this summer when he wasn't even here.

I'm genuinely bored of the debate now , couldn't give a toss about him either way. My only point really was that he's a crook and we should move on, I have no desire to either defend or debate him for hours on end and wasn't planning on responding but yours was a good post and I appreciate it.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Lots of talk that Marco Neppe, who we were linked with early in the year, could well be getting pushed out of Bayern shortly. Kicker posted an article suggesting that Neppe hasn’t actually been doing a good job and that BM could likely be replaced shortly.

So soll Sportdirektor Freund wirken - Über Vivell wird getuschelt

Christoph Freund ist seit elf Tagen offiziell im Amt beim FC Bayern. Mit dem neuen Sportdirektor soll sich an der Säbener Straße genauso wie am Campus einiges ändern. Denn weiterhin gilt es, die Fehler der Vergangenheit zu korrigieren.

www.kicker.de

 

[BAE]

Lots of talk that Marco Neppe, who we were linked with early in the year, could well be getting pushed out of Bayern shortly. Kicker posted an article suggesting that Neppe hasn’t actually been doing a good job and that BM could likely be replaced shortly.

So soll Sportdirektor Freund wirken - Über Vivell wird getuschelt

Christoph Freund ist seit elf Tagen offiziell im Amt beim FC Bayern. Mit dem neuen Sportdirektor soll sich an der Säbener Straße genauso wie am Campus einiges ändern. Denn weiterhin gilt es, die Fehler der Vergangenheit zu korrigieren.

www.kicker.de

Surely can't have been that bad. Must've had a hand in scouting that talented youngster Harold Kane-Peters for a bargain £100m, who seems to have picked up a couple of goals already.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Surely can't have been that bad. Must've had a hand in scouting that talented youngster Harold Kane-Peters for a bargain £100m, who seems to have picked up a couple of goals already.

If we have learnt anything from their pursuit of Kane over the summer it is that BM will get the press to paint whatever picture they want to help show them in a positive light even if its bending the truth. Essentially I would take everything coming out of the German press with a big pinch of salt when it's related to anyone BM currently employs.

 

[McFlash]

You can compare him to a similar sized player in Modric who did have the natural strength to compete

Funnily enough, I've just mentioned Modders in another thread and didn't he credit playing in a tough Croatian league to how strong he was?
Getting kicked and pushed around by big lads toughened him up and taught him how to keep the ball and be strong.

 

[spurs9]

Funnily enough, I've just mentioned Modders in another thread and didn't he credit playing in a tough Croatian league to how strong he was?
Getting kicked and pushed around by big lads toughened him up and taught him how to keep the ball and be strong.

That was the Bosnian league. He was on loan to a team in that league for a season.

 

[Locotoro]

Funnily enough, I've just mentioned Modders in another thread and didn't he credit playing in a tough Croatian league to how strong he was?
Getting kicked and pushed around by big lads toughened him up and taught him how to keep the ball and be strong.

Yes, I think he spent a season in the Bosnian league as a youngster. Its funny because if you look at him now he's small but appears quite stocky

 

[McFlash]

That was the Bosnian league. He was on loan to a team in that league for a season.

Ah yes, that's the one.

 

[Chris Flynn]

It is quite odd how Paratici can identify talent that is largely exciting players who benefit from an attack minded approach yet he doesnt adapt that approach with his coach selections.

I suppose Sarri and Pirlo were a little more adventurous but its like the way he sees football is at odds with itself.

Attack minded players but we need a coach who is more pragmatic to win.

Quite odd.

Anyway, a lot of people were adamant that he should have been hung drawn and quartered back in January but you can absolutely see why the club were not so hasty in sending him away.

The value he finds is superb and considering we were wasting 60m on Ndombele, 30m Sissoko etc. Or finding total duds. Then the club were right to wait it out and not be reactive.

Unless you buy the exact 11 player in world football Conte wants, any signing will suit any other manager better. Conte is like the Apple of managers, no compatability outside of his 'system'

 

[danielneeds]

Lots of talk that Marco Neppe, who we were linked with early in the year, could well be getting pushed out of Bayern shortly. Kicker posted an article suggesting that Neppe hasn’t actually been doing a good job and that BM could likely be replaced shortly.

So soll Sportdirektor Freund wirken - Über Vivell wird getuschelt

Christoph Freund ist seit elf Tagen offiziell im Amt beim FC Bayern. Mit dem neuen Sportdirektor soll sich an der Säbener Straße genauso wie am Campus einiges ändern. Denn weiterhin gilt es, die Fehler der Vergangenheit zu korrigieren.

www.kicker.de

O'Keefe suggested we already have our guy, so doubt it's him, though.

 

[Locotoro]

O'Keefe suggested we already have our guy, so doubt it's him, though.

we have in house or we have in mind

 

[hero]

 

[jordibwoy]

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Can't afford to burn his source

 

[only1waddle]

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Would be very easy to keep it secret if it's Gabbanini.

 

[jordibwoy]

Would be very easy to keep it secret if it's Gabbanini.

Fair point but for some reason I don't think they'd necessarily be tight-lipped about that. What would be the point, not to mention club journalists you'd feel would have an inside track to that decision more closely than if it was someone from elsewhere