Next DoF

[danielneeds]

Not sure want Pinto is doing on this list. The fact that Liverpool talked to him means that he must have something about him as their owners are a gaping chasm more competent than Levy, but still…

 

[spursfan77]

Things hotting up

Dykes

Mystery man???

Spurs narrow down new director of football search including one 'big operator'

Tottenham are searching for their next director of football to replace Fabio Paratici as they look to bring some leadership and direction to the club

www.football.london

 

[spursfan77]

Yet he does say we haven't met him face to face.

Pinto goes against the data driven recruitment department we seem to be trying to create and a wrong match entirely. So it will probably be him.

From Alasdair Gold's piece

Those who know Pinto have told football.london that of the leading candidates the Portuguese is the "big operator" and the most natural replacement for Fabio Paratici, who resigned from the club last month after failing to win his appeal against his 30-month ban from the Italian football federation.

 

[olithfc]

Things hotting up

Dykes

Mystery man???

Spurs narrow down new director of football search including one 'big operator'

Tottenham are searching for their next director of football to replace Fabio Paratici as they look to bring some leadership and direction to the club

www.football.london

It's really nuts how slow this is. It really shows the club up

 

[danielneeds]

Things hotting up

Dykes

Mystery man???

Spurs narrow down new director of football search including one 'big operator'

Tottenham are searching for their next director of football to replace Fabio Paratici as they look to bring some leadership and direction to the club

www.football.london

Hmm, not sure I like the sound of “big operator”. I want someone younger, driven, and data-led.

 

[dk-yid]

I think it must be the Rangnick connection with Spors and Nagelsmann.

Snippet from a Guardian interview with Spors.

"Most important that the club has a clear strategy" Spors said.

So that was clearly a non-starter.

 

[Dunc2610]

Hmm, not sure I like the sound of “big operator”. I want someone younger, driven, and data-led.

Younger, he's only 35 lol, how do you know he's not driven or uses data?

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Did we establish that this was indeed the deal breaker for Nagelsmann as I struggle to see how for instance if we appoint Steidten that would be far less acceptable to him for his 'project' at Tottenham?

Also i'm right in saying aren't I that at no point did Spors and Nagelsmann ever work together?

The Spors and Nagelsmann connection has been answered by others above. Obviously the overlap at Hoffenheim, but I was actually holding up the Rangnick connection as most notable

But to answer your other question on Tim Steidten, I think it’s a bit easy to say that he and Nagelsmann would be a perfect combo because they’re both German. (To be honest I subconsciously jumped to this conclusion myself)

But when you actually think about it, the fact that they’re both German doesn’t mean that they both like/rate each other at all.

Steidten has actually only been responsible for one managerial appointment in his career, and despite the bounty of great German managers out there he actually opted for a Spaniard in Xabi Alonso.

 

[spursfan77]

This bit makes me think it could be his agent putting his name forward rather than us actually being interested?

football.london understands that Levy is yet to discuss the role directly with Steidten. The German is another who was considered by Liverpool in recent months and he was in charge at Leverkusen when they made the decision in October to hire Xabi Alonso - now one of the head coach candidates for Spurs.

 

[snakehipsspurs]

Mystery man is intriguing. There are plenty of strong names out there not in work just now (Edwards and Mitchell of course) and a few still in posts that would be real statements - Rui Pedro Braz being top among the ‘realistic’ ones. Would love if it was someone clearly at the forefront of the industry who came in.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I'd hope the mystery man is Michael Edwards and he'd be the dream appointment.

If Levy hires yet another poor fit and old school type like Pinto, he's a moron.

 

[spursfan77]

I'd hope the mystery man is Michael Edwards and he'd be the dream appointment.

If Levy hires yet another poor fit and old school type like Pinto, he's a moron.

So it will be Pinto. That Gold piece basically insinuates it is him. The fact he and Kilpatrick say we haven't had a face to face meeting with Steiden rings alarm bells. Pinto's name has been mentioned a few times in the last couple of weeks now by separate sources. I think you're going to have to brace yourself that it will be him. As you were so anti Paratici before he signed, I think I'll take your view on Pinto too.

 

[T-Bone]

I'd hope the mystery man is Michael Edwards and he'd be the dream appointment.

If Levy hires yet another poor fit and old school type like Pinto, he's a moron.

Levy "Moron you say....Donna hold my milk, Pinto it is"

 

[felmani26]

The Spors and Nagelsmann connection has been answered by others above. Obviously the overlap at Hoffenheim, but I was actually holding up the Rangnick connection as most notable

But to answer your other question on Tim Steidten, I think it’s a bit easy to say that he and Nagelsmann would be a perfect combo because they’re both German. (To be honest I subconsciously jumped to this conclusion myself)

But when you actually think about it, the fact that they’re both German doesn’t mean that they both like/rate each other at all.

Steidten has actually only been responsible for one managerial appointment in his career, and despite the bounty of great German managers out there he actually opted for a Spaniard in Xabi Alonso.

I wasn't necessarily going down the route of German manager + German sporting director = harmonious partnership - it was more in terms of why, hypothetically of course, could Nagelsmann not be able to fulfill his work here under a guy who's renowned for being a top talent spotter 'tis all.

You make a fair point on the managerial appointment and for me that's a big plus for Steidten in that he can operate with outside the box thinking as it's a brave call to have employed Alonso at his managerial infancy.

 

[dirtyh]

I'd hope the mystery man is Michael Edwards and he'd be the dream appointment.

If Levy hires yet another poor fit and old school type like Pinto, he's a moron.

 

[walton]

For the uneducated (me) among us, can someone advise where the DoF role has really worked? Is it the same as Sporting Director (i.e., which has clearly worked at Liverpool)?

 

[luRRka]

How did Pinto do at Benfica? I remember a while back @rossdapep was talking about how one of the Portuguese teams (pretty sure it was Benfica) really turned it round under a new manager. Did Pinto have anything to do with that?

Are people against him because of alleged Mendes links or because he brought Jose in to Roma?

 

[spursfan77]

Younger, he's only 35 lol, how do you know he's not driven or uses data?

Just look at who has come in at Roma. It's all well known uninspiring transfers.

If he comes in, get ready for the appointment to be another dull Italian or Portuguese manager. It isn't going to be Slot or someone who plays attacking football. It will be the same shit we've been force fed the last 4 years.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

For the uneducated (me) among us, can someone advise where the DoF role has really worked? Is it the same as Sporting Director (i.e., which has clearly worked at Liverpool)?

Liverpool are a great example. Sporting DIrector and Director of Football can be the same thing and the club can give them different remits.

Edwards and Klopp are the perfect example of a Sporting Director and Manager working brilliantly.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

How did Pinto do at Benfica? I remember a while back @rossdapep was talking about how one of the Portuguese teams (pretty sure it was Benfica) really turned it round under a new manager. Did Pinto have anything to do with that?

Are people against him because of alleged Mendes links or because he brought Jose in to Roma?

His managerial appointment at Benfica was Bruno Lage, he has strong ties to Jorge Mendes and he isn't a big data guy like the likes of Edwards, Steidten, Spors etc.