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jambreck

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jesus chr*st. that would be a huge gamble in my opinion. i just don't see a UK franchise working for NFL. Players don't want to be drafted and shunted off to play half their games in the UK, current players who are part of a current franchise also won't want to have to up sticks and move their lives and families because they've been unlucky enough to have their 'team' bought.

Players who belong to a franchise that is moved to a new city will have to "up sticks and move their lives and families" whether they like it or not. It matters not whether that new city is Los Angeles, Toronto or London. There will still be upheaval.

Of course London would be further (but not much further than New York to Seattle, say). The culture would also be unfamiliar. And sure, that might put off many players. But I am quite certain that there are other players who would relish the experience. London is one of the greatest, most historic, most fascinating and most exciting cities in the world, after all. So it might well look, to the adventurous player, like an attractive proposition by comparison to Detroit, say.

Besides, the NFL regular season is only four months long. Pre season could be held in the U.S. It's not like the players would have to spend the entire year in London if they preferred not to. Even during the season itself, the London franchise would likely, as a general rule, play two games "on the road" consecutively in order to minimise transatlantic travel. So, in fact, the players need only spend some two months of the regular season in London. That's really not such a hardship nor a deal breaker.
 

Sandro30

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Will be the Bills. They can be bought relatively cheaply and their owner just died.
 

worcestersauce

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The "Cockney Bills" hmm, I guess it has a certain ring to it.:)
One thing about this NFL stuff, how does it help Tottenham Hotspur Football Club? I imagine the two organisation's financial accounts must be seperate with no cross subsidising so is it just efficiencies and shared stadium costs, would any greater sponsorship be Spurs', the "Cockney bills" or would we only get half of it?
 

Spursidol

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The "Cockney Bills" hmm, I guess it has a certain ring to it.:)
One thing about this NFL stuff, how does it help Tottenham Hotspur Football Club? I imagine the two organisation's financial accounts must be seperate with no cross subsidising so is it just efficiencies and shared stadium costs, would any greater sponsorship be Spurs', the "Cockney bills" or would we only get half of it?

Think its pretty obvious that one stadium being shared by 2 teams (Spurs and NFL) would also share the opertaing costs of the stadium and therefore if Spurs own the stadium we can reduce our own srtadium costs plus probably grant a long lease to the NFL side thereby getting an extra profit.

Ideally we might even see 2 Naming Rights Deals - one when the stadium is being used for NFL games (eg The Wells Fargo Stadium) and another when its used for Spurs games (eg The Virgin Airlines Stadium), that way we find a way to get 2 naming rights deals to fund the stadium build - so it might cost more to build one with a retratble pitch and other modifications to suit NFL but the increase in aming rights reveniues would more than outweigh the increased costs. The 2 naming rights deals would appeal to Levy mimicking the split shirt sponsorship deals (between PL and Cups) we had previously

Even if we coiuldn't get 2 naming rights deals for the stadium I'm sure the attraction of both UK/Europe TV exposure (for Spurs games) and US TV exposure (for NFL games for a single sponsor would mean the sponsor would pay a bigger naming rights deal than just for Spurs (but probably less than having 2 different naming rights deals).
 

worcestersauce

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Think its pretty obvious that one stadium being shared by 2 teams (Spurs and NFL) would also share the opertaing costs of the stadium and therefore if Spurs own the stadium we can reduce our own srtadium costs plus probably grant a long lease to the NFL side thereby getting an extra profit.

Ideally we might even see 2 Naming Rights Deals - one when the stadium is being used for NFL games (eg The Wells Fargo Stadium) and another when its used for Spurs games (eg The Virgin Airlines Stadium), that way we find a way to get 2 naming rights deals to fund the stadium build - so it might cost more to build one with a retratble pitch and other modifications to suit NFL but the increase in aming rights reveniues would more than outweigh the increased costs. The 2 naming rights deals would appeal to Levy mimicking the split shirt sponsorship deals (between PL and Cups) we had previously

Even if we coiuldn't get 2 naming rights deals for the stadium I'm sure the attraction of both UK/Europe TV exposure (for Spurs games) and US TV exposure (for NFL games for a single sponsor would mean the sponsor would pay a bigger naming rights deal than just for Spurs (but probably less than having 2 different naming rights deals).
Yes but how much of that bigger deal would we get, all of it or half of it? If thw NFL franchise is going to be run as nothing more than a milch cow for us then ok we'd get all of it but of course it isn't going to be is it so we would get half(ish) which might be less than a lower amouny on our own.
It may well be that it would all go to the stadium build but if the NFL franchise doesn't own the stadium no way will it accept being used to up the sponsorship without demanding a share.
Also I think Virgin would want in on the US side of things so I wouldn't be too sure the two deal scenario would work.
I'm not being obtuse but I think people are seeing all this as though the NFL would allow a London franchise effectively just to finance Tottenham Hotspur and it won't work out like that.
 

sweetness

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Think its pretty obvious that one stadium being shared by 2 teams (Spurs and NFL) would also share the opertaing costs of the stadium and therefore if Spurs own the stadium we can reduce our own srtadium costs plus probably grant a long lease to the NFL side thereby getting an extra profit.

Ideally we might even see 2 Naming Rights Deals - one when the stadium is being used for NFL games (eg The Wells Fargo Stadium) and another when its used for Spurs games (eg The Virgin Airlines Stadium), that way we find a way to get 2 naming rights deals to fund the stadium build - so it might cost more to build one with a retratble pitch and other modifications to suit NFL but the increase in aming rights reveniues would more than outweigh the increased costs. The 2 naming rights deals would appeal to Levy mimicking the split shirt sponsorship deals (between PL and Cups) we had previously

Even if we coiuldn't get 2 naming rights deals for the stadium I'm sure the attraction of both UK/Europe TV exposure (for Spurs games) and US TV exposure (for NFL games for a single sponsor would mean the sponsor would pay a bigger naming rights deal than just for Spurs (but probably less than having 2 different naming rights deals).
Very insightful post. Time to spill the rest of the beans Daniel. You know you want to!
 

Spursidol

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Yes but how much of that bigger deal would we get, all of it or half of it? If thw NFL franchise is going to be run as nothing more than a milch cow for us then ok we'd get all of it but of course it isn't going to be is it so we would get half(ish) which might be less than a lower amouny on our own.
It may well be that it would all go to the stadium build but if the NFL franchise doesn't own the stadium no way will it accept being used to up the sponsorship without demanding a share.
Also I think Virgin would want in on the US side of things so I wouldn't be too sure the two deal scenario would work.
I'm not being obtuse but I think people are seeing all this as though the NFL would allow a London franchise effectively just to finance Tottenham Hotspur and it won't work out like that.

How the savings get split depends on how its set up contractually - and nobody knows that yet, since the contracts probably are not even yet drafted !

But assuming that Spurs own the stadium, there is no reason why Spurs do not get the majority of the benefits - although I'd expect the NFL side may get say 25% of the cost savings on the stadium operations just to get them to agree to the deal.
 

SandroClegane

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The "Cockney Bills" hmm, I guess it has a certain ring to it.:)
One thing about this NFL stuff, how does it help Tottenham Hotspur Football Club? I imagine the two organisation's financial accounts must be seperate with no cross subsidising so is it just efficiencies and shared stadium costs, would any greater sponsorship be Spurs', the "Cockney bills" or would we only get half of it?
North London Spurs sounds like a good name for an american football team. That would definitely help our brand.
 

SandroClegane

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Yup, but I'd guess the San Antonio Spurs wouldn't be happy.
There is a football Giants and a baseball Giants, a football Cardinals and a baseball Cardinals, there's a basketball Kings and a hockey Kings, I don't think it would be a big deal
 

Lilbaz

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I already posted the links that mpel leaf are looking to buy the bills.
We already have strong links with them.

I do doubt that a london franchise will happen in the next few years, but london is one of the richest cities in the world. The financial hub, and if you wanted to make money you'd put it here.
 

beats1

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North London Spurs sounds like a good name for an american football team. That would definitely help our brand.
Id imagine it would be a more of a british name or london name. It would also likely be something americans understand, though they would probably go for something like the London Red coats which alot of us wouldnt understand
 

SandroClegane

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Id imagine it would be a more of a british name or london name. It would also likely be something americans understand, though they would probably go for something like the London Red coats which alot of us wouldnt understand
I think they'd let Londoners vote on a name/logo so it wouldn't be too american influenced.
 

pook

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North London Spurs sounds like a good name for an american football team. That would definitely help our brand.

no way would it be called 'north london' anything. they're not going to want to narrow their appeal. they would expand on London (England _______s or UK ______s) before they'd contract it. same with the 'spurs' bit, I'd guess. they'll not use anything likely to seem partisan within their potential fanbase, which I suspect they'll view as all of England, if not the UK.
 
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SandroClegane

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no way would it be called 'north london' anything. they're not going to want to narrow their appeal. they would expand on London (England _______s or UK ______s) before they'd contract it. same with the 'spurs' bit, I'd guess. they'll not use anything likely to seem partisan within their potential fanbase, which I suspect they'll view as all of England, if not the UK.
I wasn't really serious, that was my 'trolling arsenal' team name idea
 

CAIN

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The Levy 69's?
The Campbell Turncoats
The Ledley Kings
The Tottenham Foreskins
The Levy Short Sox
 
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