Juan Foyth- Villarreal

[TheVoiceofReason]

Does anybody know for certain whether we have any say in bringing him back or not?

 

[GutBucket]

Does anybody know for certain whether we have any say in bringing him back or not?

He can always refuse Villarreal's contract and stay here. Not sure if he would do that even if we get Poch.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Does anybody know for certain whether we have any say in bringing him back or not?

A couple of articles found to hopefully answer this for you mate. The first one says....

However, his move to the La Liga side includes a optional purchase clause of €15m which must be invoked before the start of next season.

So they have to decide before the start of next season..

Villarreal want Juan Foyth transfer in 2021 - Football Espana

Villarreal are preparing an offer to make Juan Foyth's loan move from Tottenham into a permanent deal this summer.

www.football-espana.net

The loan agreement has a "non mandatory" purchase option. So that suggests we absolutely have a say in bringing him back.

Also, I think it's worth remembering that Foyth actually signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. So I'm thinking (hoping) there was always an intention to bring him back.

Also, as per the article I've linked below. As much as Emery has said he'd like to keep Foyth at Villareal. It also states that they'd be looking to seek a reduction in the pre-agreed purchase option figure.

Now, knowing how our chairman operates, along with the undeniable fact that €15M is an unbelievably low price for an Argentinian international, who's only 23 years old & extremely versatile. I can't see why the heck we'd reduce the fee even lower, especially an already agreed fee. It would be crazy!

But back to the linked article..

Asked if he wanted to keep the player, he said: “If I would keep him? The truth is that it is something that we must wait for. But if it were up to me, yes, I would keep him with us.”

Foyth has made 32 Tottenham appearances and moved to Spain on loan with a ‘non-mandatory’ purchase option of €15m.

Villarreal though will have to make some money selling some players if the LaLiga side are to push ahead with a move. They are also likely to ask for a price reduction on Foyth, whom, per the source, has loads of scope for improvement.

Unai Emery's mind made up over deal for Tottenham loan star

Villarreal boss Unai Emery has admitted he tried to sign Juan Foyth previously and has indicated he would jump at the chance to keep Tottenham loanee.

www.teamtalk.com

 

[al_pacino]

A couple of articles found to hopefully answer this for you mate. The first one says....

However, his move to the La Liga side includes a optional purchase clause of €15m which must be invoked before the start of next season.

So they have to decide before the start of next season..

Villarreal want Juan Foyth transfer in 2021 - Football Espana

Villarreal are preparing an offer to make Juan Foyth's loan move from Tottenham into a permanent deal this summer.

www.football-espana.net

The loan agreement has a "non mandatory" purchase option. So that suggests we absolutely have a say in bringing him back.

Also, I think it's worth remembering that Foyth actually signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. So I'm thinking (hoping) there was always an intention to bring him back.

Also, as per the article I've linked below. As much as Emery has said he'd like to keep Foyth at Villareal. It also states that they'd be looking to seek a reduction in the pre-agreed purchase option figure.

Now, knowing how our chairman operates, along with the undeniable fact that €15M is an unbelievably low price for an Argentinian international, who's only 23 years old & extremely versatile. I can't see why the heck we'd reduce the fee even lower, especially an already agreed fee. It would be crazy!

But back to the linked article..

Asked if he wanted to keep the player, he said: “If I would keep him? The truth is that it is something that we must wait for. But if it were up to me, yes, I would keep him with us.”

Foyth has made 32 Tottenham appearances and moved to Spain on loan with a ‘non-mandatory’ purchase option of €15m.

Villarreal though will have to make some money selling some players if the LaLiga side are to push ahead with a move. They are also likely to ask for a price reduction on Foyth, whom, per the source, has loads of scope for improvement.

Unai Emery's mind made up over deal for Tottenham loan star

Villarreal boss Unai Emery has admitted he tried to sign Juan Foyth previously and has indicated he would jump at the chance to keep Tottenham loanee.

www.teamtalk.com

The CL qualification gives them an instant cash boost and makes the signing inevitable now IMO.

 

[EQP]

A couple of articles found to hopefully answer this for you mate. The first one says....

However, his move to the La Liga side includes a optional purchase clause of €15m which must be invoked before the start of next season.

So they have to decide before the start of next season..

Villarreal want Juan Foyth transfer in 2021 - Football Espana

Villarreal are preparing an offer to make Juan Foyth's loan move from Tottenham into a permanent deal this summer.

www.football-espana.net

The loan agreement has a "non mandatory" purchase option. So that suggests we absolutely have a say in bringing him back.

Also, I think it's worth remembering that Foyth actually signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. So I'm thinking (hoping) there was always an intention to bring him back.

Also, as per the article I've linked below. As much as Emery has said he'd like to keep Foyth at Villareal. It also states that they'd be looking to seek a reduction in the pre-agreed purchase option figure.

Now, knowing how our chairman operates, along with the undeniable fact that €15M is an unbelievably low price for an Argentinian international, who's only 23 years old & extremely versatile. I can't see why the heck we'd reduce the fee even lower, especially an already agreed fee. It would be crazy!

But back to the linked article..

Asked if he wanted to keep the player, he said: “If I would keep him? The truth is that it is something that we must wait for. But if it were up to me, yes, I would keep him with us.”

Foyth has made 32 Tottenham appearances and moved to Spain on loan with a ‘non-mandatory’ purchase option of €15m.

Villarreal though will have to make some money selling some players if the LaLiga side are to push ahead with a move. They are also likely to ask for a price reduction on Foyth, whom, per the source, has loads of scope for improvement.

Unai Emery's mind made up over deal for Tottenham loan star

Villarreal boss Unai Emery has admitted he tried to sign Juan Foyth previously and has indicated he would jump at the chance to keep Tottenham loanee.

www.teamtalk.com

Don't see any reason he would want to come back and wouldn't begrudge him if he stayed at Villareal. The chance to feature in the Champions League and most likely play as the starting RB or the chance to be 2nd choice RB in the ECL and some cup games.

 

[Shadydan]

Does anybody know for certain whether we have any say in bringing him back or not?

Of course we do, he's our player.

 

[Montalbano]

The non-mandatory clause is in Villarreal’s favor — they have the choice whether to sign him at the predetermined fee or not.

Unless there is another non-disclosed clause included in his loan deal, precedent loans would indicate that if personal terms between Foyth and Villarreal are agreed, he becomes a Villarreal player if the option is triggered.

 

[ShayLaB]

- First choice RB (started final after 6 games out)
- CL qualification so they have money to buy.
- Competing for a CL spot every year.
- The weather
- The language.

Not coming back. I appreciate it's not entirely in his
hands but no reason why he would want to.

(If you search for Villreal FC on Google there are fireworks going off on the page. Nice touch)

 

[freeeki]

Of course we do, he's our player.

As far as I understand is, a non-mandatory option puts the ball in their court - they've got the option to sign him, the fact we've given the option suggests we can't back out.

I think we could live to regret putting that clause in there. Another youth prospect woefully mis-managed by this club.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Apologies for misreading/misunderstanding the loan arrangement.

I was just trying to give @TheVoiceofReason an answer to his question.

 

[Snuzzy]

As far as I understand is, a non-mandatory option puts the ball in their court - they've got the option to sign him, the fact we've given the option suggests we can't back out.

I think we could live to regret putting that clause in there. Another youth prospect woefully mis-managed by this club.

In a sense yes, but in another sense, he was only loaned because noone was spending actual cash on players last summer. Otherwise I'm pretty sure we were willing to sell him.

 

[Japhet]

A couple of articles found to hopefully answer this for you mate. The first one says....

However, his move to the La Liga side includes a optional purchase clause of €15m which must be invoked before the start of next season.

So they have to decide before the start of next season..

Villarreal want Juan Foyth transfer in 2021 - Football Espana

Villarreal are preparing an offer to make Juan Foyth's loan move from Tottenham into a permanent deal this summer.

www.football-espana.net

The loan agreement has a "non mandatory" purchase option. So that suggests we absolutely have a say in bringing him back.

Also, I think it's worth remembering that Foyth actually signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. So I'm thinking (hoping) there was always an intention to bring him back.

Also, as per the article I've linked below. As much as Emery has said he'd like to keep Foyth at Villareal. It also states that they'd be looking to seek a reduction in the pre-agreed purchase option figure.

Now, knowing how our chairman operates, along with the undeniable fact that €15M is an unbelievably low price for an Argentinian international, who's only 23 years old & extremely versatile. I can't see why the heck we'd reduce the fee even lower, especially an already agreed fee. It would be crazy!

But back to the linked article..

Asked if he wanted to keep the player, he said: “If I would keep him? The truth is that it is something that we must wait for. But if it were up to me, yes, I would keep him with us.”

Foyth has made 32 Tottenham appearances and moved to Spain on loan with a ‘non-mandatory’ purchase option of €15m.

Villarreal though will have to make some money selling some players if the LaLiga side are to push ahead with a move. They are also likely to ask for a price reduction on Foyth, whom, per the source, has loads of scope for improvement.

Unai Emery's mind made up over deal for Tottenham loan star

Villarreal boss Unai Emery has admitted he tried to sign Juan Foyth previously and has indicated he would jump at the chance to keep Tottenham loanee.

www.teamtalk.com

I'd much rather have Foyth back, but if Villareal think they're entitled to try to negotiate the price down, I'd imagine Levy will equally feel entitled to try to negotiate it up. If they want to chuck the agreed fee out of the window, so be it, but if they try to shaft us, ditching the contract has to be Levy's opening move.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I'd much rather have Foyth back, but if Villareal think they're entitled to try to negotiate the price down, I'd imagine Levy will equally feel entitled to try to negotiate it up. If they want to chuck the agreed fee out of the window, so be it, but if they try to shaft us, ditching the contract has to be Levy's opening move.

Exactly.

I openly admit I'm not the brightest bulb, and seem to have been wrong with previous posts that suggested I felt the ball was in our court, so to speak.

However, people that corrected me, told me that the ball was well and truly in Foyth/Villareals court, as they have the option to decide whether he stays there.

So, please explain to this idiot. Unless they pay the fee that they happily agreed to when they signed the loan agreement. How do Foyth or Villareal hold the ace's here?

I just don't get it. They either pay the fee, or he comes back, surely?

It's already a ridiculously low fee for such a player. Why the hell would we even contemplate negotiating if they seek a lower fee?

 

[Japhet]

Exactly.

I openly admit I'm not the brightest bulb, and seem to have been wrong with previous posts that suggested I felt the ball was in our court, so to speak.

However, people that corrected me, told me that the ball was well and truly in Foyth/Villareals court, as they have the option to decide whether he stays there.

So, please explain to this idiot. Unless they pay the fee that they happily agreed to when they signed the loan agreement. How do Foyth or Villareal hold the ace's here?

I just don't get it. They either pay the fee, or he comes back, surely?

It's already a ridiculously low fee for such a player. Why the hell would we even contemplate negotiating if they seek a lower fee?

The only real sticking point is that Foyth has to agree to go there. That might become harder for them if Pochettino returns to Spurs and Foyth is wanted by him. He's also still our player so we could offer any incentives we like to keep him onboard.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

The only real sticking point is that Foyth has to agree to go there. That might become harder for them if Pochettino returns to Spurs and Foyth is wanted by him. He's also still our player so we could offer any incentives we like to keep him onboard.

Still. Even if he agrees to go there, surely they have no choice themselves unless they pay up what they agreed when they took him on loan?

Also (I know I'm repeating myself) but the lad literally signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. Weird thing to do if he didn't plan on coming back, surely?

 

[neilp]

Still. Even if he agrees to go there, surely they have no choice themselves unless they pay up what they agreed when they took him on loan?

Also (I know I'm repeating myself) but the lad literally signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. Weird thing to do if he didn't plan on coming back, surely?

The contract extension would only benefit the player though, either he signs a permanent contract in Spain or he can come back to us with another year guaranteed if his loan hadn’t worked out.

 

[Japhet]

Still. Even if he agrees to go there, surely they have no choice themselves unless they pay up what they agreed when they took him on loan?

Also (I know I'm repeating myself) but the lad literally signed a contract extension immediately before heading out on loan. Weird thing to do if he didn't plan on coming back, surely?

Seems like he was hopeful of coming back. Might work for us with Mourinho gone and Poch possibly returning.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Seems like he was hopeful of coming back. Might work for us with Mourinho gone and Poch possibly returning.

I know I'm in a minority on this site when it comes to Foyth but, with Aurier opening up about it being time for him to move on. I do really hope that (whoever the new manager is) we bring Foyth back & utilise him at RB.

If we did that, it 'could' save millions of pounds that could go towards strengthening other areas of the team.

We've got a 22 year old Tanganga & potentially a 23 year old Foyth, who are both versatile & could see us set for many years in their respective positions. I think we'd be mad to not at least see what we could get from these 2 young lads.

And yes, there's a reason I've not mentioned the other RB we have on our books. I genuinely believe our 2 youngsters are already better options than The D Word.

 

[Japhet]

I know I'm in a minority on this site when it comes to Foyth but, with Aurier opening up about it being time for him to move on. I do really hope that (whoever the new manager is) we bring Foyth back & utilise him at RB.

If we did that, it 'could' save millions of pounds that could go towards strengthening other areas of the team.

We've got a 22 year old Tanganga & potentially a 23 year old Foyth, who are both versatile & could see us set for many years in their respective positions. I think we'd be mad to not at least see what we could get from these 2 young lads.

And yes, there's a reason I've not mentioned the other RB we have on our books. I genuinely believe our 2 youngsters are already better options than The D Word.

I think with Foyth, Tanganga and Doherty we have one defensive RB, one ball playing RB and one progressive WB. That's not a bad mix if you want to cover all the bases, especially since 2 of those could quite easily fill in at CB.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I think with Foyth, Tanganga and Doherty we have one defensive RB, one ball playing RB and one progressive WB. That's not a bad mix if you want to cover all the bases, especially since 2 of those could quite easily fill in at CB.

Can't argue with that mate.

Just based upon our last few posts, it does seem that RB isn't necessarily our biggest area of concern when it comes to trying to fix the holes in our squad with a Covid induced budget.