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To be fair Sturridge was out for half the season, so that only left him with 4 strikers availableHow many of his first choice players was Klopp missing?
To be fair Sturridge was out for half the season, so that only left him with 4 strikers availableHow many of his first choice players was Klopp missing?
Hang on at the start I listed a few teams who due to the ambitious nature of their owners win things, it was you who took city out and named them to suit your argument.I didn't ask about Barca or Real. I was talking about City - a team that have, as far as FFP is concerned cheated.
You are switching your point to distract from the failings of your argument.
We are not trying to win the tin pot. Nobody is, not even City. It's the league and the Champs that matter.
City won it while being guilty of financial doping.
The anti-Levy argument is basically "why can't we just cheat like City". Well, you see what happens, that's why.
How many of his first choice players was Klopp missing?
Meanwhile, our own manager setting up with 5 centre-backs against Burnley, conceding after 13 minutes while sitting back, is trying to lay blame on a player playing his first season riddled with injuries in a new league, playing alongside a academy graduate that started his first game of the season.
Let's not even discuss how absolutely rudderless we looked (and have looked for most of his games in charge) besides the Ndombele 'issue'.
All teams suddenly start to play better when they get a world class striker, we won't really know until next season when our team is hopefully healthy again. This season is lost and complete shit, best case Skipp and Tanganga get some experience for next season, not much else to do. I am only concerned about defense, I expected Mourinho to do a lot better in that department (even though he doesn't have too much to work with), I think Rui Faria had great impact in his teams defensively and he is missing it currently. To play pretty football you need quick fullbacks and a good nr. 10 or a striker (ideally both), currently we don't have plenty of those. All good defensive teams have good DMs and CBs and we are lacking in that department too. We are kind of fucked, no way we can bring that many players to seriously compete unless some academy kids step up and become good.
I agree. You can't just say "the injured players are strikers but we are conceding so clearly it's not the injuries but the manager fucking us over".It's depressing that the "anti-Mourinho" brigade are infecting every single thread. A lot of shouty, its Mourinho's fault, posts like:
- Our defence is embarrassing - ignoring the fact it was just as bad, if not worse, under Pochettino.
- Our build up play is shocking - ignoring the fact that we have nobody upfront who can hold the ball up & release some pressure from our defence.
- Why do we only start playing better towards the end of games - this is the one that does my head in. The reason is we are playing teams that still regard us as a big team & a point is a great thing, so they retreat to try and maintain the result, hence we have more of the ball, hence we start to attack better as our front players no longer need to hold the ball up.
- We never look like scoring under Mourinho - well ok.......think about it, we have Alli who scores every now & then, Lucas who hardly ever scores & Bergwijn who has just joined the league, that's it.
- Mourinho out - these posts, or similar ones, are the worst. He has been here 3 months, without incredibly important players.
I genuinely believe there should be a "I don't like Mourinho" thread for those people to go in & write it over & over & over so that they feel better. He isn't going anywhere, it's that simple.
I've also seen calls for us to ditch him & bring in the new brand of manager like Brendan Rodgers, however these people have gone fairly quiet considering they have 1 win in 7 games and are playing terrible football. Reason being........Vardy & Ndidi are missing. So it just goes to show that not having your best players, in very important positions, affects a football team! WHO KNEW!
Capital letters at the end mate look who is shouting nowIt's depressing that the "anti-Mourinho" brigade are infecting every single thread. A lot of shouty, its Mourinho's fault, posts like:
- Our defence is embarrassing - ignoring the fact it was just as bad, if not worse, under Pochettino.
- Our build up play is shocking - ignoring the fact that we have nobody upfront who can hold the ball up & release some pressure from our defence.
- Why do we only start playing better towards the end of games - this is the one that does my head in. The reason is we are playing teams that still regard us as a big team & a point is a great thing, so they retreat to try and maintain the result, hence we have more of the ball, hence we start to attack better as our front players no longer need to hold the ball up.
- We never look like scoring under Mourinho - well ok.......think about it, we have Alli who scores every now & then, Lucas who hardly ever scores & Bergwijn who has just joined the league, that's it.
- Mourinho out - these posts, or similar ones, are the worst. He has been here 3 months, without incredibly important players.
I genuinely believe there should be a "I don't like Mourinho" thread for those people to go in & write it over & over & over so that they feel better. He isn't going anywhere, it's that simple.
I've also seen calls for us to ditch him & bring in the new brand of manager like Brendan Rodgers, however these people have gone fairly quiet considering they have 1 win in 7 games and are playing terrible football. Reason being........Vardy & Ndidi are missing. So it just goes to show that not having your best players, in very important positions, affects a football team! WHO KNEW!
Those clubs will continue to win things before or after FFP mate city have just won another trophy last weekend, your living in Dreamland if you think this club is geared up for a period of success.
Read what Mr chairman says and it's all there he believes that there is nothing to suggest that investing heavily brings no success, and that the club will continue its path to er success but the funds will be limited as no European football next year.
Anti levy banner really lightyyes because bar City & Chelsea those other clubs have always been massive clubs and dominated their leagues. they have always been able to pay top dollar for players with paying wages, and haven't spent 1b on a stadium in the last 30 years compared to just 10. for most of those 30 years we weren't even in Europe and played 28 years in a stadium of 36k.
City and Chelsea both have spent 1.8b and City have spent that in 5 years less, they have had a 50k+ stadium for 12years and are owned by a friggin country, quite a difference and have been able to build a massive squad on massive wages, with possible illegal sponsors.
please tell me how we could have spent that kind of money, met FFP every season and paying over double our now salaries when in a small stadium?
if you can give me an answer other than them spending a billion in their 1st 7 years of their own money to build what both Chelsea and City have, because we could have never earnt it on gates and merchandise income to meet the FFP at the old WHL, and met FFP once it kicked in without having to sell the whole squad and play our youth in the PL, and then get a finance deal with being near on 2b in debt, I will become an anti enic like you and will sit outside Spurs with a banner.
don't come back with the 8th richest club crap either because we have only got in the top 10 the last 2 seasons
Capital letters at the end mate look who is shouting now
I cry into my soup... but that's because I hate soup.I've said it 3 or four times. Our beloved spurs were boo'd off the pitch in Nov of 2014 after 4 home losses out of 5, 4 months in to Pochs reign.
No one is saying we will improve or reach the Poch level of footie. But maybe, just maybe 4 months is too soon for everyone to be crying into their cereal.
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It's depressing that the "anti-Mourinho" brigade are infecting every single thread. A lot of shouty, its Mourinho's fault, posts like:
- Our defence is embarrassing - ignoring the fact it was just as bad, if not worse, under Pochettino.
- Our build up play is shocking - ignoring the fact that we have nobody upfront who can hold the ball up & release some pressure from our defence.
- Why do we only start playing better towards the end of games - this is the one that does my head in. The reason is we are playing teams that still regard us as a big team & a point is a great thing, so they retreat to try and maintain the result, hence we have more of the ball, hence we start to attack better as our front players no longer need to hold the ball up.
- We never look like scoring under Mourinho - well ok.......think about it, we have Alli who scores every now & then, Lucas who hardly ever scores & Bergwijn who has just joined the league, that's it.
- Mourinho out - these posts, or similar ones, are the worst. He has been here 3 months, without incredibly important players.
I genuinely believe there should be a "I don't like Mourinho" thread for those people to go in & write it over & over & over so that they feel better. He isn't going anywhere, it's that simple.
I've also seen calls for us to ditch him & bring in the new brand of manager like Brendan Rodgers, however these people have gone fairly quiet considering they have 1 win in 7 games and are playing terrible football. Reason being........Vardy & Ndidi are missing. So it just goes to show that not having your best players, in very important positions, affects a football team! WHO KNEW!
And do you not believe that the loss to injury of the targets of those balls being got 'up there' has played a part? And if you don't have those targets, how can it be an effective approach?I said that the tactical problem under Pochettino for the last year was that he built a side on the basis of a rock solid back four and keeper that could defend aggressively (e.g higher up the pitch). All of the fluid attacking play depended on that solid base.
Over the years that back four became less aggressive with Walker leaving, Rose losing form and getting injured and both Alderweireld and Vertonghen losing a yard of pace. Lloris as well dipped form, has been less likely to play the sweeper role and then got badly injured. We just simply do not have a top 4 defence and haven't for two seasons.
We're still trying to play the same way though and it doesn't work and won't work. We should have accepted that we're not going to be solid defensively and instead played to our strengths. Lots of very creative midfielders who can score goals and a world class front man. Set up to play aggressive, creative football and accept we're going to concede a few. Gamble on us being able to outscore pretty much everyone except the top 2 or 3 clubs and get enough points to hold a Champions League spot. Maybe win a cup in the process. Then complete the badly needed rebuild over the summer with an actual plan.
Instead of taking that gamble and going for it all guns blazing we're dying a death of a thousand cuts. The reason Mourinho had a patch of success early doors is that he directed us to be more direct and get the ball up there rather than faffing about. We were more aggressive and it paid off, at least for a while. It didn't carry on because it was only the very most basic of attacking strategies and it needed developing a lot further.
Tbf, he’s played Tanganga so I’m not sure this post is fair, tbh.
The additional problem being experienced at the present time is that the opposition know we dont have an out and out striker and know how we are going to playIt's depressing that the "anti-Mourinho" brigade are infecting every single thread. A lot of shouty, its Mourinho's fault, posts like:
- Our defence is embarrassing - ignoring the fact it was just as bad, if not worse, under Pochettino.
- Our build up play is shocking - ignoring the fact that we have nobody upfront who can hold the ball up & release some pressure from our defence.
- Why do we only start playing better towards the end of games - this is the one that does my head in. The reason is we are playing teams that still regard us as a big team & a point is a great thing, so they retreat to try and maintain the result, hence we have more of the ball, hence we start to attack better as our front players no longer need to hold the ball up.
- We never look like scoring under Mourinho - well ok.......think about it, we have Alli who scores every now & then, Lucas who hardly ever scores & Bergwijn who has just joined the league, that's it.
- Mourinho out - these posts, or similar ones, are the worst. He has been here 3 months, without incredibly important players.
I genuinely believe there should be a "I don't like Mourinho" thread for those people to go in & write it over & over & over so that they feel better. He isn't going anywhere, it's that simple.
I've also seen calls for us to ditch him & bring in the new brand of manager like Brendan Rodgers, however these people have gone fairly quiet considering they have 1 win in 7 games and are playing terrible football. Reason being........Vardy & Ndidi are missing. So it just goes to show that not having your best players, in very important positions, affects a football team! WHO KNEW!
Those clubs will continue to win things before or after FFP mate city have just won another trophy last weekend, your living in Dreamland if you think this club is geared up for a period of success.
Read what Mr chairman says and it's all there he believes that there is nothing to suggest that investing heavily brings no success, and that the club will continue its path to er success but the funds will be limited as no European football next year.
Anti levy banner really lighty
You now need to drop your keyboard, Danny.It's depressing that the "anti-Mourinho" brigade are infecting every single thread. A lot of shouty, its Mourinho's fault, posts like:
- Our defence is embarrassing - ignoring the fact it was just as bad, if not worse, under Pochettino.
- Our build up play is shocking - ignoring the fact that we have nobody upfront who can hold the ball up & release some pressure from our defence.
- Why do we only start playing better towards the end of games - this is the one that does my head in. The reason is we are playing teams that still regard us as a big team & a point is a great thing, so they retreat to try and maintain the result, hence we have more of the ball, hence we start to attack better as our front players no longer need to hold the ball up.
- We never look like scoring under Mourinho - well ok.......think about it, we have Alli who scores every now & then, Lucas who hardly ever scores & Bergwijn who has just joined the league, that's it.
- Mourinho out - these posts, or similar ones, are the worst. He has been here 3 months, without incredibly important players.
I genuinely believe there should be a "I don't like Mourinho" thread for those people to go in & write it over & over & over so that they feel better. He isn't going anywhere, it's that simple.
I've also seen calls for us to ditch him & bring in the new brand of manager like Brendan Rodgers, however these people have gone fairly quiet considering they have 1 win in 7 games and are playing terrible football. Reason being........Vardy & Ndidi are missing. So it just goes to show that not having your best players, in very important positions, affects a football team! WHO KNEW!