Jose Mourinho

[Dougal]

I would also fully support Mourinho after the proposed labotomy.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Doesn’t sound much like a manager who felt he had been backed.

I wouldn't know, I'm only privy to what I read on here and what I choose to read in the media ... Seems to be a difference in information so ...

When you say backed I mean, that's open to all sorts of interpretation.

 

[Dougal]

I wouldn't know, I'm only privy to what I read on here and what I choose to read in the media ... Seems to be a difference in information so ...

When you say backed I mean, that's open to all sorts of interpretation.

Isn’t everything? It’s why I back my own judgement on what I see rather than what I hear.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I may not be a season ticket holder but I have attended all but 3 home games this season and missed only handfuls in the last 3 seasons

I can only comment for myself and make assumptions based on my own feelings and that of people I know

Personally, yes, absolutely

I have no problem with Jose per say, in as far as I have no agenda against him and I was in fact hopefully he would bring something magical to the team and revitalise us, bring that winning quality and take us to the next level

I always liked him and always thought he was a fantastic manager and a serial winner

I never had any doubts about him until his stint and Man U, when I thought he under achieved having spent a lot of money (so that was the only thing to give me even the slightest doubt when he was hired)

When he came in I gave him 100% benefit of doubt

I was happy that he got some positive results when he first took over, I didn't think we really improved that much and was concerned with the goals we were shipping, but I was happy he got us winning again and moving up the table

So if he was showing signs of making us play well, or at least play effectively, I'd be well on board the Jose train

But to me it looks like we still need this giant, painful rebuild and I am failing to see what he is likely to offer moving forward above and beyond what Poch would have been able to offer

To me his tactics have looked tired and awful, we look passive, disjointed and disinterested. I think the signs are more negative than positive and it seems more likely that the nay sayers who predicted Jose's time has passed and the game has moved on without him will be proved right than it is likely that Jose will prove them wrong and show he has evolved with the times and take us to glory

It just seems again that Levy has made a similar mistake to when he hired AVB, thinking he will get different results than what has happened elsewhere. AVB showed at Chelsea that he wasn't up to it, Levy hired him thinking things would be different with us, Jose showed at Man U that he was no longer at the very top, yet Levy thought it would be different with us

Unless he gets major investment to reinvent the squad, I can't see him leading us to glory and I have my doubts he can do it even if he does get the money

I would love him to prove me wrong and will support him and the team whenever I am at the stadium (starting against Man U on Sunday) but as a fan I will express my concerns and opinions to my friends and places like this, because that's part of what makes football as engaging and exciting as it is

Yes, lots of writing, no time or patience though.

Chuffed you made it to the games, pipe dream for someone like me.

Bit in bold - not aimed at just you, I always find it ever so odd people post this, I mean, it basically undermines everything you've just written on the positive side of things - and he'll never know anyway.

I'll wait until after we've sold Kane, Lloris and the rest, see where the money goes, see what happens in the preseason, see how we turn out for our first 4 - 5 league matches.

Until then, I guess it's moaning, despair and gnashing of teeth. Levy, ENIC and Jose ... It'll be a long summer for some. If we make it.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Isn’t everything? It’s why I back my own judgement on what I see rather than what I hear.

I mean, if you've already made your mind up ...

 

[Trotter]

Are you talking about Paul Mitchell?
Cause I thought it was Poch who wanted rid?

The same Mitchell who brought in N'jie and N'kodou?

I'm all for criticising the club but let's make sure it's accurate before we do.

That would be the same Paul Mitchell that Mauricio Pochettino, who brought him to the club, and tried to persuade him to stay at the club, after he fell out with Levy, after Levy kept knocking back all his recommendations would it ?
The Paul Mitchell that said his dream job turned into a nightmare , and resigned his position despite having no other job to go to.

The same Paul Mitchelll that brought in Dele, Trippier and Toby, and just had the last laugh on us as he has been Leipzig's head of recruitment for the last 2 years.

 

[Dougal]

I mean, if you've already made your mind up ...

Well, I’d love to be proved wrong...

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Well, I’d love to be proved wrong...

Nah, you wouldn't, you'd rather wallow.

 

[S0S]

Yes, lots of writing, no time or patience though.

Chuffed you made it to the games, pipe dream for someone like me.

Bit in bold - not aimed at just you, I always find it ever so odd people post this, I mean, it basically undermines everything you've just written on the positive side of things - and he'll never know anyway.

I'll wait until after we've sold Kane, Lloris and the rest, see where the money goes, see what happens in the preseason, see how we turn out for our first 4 - 5 league matches.

Until then, I guess it's moaning, despair and gnashing of teeth. Levy, ENIC and Jose ... It'll be a long summer for some. If we make it.

I have patience, I am still going to the games and still supporting the team (and manager)

I don't see why you think I am undermining myself

I am giving my personal opinions on the situation based on what I have observed so far and how I think things are likely to unfold and I am qualifying that I hope to be proven wrong as I am aware I am no football expert, just a passionate fan

I want the best for the club, I want Jose to do well, I just don't think he will

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I have patience, I am still going to the games and still supporting the team (and manager)

I don't see why you think I am undermining myself

I am giving my personal opinions on the situation based on what I have observed so far and how I think things are likely to unfold and I am qualifying that I hope to be proven wrong as I am aware I am no football expert, just a passionate fan

I want the best for the club, I want Jose to do well, I just don't think it will

No hope then? All passionate fans have hope ...

 

[S0S]

No hope then? All passionate fans have hope ...

when did I say I had no hope?

I HOPE to be proven wrong

 

[Shadydan]

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That would be the same Paul Mitchell that Mauricio Pochettino, who brought him to the club, and tried to persuade him to stay at the club, after he fell out with Levy, after Levy kept knocking back all his recommendations would it ?
The Paul Mitchell that said his dream job turned into a nightmare , and resigned his position despite having no other job to go to.

The same Paul Mitchelll that brought in Dele, Trippier and Toby, and just had the last laugh on us as he has been Leipzig's head of recruitment for the last 2 years.

Wasn't that Pleat?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

when did I say I had no hope?

I didn't see it used in all the other words. It's normally among them all.

 

[GutBucket]

That would be the same Paul Mitchell that Mauricio Pochettino, who brought him to the club, and tried to persuade him to stay at the club, after he fell out with Levy, after Levy kept knocking back all his recommendations would it ?
The Paul Mitchell that said his dream job turned into a nightmare , and resigned his position despite having no other job to go to.

The same Paul Mitchelll that brought in Dele, Trippier and Toby, and just had the last laugh on us as he has been Leipzig's head of recruitment for the last 2 years.

It wasn't Mitchell that brought Dele, he was recommended by Pleat and it was cheap enough for Levy to sanction it. Leipzig have very strict set of rules when it comes to player purchase and philosophy that predates Mitchell. Getting Olmo and trying to get Haland were nice moves though.

 

[S0S]

I didn't see it used in all the other words. It's normally among them all.

I have lots of hope

That's why I've already bought tickets for the Man U, Everton, Arsenal and Leicester games for me and my dad

I wouldn't spend so much money on tickets and at the stadium if I didn't still love going to the games with my old man and hope we win every time

I am just vocalising my opinions based on what I have seen thus far, Jose doesn't seem to have had any real positive impact on the squad to date and hasn't shown any real signs to suggest he is the right man for this job

Other than his past record, which is all in a by gone era like Van Gaal before he went to Man U

I think we dropped the ball on this one and fear we should have looked at the next Klopp, someone more progressive and ready to take us forward, not try to replicate past success when the playing field has changed

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I have lots of hope

That's why I've already bought tickets for the Man U, Everton, Arsenal and Leicester games for me and my dad

I wouldn't spend so much money on tickets and at the stadium if I didn't still love going to the games with my old man and hope we win every time

I am just vocalising my opinions based on what I have seen thus far, Jose doesn't seem to have had any real positive impact on the squad to date and hasn't shown any real signs to suggest he is the right man for this job

Other than his past record, which is all in a by gone era like Van Gaal before he went to Man U

I think we dropped the ball on this one and fear we should have looked at the next Klopp, someone more progressive and ready to take us forward, not try to replicate past success when the playing field has changed

Eddie Howe or Ralph Hassenhuttl? They'd have probably got Danny Rose onside and we'd have had a proper left back still playing for us.

 

[pelayo59]

That would be the same Paul Mitchell that Mauricio Pochettino, who brought him to the club, and tried to persuade him to stay at the club, after he fell out with Levy, after Levy kept knocking back all his recommendations would it ?
The Paul Mitchell that said his dream job turned into a nightmare , and resigned his position despite having no other job to go to.

The same Paul Mitchelll that brought in Dele, Trippier and Toby, and just had the last laugh on us as he has been Leipzig's head of recruitment for the last 2 years.

Pleat brought Dele. Saw that today on Twitter, every good signing is made by Mitchell and the bad ones made by Levy. And he even build RB Leipzig squad even their crucial members joined them before!

 

[topper]

No hope then? All passionate fans have hope ...

I know a few spammers who are extremely passionate about their club but will admit that hope left that part of town a while back!

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I know a few spammers who are extremely passionate about their club bu will admit that hope left that part of town a while back!

We have a lot in common with them it seems. I look forward to demonstrations next.

 

[S0S]

Eddie Howe or Ralph Hassenhuttl? They'd have probably got Danny Rose onside and we'd have had a proper left back still playing for us.

I wouldn't personally have picked either of those

Although I am not sure either would be doing any worse than Jose in this current run

I think he has written off this season and wants to rebuild

I don't think he is the man to get the most out of modest means, I don't think he's going to get riches to spend under Levy and I think its a poor match

It's up to Jose to prove he still has got what it takes to be a top manager in the modern game, it's unlikely he will achieve any of the objectives he was brought in for this season

He will get a transfer window, preseason and start with a clean slate, we'll see next season what he has left to give