Jose Mourinho

[RikkiRocket]

Mourinho…in the ES


Tottenham manager Jose Mourinho says Chelsea were superior on Sunday, pointing to Frank Lampard’s decision to revert to a three-man defence.
The Portuguese has enjoyed a positive start to life with Spurs but his only two Premier League defeats have come against his two former clubs; Manchester United and Chelsea.
Mourinho had never lost a home match against a previous club in any competition, winning 12 and drawing one, but his former midfielder Frank Lampard totally outwitted his old mentor in a game marred by alleged racist abuse towards Antonio Rudiger.
“They were better than us in the first half. It is not difficult for me to admit it,” Mourinho told reporters.
“They played in a system they are very comfortable with. A system they played for two years with Antonio Conte. Lots of their players are very comfortable with it”


I like this by Mourinho,I don't think Poch would have been as honest as this. Usually he would have found some excuses. As long as Mourinho stays on this route he will learn as he is not afraid to admit his own mistakes. In this case he does say they played better than us and also Lampard got it right (using Contes system etc) That's why I think even Mourinho is an experienced manager that he is not so stuck on his own thinking (not now anyway) and he can still learn

the real question i guess is how he let them be better than us. He picked the team. He’s seen us play enough now surely to see strengths and weakness. All this “not having enough time” is pure expectation management, an excuse basically.

 

[teok]

16 Conclusions: Tottenham 0-2 Chelsea - Football365

Football365 - Jose Mourinho mocked Frank Lampard's tactics after the game and copied them during it. That's close to humiliating.

www.football365.com

Lots of good points here.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The hoof ball is a direct result of us having to bypass our own midfield because they don’t want and can’t use the ball; embarrassing to start with Dier and Sissoko again.

I did point this out at the begining but I was pilloried for having an agenda against the manager.

It just seems naive in the extreme to play two central midfielders who are just not comfortable on the ball which means our centre backs are then forced to hoof it. The knock on effect is that we then have no control over the match and continually invite pressure on the defence which eventually lead to mistakes. To compound this we have Sissoko having to constantly cover Aurier on the right meaning there is a giant hole in the midfield for Chelsea to exploit.

I could understand if we didn't have any midfielders on the bench who skillsets meant they were actually able to take the ball underpressure and zip it around but NDombele and Winks were sat there probably as confused as the rest of us why at least one of them didn't start.

I see alot of you blaming individual players for how we played but to me tactically we were set up all wrong. In fact I don't like how we have been set up tactically since Mourinho come in. Yes it has got results but we are far too open because we have zero control of matches. We just have good attacking players so the thinking is if we get it to them quick enough eventually they will score. That's fine against bottom half teams as they won't always take advantage of us ceding control to them but i'm really hoping we develop a more possession based strategy. It is just not feasible to get bossed by good teams every time we come against them - and it certainly means top 4 won't be an option.

 

[Ronwol196061]

I did point this out at the begining but I was pilloried for having an agenda against the manager.

It just seems naive in the extreme to play two central midfielders who are just not comfortable on the ball which means our centre backs are then forced to hoof it. The knock on effect is that we then have no control over the match and continually invite pressure on the defence which eventually lead to mistakes. To compound this we have Sissoko having to constantly cover Aurier on the right meaning there is a giant hole in the midfield for Chelsea to exploit.

I could understand if we didn't have any midfielders on the bench who skillsets meant they were actually able to take the ball underpressure and zip it around but NDombele and Winks were sat there probably as confused as the rest of why at least one of them didn't start.

I see alot of you blaming individual players for how we played but to me tactically we were set up all wrong. In fact I don't like how we have been set up tactically since Mourinho come in. Yes it has got results but we are far too open because we have zero control of matches. We just have good attacking players so the thinking is if we get it to them quick enough eventually they will score. That's fine against bottom half teams as they won't always take advantage of us ceding control to them but i'm really hoping we develop a more possession based strategy. It is just not feasible to get bossed by good teams every time we come against them - and it certainly means top 4 won't be an option.

I would agree with you generally and hope Mourinho will learn.He has been honest in his assessments so there is a chance.
I guess that there were 3 reasons for the tactics yesterday.
One is that he has had success with the long ball finding gaps.
Add that to the fact that Lampard historically likes to play in the front foot and thirdly maybe Mourinho didnt have complete confidence in Ndombeles health and Winks has rarely been used as a creative CM
The key is can Mourinho learn. There's a chance considering the honesty of his interviews

 

[JCRD]

I did point this out at the begining but I was pilloried for having an agenda against the manager.

It just seems naive in the extreme to play two central midfielders who are just not comfortable on the ball which means our centre backs are then forced to hoof it. The knock on effect is that we then have no control over the match and continually invite pressure on the defence which eventually lead to mistakes. To compound this we have Sissoko having to constantly cover Aurier on the right meaning there is a giant hole in the midfield for Chelsea to exploit.

I could understand if we didn't have any midfielders on the bench who skillsets meant they were actually able to take the ball underpressure and zip it around but NDombele and Winks were sat there probably as confused as the rest of why at least one of them didn't start.

I see alot of you blaming individual players for how we played but to me tactically we were set up all wrong. In fact I don't like how we have been set up tactically since Mourinho come in. Yes it has got results but we are far too open because we have zero control of matches. We just have good attacking players so the thinking is if we get it to them quick enough eventually they will score. That's fine against bottom half teams as they won't always take advantage of us ceding control to them but i'm really hoping we develop a more possession based strategy. It is just not feasible to get bossed by good teams every time we come against them - and it certainly means top 4 won't be an option.

I agree with thise totally. You cant blame players for playing as its the Manager that is putting those plahyers in. You cant blame the players if theyre not comfortable in their positions because its the manager that is putting them in those positions.

I cant really blame players when, like you say, tactically we are set up all wrong... we get the ball and hoof it to Kane as if he is Drogba, he isnt Drogba... the ball just kept coming back, a bit like against Wolves.

Our players looked like they had no clue out there yesterday. I genuinely was expecting us to come out all guns blazing but we came out with a whimper and ended with a whimper.

 

[buckley]

I have just one question would Ndombele / LeCelso / Sessegnon / Foyth / Winks / be better for the team than Aurier / Dier / Moura / also Verthongen lack of speed is being exposed and my selection would have no chance of happening but here it is .
Gassaniga
Foyth Sanches Verhongen Alderrireld Sessegnon
Winks Ndombele. Le Celso
Dele Kane
No Son as out for three games and Moura is in and out More out than in ; Aurier =shambles Dier = just not skilful enough

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Nothing over reactionary about these posts at all, I think we ought to wait until we have at least a competent midfielder who can move the ball up the pitch before we judge, might be worth giving him more than 7 matches as well.

Poch and now Jose is struggling to get something out of this team which tells you where the problems lay.

Wilder at Sheff Utd, is getting a mighty fine tune out of his squad of players, who all to a man on paper are inferior to ours. Maybe it's down to way they are coached or maybe not coached.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

Liverpool bypass their midfield.

Maybe one day we can.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Every team is in transition till they get to the promised land

Since we won the league in 1960-61 the following teams have won the league.. We've failed on 59 occasions,which when you put into context, who have won the title, it's no wonder we are seen by many as perennial underachievers.
Ipswich
Everton x 3
Liverpool x 19
Man Utd x 13
Leeds x 3
Arsenal x 6
Derby x 2
Forest
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Leicester
Chelsea x 5
Man City x 4

 

[Shadydan]

Transition is such a useless term.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Since we won the league in 1960-61 the following teams have won the league.. We've failed on 59 occasions,which when you put into context, who have won the title, it's no wonder we are seen by many as perennial underachievers.
Ipswich
Everton x 3
Liverpool x 19
Man Utd x 13
Leeds x 3
Arsenal x 6
Derby x 2
Forest
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Leicester
Chelsea x 5
Man City x 4

Dont fucking remind me!!!
60 fucking years of ulcers

 

[John48]

Don't think you can write Jose off yet, but he needs to show he's learning & knows how to get the best out of the players we have & as Lumpard has shown introducing youngsters & having confidence in them goes a long way!

As many have said elsewhere he needs to introduce players like Foyth, Sess, Skipp & Lo Celso, plus N'Dombele has to be a given surely.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Transition is such a useless term.

It's a moving target

 

[PLTuck]

Honeymoon over then I see.

FFS give the bloke time. He has had 1 month in a job with a team that has been together for 5+ years. It'll take time.

I didn't even want Jose, but now he's here you are damn right I'm behind him.

 

[Gassin's finest]

"I wish Rudiger a speedy recovery from his broken ribs"



Shithouse Jose is back.

 

[Cochise]

I don't think it's a case of being honeymoon over, but more the fans wanting him to see what we can all so clearly see. Jose hasn't come this far without dealing with this shit in the past and I imagine we will see improvements over the coming months. It's just infuriating that the mess that is Sissoko/Dier is still being pedalled out.

As a caveat to that though, I will say that Jose has already stated that he doesn't view Sissoko as a CM. N'Dombele and Winks have both been injured for the last few games and will need working into the side.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I agree with thise totally. You cant blame players for playing as its the Manager that is putting those plahyers in.

Who is he supposed to put in? People cry out for Winks instead of Sissoko or Ndombele instead of Dier or him instead of her (for example) and still the same thing happens. There is no magic answer, it needs better players, I would have thought that was obvious by now. Too many of the players we have are, for a variety of reasons, simply not good enough. You can't blame the players but you can blame the manager who inherited this shower of shit. Yeah, that turd won't float

 

[Gassin's finest]

I don't think it's a case of being honeymoon over, but more the fans wanting him to see what we can all so clearly see. Jose hasn't come this far without dealing with this shit in the past and I imagine we will see improvements over the coming months. It's just infuriating that the mess that is Sissoko/Dier is still being pedalled out.

As a caveat to that though, I will say that Jose has already stated that he doesn't view Sissoko as a CM. N'Dombele and Winks have both been injured for the last few games and will need working into the side.

Has he? In the past he's always walked into clubs with massive budgets and world class squads. I'd say this is the first time he's having to pull an ailing team up without that backing.

 

[stonebrow]

Don't think you can write Jose off yet, but he needs to show he's learning & knows how to get the best out of the players we have & as Lumpard has shown introducing youngsters & having confidence in them goes a long way!

As many have said elsewhere he needs to introduce players like Foyth, Sess, Skipp & Lo Celso, plus N'Dombele has to be a given surely.

This shouldn’t even need saying...no one should be written off after a matter of weeks in a job!

 

[JCRD]

Who is he supposed to put in? People cry out for Winks instead of Sissoko or Ndombele instead of Dier or him instead of her (for example) and still the same thing happens. There is no magic answer, it needs better players, I would have thought that was obvious by now. Too many of the players we have are, for a variety of reasons, simply not good enough. You can't blame the players but you can blame the manager who inherited this shower of shit. Yeah, that turd won't float

I agree he needs better players, ive said that I think our squad is overrated, it isnt necessarily a talented squad but has some talented players... it also has some glaring gaps.

In the meantime though, iff you dont have the players to suit the formation then you tweak it... we also criticised Poch for being rigid.

I mean are our midfielders SO BAD that we basically play a 404 by hoofing it? Im not sitting here saying we get rid of Jose but also think Jose isnt helping himself too much with the performances such as those against Manure and Chelscum.

If we lose then fine, but did we have one shot on target? I think one...

I dont think we will be seeing a Dier/Sissoko pairing again, i bet Jose wanted to sub Dier int he first half but waited till HT so as not to embarrass him (again!)