Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[DanielJohnCosta]

Yeah that would be true if that’s what he actually said, which he didn’t. He said Historically they are a bigger club than ours. That’s why I said, context means everything

which if you read it like that still makes zero sense and is once again an excuse he is using to hide his own incompetence

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Or maybe, just maybe, he was trying to lift the players after a really hard week and didn't want them to feel too down going out to an historically more successful club than us?

But that wouldn't suit the narrative I suppose.

you're trolling, yeh?

 

[spurs mental]

you're trolling, yeh?

You're biased, yeah?

 

[chrisd2k]

On the flip side maybe you should humble yourself because we’ve been in one CL final, which we didn’t even show up for yet we have nothing to show for it. Atleast Conte has won some of the finals he’s managed to make it too.

You really need to learn the place as spurs fans in the grand scheme of things. We’ve won fuck all since 2008. There’s a reason why most of the other football fans think spurs fans are delusional.

You have this sense of superiority as a club over Conte, and it was the same with Mourinho yet one has won more trophies as a manager and the other half the trophies we have as a club IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY.

It’s not talking down on the club when he’s stating facts. Just because a few of you had your feelings hurt by it doesn’t make it any less true.

Humility goes a long way.

Hes done his work well. Its not about superiority, in fact its the exact opposite with both parties showing each other respect which fails when one starts talking down, the other is bound to defend itself.

 

[Timberwolf]

Or maybe, just maybe, he was trying to lift the players after a really hard week and didn't want them to feel too down going out to an historically more successful club than us?

But that wouldn't suit the narrative I suppose.

I mean if you really believe that then good for you, but that reeks of trying to construct your own narrative more than anything.

Practically nothing Conte ever says in press conferences comes across like he's trying to lift the players.

 

[Johnny J]

Disagree strongly.

We are a club in a bit of a bind right now - because we don't know if our DOF will be here next month. So, we are not really in a great position to evaluate managers for next season. And, if we don't know exactly who we want now - there is no reason to hire a caretaker, when Conte is better positioned to deliver results this season.

It would save everyone a lot of grief if Spurs/Conte jointly announce that Conte would see out his contract, and then leave in the summer. Players and staff can then focus on the remaining games without all the distractions. Its also possible that Conte leaving is not a sure thing - hence not announcing anything.

As supporters - we should be focused on supporting the team/manager we have now, and spend less time dreaming of managers we don't have.

Good post. You and @Timberwolf have changed my mind.

 

[chrisd2k]

Context means everything.

Nonsense

 

[spurs mental]

I mean if you really believe that then good for you, but that reeks of trying to construct your own narrative more than anything.

Practically nothing Conte ever says in press conferences comes across like he's trying to lift the players.

Im not creating a narrative. I said maybe that's what he was doing. Not saying anything more than that. None of us actually know what he meant by it really, it could have been lost in translation, it could be that he was trying to lift the players, it could be what others think and he thinks he's above us, but nothing he's done has shown me that he thinks that either.

Just my opinion.

He could have done said he was off if we finish top 4. Imagine the melt down if a manager said something similar....oh.

 

[spurs-r-us]

Detestable man. Puts himself above the club and everyone involved. Not a shred of humility. No wonder the players can't stand him.

The beauty of this thread and this fanbase is I got 4 WTFs after we beat Forest, even though this was posted a fair while before and had the opposite reaction

Anyway, Conte has always done his best work with no midweek games. I think we're a good chance for 4th now. He also has a huge ego, which isn't a criticism, meaning he will not want to leave the club without the accolade of finishing in the CL spots again. He literally said that top 4 is like a trophy for Tottenham, a pretty braindead comment, but one that would allow him to walk away at the end of the year with his head held high and positive prospects for the Juventus/PSG/Madrid jobs that will all be available sooner rather than later.

Last week was a disaster, and beating the leakiest defence in the league at home shouldn't make anyone forget it, but what's done is done. If he stays and we make top 4, before an amicable break-up in the summer, then that's the best result for all parties.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

You're biased, yeah?

so you're saying that Conte slammed the club and it's 'history' not taking any blame on his system to protect the welfare of the players?

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Yeah but then he specifically used the example of last season's league positions to justify our defeat - which is what (I think) has annoyed people. That's what annoyed me anyway.

Even then, it’s still relevant. Liverpool have been shit this season in comparison to the previous 3, and yet they managed to smash United 7-0 on the day and United have been tout as the second coming. Milan are still the defending Serie A champions even if they’ve had a mediocre season in comparison.

I can completely understand being angry at the performance during the match but the post match comments are really not that big of a deal IMO

 

[spurs mental]

so you're saying that Conte slammed the club and it's 'history' not taking any blame on his system to protect the welfare of the players?

No, I am hypothesising, the same way you are about exactly the same comment. You can read into it what you wish, the same way anyone else can.

All I was doing was putting another scenario out. I said maybe that's what he was doing. Not sure he's "slammed" the club but that's how you choose to read it based on your opinion of Conte. And we all know what that is, hence my biased comment.

 

[TPdYID]

Just because the Rennes manager won’t play Rodon, does not make it Levy’s (or Conte’s) fault.

Slow down champ. Nobody said that. You've got a bit giddy and jumped the gun.

The point was, Rodon was signed as a 'club' signing who hasn't had a sniff under any manager, rendering the transfer a waste of time/money and subsequently bloating the squad further.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Hes done his work well. Its not about superiority, in fact its the exact opposite with both parties showing each other respect which fails when one starts talking down, the other is bound to defend itself.

And I genuinely don’t think he was talking down on us. This is all apart of this inferiority complex we all suffer from as spurs fans.

 

[Metalhead]

AC drawing to Salernitana, the great historic Milan. We really had no chance against such historic club. we are nothing in comparison to them

That's fair and obviously we could easily have progressed in the FA cup too. I feel like now that we really should be able to get top 4 and then at least when Conte goes, it's a decent enough platform for whoever comes in next.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Fucking hell

All of this would largely be avoided if some of you didn't over analyse everything, even the minutiae, then come to conclusions that are based on nothing but fantasy and thoughts conjured up by being on your vinegar strokes.

There's enough real stuff to complain about without resorting to a playbook straight out of Hans Christian Andersen just to guild the lily

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

AC drawing to Salernitana, the great historic Milan. We really had no chance against such historic club. we are nothing in comparison to them

So the Liverpool losing to Bournemouth on the weekend means we’re going to smash them when we play them again right?

Just following your logic here

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Nonsense

Ah I see so you disagree with both historical fact and conversational context.

Typical Delusional Spurs fan reporting for duty.

 

[RELISYS]

If I were an Arsenal fan I would love Antonio Conte to stay as Spurs manager, there are probably a few on here who are defending him right now. He has 2 wins in 11 games against Arsenal and took some good beating from them as well.

 

[chrisd2k]

Ah I see so you disagree with both historical fact and conversational context.

Typical Delusional Spurs fan reporting for duty.

No I meant the context he was talking about was nonsense and no bearing to today. But have a personal dig, I wont lose sleep over it