Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[VDV11 Fan]

I don't think people realize how convenient it is to live in a hotel for a guy like Conte.

He works long hours, has no time for upkeep. He lives alone - so no need for a house. I don't know what hotel is is living in, but I imagine it has a good restaurant.

I kind of doubt he is staying in an economy hotel with just a bed, a TV, and a mini-fridge.


Opening up on his living arrangements, Conte said: "For sure [there are advantages], it was a really good choice in this aspect! Then, honestly, I live in the hotel and now the people and the owner, I'm part of their family. They consider me a person that lives there and, for this reason, I want also to use this moment to say thanks because they treat me very well."


Plus, even if he spent £400/night - that runs to £146,000/year. He nets about that each week. Its the equivalent of someone making £100k/year spending about £125 per month on housing.

I feel like the author of this post is writing a very enticing review of the hotel Conte is staying in. By any chance is he living in the Bluto Blutarsky Inn?

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

AC drawing to Salernitana, the great historic Milan. We really had no chance against such historic club. we are nothing in comparison to them

 

[olliec]

AC drawing to Salernitana, the great historic Milan. We really had no chance against such historic club. we are nothing in comparison to them

Comments like this just piss me off. why not read what he actually said. “In terms of history”. He never said we are nothing compared to them.

“In terms of history, these two clubs are on totally different levels. Milan won the Serie A title last season, whereas we scraped through by a miracle going from ninth place to fourth.

this is all true facts as well.

 

[Timberwolf]

As I remember, Ramos wanted to get us back into europe and the league cup was the best route given we were in the relegation zone when he took over. That's why it was prioritised .
The players were so full of themselves after the cup win, we were sent into a death spiral that wasn't resolved until Redknapp was appointed.

I dont think Ramos was genuinely interested in anything other than the uefa cup, and AVB was the same with the diminished europa cup.

Our form was indifferent after the league cup win (think it was like 3W 5D 3L) but I think the death spiral was more down the absolutely disastrous summer we had. Losing both Keane and Berba in one window - our 2 top scorers - threaded the noose for Ramos, especially when he also had to try and integrate Bentley, Modric, GDS, Corluka, Super Pav and Gomes all into the first team at once.

Looking back, he may never have succeeded at Spurs but we really set him up to fail that summer.

 

[Timberwolf]

Disagree strongly.

We are a club in a bit of a bind right now - because we don't know if our DOF will be here next month. So, we are not really in a great position to evaluate managers for next season. And, if we don't know exactly who we want now - there is no reason to hire a caretaker, when Conte is better positioned to deliver results this season.

It would save everyone a lot of grief if Spurs/Conte jointly announce that Conte would see out his contract, and then leave in the summer. Players and staff can then focus on the remaining games without all the distractions. Its also possible that Conte leaving is not a sure thing - hence not announcing anything.

As supporters - we should be focused on supporting the team/manager we have now, and spend less time dreaming of managers we don't have.

I agree with the sentiment but I don't think an official announcement confirming his departure in the summer helps.

In almost every instance where a club has actually come out and stated a manager is leaving at the end of the season their results go off a cliff. I think the small element of doubt about Conte's future will actually probably help us on the pitch as the players can't be 100% sure he's leaving, even if they strongly suspect it.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Comments like this just piss me off. why not read what he actually said. “In terms of history”. He never said we are nothing compared to them.

“In terms of history, these two clubs are on totally different levels. Milan won the Serie A title last season, whereas we scraped through by a miracle going from ninth place to fourth.

this is all true facts as well.

milan could have won the world cup last year, this year they are average and just drew to a horrible side in a league they have been bang average in, this is all true facts.

I'm glad comments like mine piss you off and not the fact our manager basically covers up his incompetence with excuses which people like you lap up

 

[RuskyM]

Comments like this just piss me off. why not read what he actually said. “In terms of history”. He never said we are nothing compared to them.

“In terms of history, these two clubs are on totally different levels. Milan won the Serie A title last season, whereas we scraped through by a miracle going from ninth place to fourth.

this is all true facts as well.

I found this wilfulness to talk us down to appease a manager who thinks he’s above it depressing when it was Mourinho and it’s even worse under Conte. Have some pride in our team: we’ve been in more Champions League finals than Antonio Conte has. We’ve been here before he was and we’ll be here after he goes.

Milan’s history is meaningless: they didn’t beat us because of Maldini and Baresi or because they won Serie A last year; they beat us because we couldn’t lay a glove on them. The “miracle” talk is self-mythologising nonsense from a man trying to maintain his reputation: nothing more.

 

[slartibartfast]

Sutton is saying this because he's a Chelsea man and doesnt want us getting top 4. End of.
He's also a total penis who spouts shit and snide comments everytime he opens his mouth. Awful man. Ever watch BT sport on a saturday at 3? God, how he keeps his job I dont know. Is funny when Savage winds him up though.

 

[Hawkey77]

FWIW I think whatever happens to Conte I am still going to be absolutely head over heels in love with this club. Sure that means I get angry/frustrated at times but it only comes from a place of love, fostered over (for me) 34 years. Nobody can take that away, no manager, no chairman, and no angry sod on here. So why not just celebrate the fact that come August, almost no matter what happens between now and then we’ll all (most) be excited about what the season ahead can bring, full of hope and optimism. After all what’s the point if you can’t dream? So don’t stress the little things here and there, don’t let Conte’s comments affect your support of your club (there could be an untold number of reasons he’s saying what he is), and just try to enjoy the ride as much as you can.

 

[Timberwolf]

I found this wilfulness to talk us down to appease a manager who thinks he’s above it depressing when it was Mourinho and it’s even worse under Conte. Have some pride in our team: we’ve been in more Champions League finals than Antonio Conte has. We’ve been here before he was and we’ll be here after he goes.

Milan’s history is meaningless: they didn’t beat us because of Maldini and Baresi or because they won Serie A last year; they beat us because we couldn’t lay a glove on them. The “miracle” talk is self-mythologising nonsense from a man trying to maintain his reputation: nothing more.

Yeah the Milan stuff was nonsense. If they were playing as well as they did last season and were smashing it in Serie A, sure, he might have a point, but they've spent most of this season floating around 4th/5th - the same as us.

It's a lame excuse.

 

[wadewill]

His comments were still very misguided

We would probably win Serie A in our current state. Plus where are the respective teams THIS season…. It was a shocking, weak, scared performance. He should have taken responsibility for that, not had a dig at the club

 

[Japhet]

Yeah the Milan stuff was nonsense. If they were playing as well as they did last season and were smashing it in Serie A, sure, he might have a point, but they've spent most of this season floating around 4th/5th - the same as us.

It's a lame excuse.

Also known as positive reframing. Trouble is, it only really works with people who have sketchy knowledge of the subject, but that doesn't include supporters who live and breathe the club. Don't really know who that comment was meant to be aimed at tbh.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I found this wilfulness to talk us down to appease a manager who thinks he’s above it depressing when it was Mourinho and it’s even worse under Conte. Have some pride in our team: we’ve been in more Champions League finals than Antonio Conte has. We’ve been here before he was and we’ll be here after he goes.

Milan’s history is meaningless: they didn’t beat us because of Maldini and Baresi or because they won Serie A last year; they beat us because we couldn’t lay a glove on them. The “miracle” talk is self-mythologising nonsense from a man trying to maintain his reputation: nothing more.

On the flip side maybe you should humble yourself because we’ve been in one CL final, which we didn’t even show up for yet we have nothing to show for it. Atleast Conte has won some of the finals he’s managed to make it too.

You really need to learn the place as spurs fans in the grand scheme of things. We’ve won fuck all since 2008. There’s a reason why most of the other football fans think spurs fans are delusional.

You have this sense of superiority as a club over Conte, and it was the same with Mourinho yet one has won more trophies as a manager and the other half the trophies we have as a club IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY.

It’s not talking down on the club when he’s stating facts. Just because a few of you had your feelings hurt by it doesn’t make it any less true.

Humility goes a long way.

 

[chrisd2k]

I've got a strong feeling we are going to finish 4th again under Conte, he'll leave, and his replacement will finish in the Europa places.

Normally after a strange season like this one normality is resumed in the following season so I would expect it to be harder, or at least require a larger points total, to qualify for the CL

 

[chrisd2k]

Comments like this just piss me off. why not read what he actually said. “In terms of history”. He never said we are nothing compared to them.

“In terms of history, these two clubs are on totally different levels. Milan won the Serie A title last season, whereas we scraped through by a miracle going from ninth place to fourth.

this is all true facts as well.

Whats that got to do with current Milan vs current Spurs? Nothing is the answer.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Whats that got to do with current Milan vs current Spurs? Nothing is the answer.

Context means everything.

 

[Timberwolf]

On the flip side maybe you should humble yourself because we’ve been in one CL final, which we didn’t even show up for yet we have nothing to show for it. Atleast Conte has won some of the finals he’s managed to make it too.

You really need to learn the place as spurs fans in the grand scheme of things. We’ve won fuck all since 2008. There’s a reason why most of the other football fans think spurs fans are delusional.

You have this sense of superiority as a club over Conte, and it was the same with Mourinho yet one has won more trophies as a manager and the other half the trophies we have as a club IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY.

It’s not talking down on the club when he’s stating facts. Just because a few of you had your feelings hurt by it doesn’t make it any less true.

Humility goes a long way.

We're not saying Spurs are bigger than Milan or that Milan don't have a richer history. Every Spurs fan with an ounce of sense knows that Milan are a bigger club than us.

The point is that football is fluid and, regardless of what titles a team has won, they are only as good as their recent run of results.

Milan were great last season but this season they have been pretty damn average. For Conte to imply they're miles ahead of us was disingenuous. It has nothing to do with entitlement - that's a completely different thing - what's annoying is the way Conte twisted the facts to suit his agenda.

It would be the same as implying beating Arsenal or Napoli was no big deal because of where they finished last season when it's clear to everyone those 2 teams have made massive leaps forward.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

We're not saying Spurs are bigger than Milan or that Milan don't have a richer history. Every Spurs fan with an ounce of sense knows that Milan are a bigger club than us.

The point is that football is fluid and, regardless of what titles a team has won, they are only as good as their recent run of results.

Milan were great last season but this season they have been pretty damn average. For Conte to imply they're miles ahead of us was disingenuous. It has nothing to do with entitlement - that's a completely different thing - what's annoying is the way Conte twisted the facts to suit his agenda.

Yeah that would be true if that’s what he actually said, which he didn’t. He said Historically they are a bigger club than ours. That’s why I said, context means everything

 

[Timberwolf]

Yeah that would be true if that’s what he actually said, which he didn’t. He said Historically they are a bigger club than ours. That’s why I said, context means everything

Yeah but then he specifically used the example of last season's league positions to justify our defeat - which is what (I think) has annoyed people. That's what annoyed me anyway.

 

[spurs mental]

Or maybe, just maybe, he was trying to lift the players after a really hard week and didn't want them to feel too down going out to an historically more successful club than us?

But that wouldn't suit the narrative I suppose.