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yankspurs

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Let's be fair we have only bought a couple of cheapos Hojbjerg and Doherty and only one decent mid range signing Reguilon (when I say decent I mean money-wise). Real quality doesn't come cheap even in a Covid world. We haven't bought Bale nor Vinicius, they could be with us for just 8 months. So the total of all these we actually spent on just one player last summer - Ndombele (and Ndombele is quality). So it has been a decent window (especially because the last few years we are used to piss poor ones) but let's not get carried away like we are suddenly a Ch£l$ki or a Man Shitty or a Manure with the purse strings.

So a proven quality CB should be very much affordable by us, and an absolute must this window. Otherwise, all the good work this window will be undone. Do you think we can win something with an iconic but sadly geriatric now Alderweireld, a CM playing CB, and not even going to mention Sanchez. Ben Davies a CB :banghead:
Bale has an option for a 2nd season to play out his Madrid contract which Im sure we’ll take up then we’ll discuss signing him permanently on a free. Vinicius has an option to buy for €45m that if successful we’d probably take up.
 

Shadydan

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Let's be fair we have only bought a couple of cheapos Hojbjerg and Doherty and only one decent mid range signing Reguilon (when I say decent I mean money-wise). Real quality doesn't come cheap even in a Covid world. We haven't bought Bale nor Vinicius, they could be with us for just 8 months. So the total of all these we actually spent on just one player last summer - Ndombele (and Ndombele is quality). So it has been a decent window (especially because the last few years we are used to piss poor ones) but let's not get carried away like we are suddenly a Ch£l$ki or a Man Shitty or a Manure with the purse strings.

So a proven quality CB should be very much affordable by us, and an absolute must this window. Otherwise, all the good work this window will be undone. Do you think we can win something with an iconic but sadly geriatric now Alderweireld, a CM playing CB, and not even going to mention Sanchez. Ben Davies a CB :banghead:

Hmm, what's that noise...? Sounds like this goalposts are getting moved again in this thread ?
 

cliff jones

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Very happy with ENIC this window. Given the backdrop, they’ve been creative and apart from the striker delay they got it done on time.

Buying older players, doing loans, accepting buyback, are all welcome innovations from them.

hopefully Jose can gel it all together, well have decent luck with injuries and decisions
and challenge on a couple of fronts...

edit- shit, forgot the willingness to do the ins before the outs bit as well?

coys
 
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True. Setting out the stall to maximise the chances of obtaining silverware is however, and now they are genuinely doing just that. Over to you, Jose...

They have done it before though - we've seen two of the best squads we've ever had in the last decade for at least 1 season under Harry, and 1 season under MP. That's evidenced by the finals we've been able to get to I guess.

The problem has been that "mentality" that gets you over the line. I think the weakness we had, for all of their positives, was that neither manager was a trophy winner. That's changed with Jose, so I hope that having a squad again plus the manager who can nailed down that je ne sais quoi that they need in high pressure games will bring home that success.
 

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We've had a squad with superstars in it for a few years now, it just started to fray at the edges / get a bit moth eaten. This window was always about plugging the gaps, building that effective squad of 22 Jose talks about. Winter window, and summer window can then be for any further elite players that we come across knowing we only need to look at one or two in.

As I have said before, Levy was very clear that this was the plan. Compete for top 4, build stadium, build squad, compete for the league and European honours. This isn't a divergence from the MO, it's the culmination of a 10 or 20 year plan. Hopefully we have a strong season and next year we can talk seriously about winning the league, not just getting in the top 4.
 
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Proud to have always been a BSoDL. Absolutely incredible window, Daniel Levy masterclass.
Proud to have always prioritised support for the football team over support for its CEO. Absolutely incredible window for all the ways it's avoided the pattern of previous windows. Daniel Levy finally mastering the art of investing decisively and effectively in the team to leave a complete squad with no discernible holes. Class work from him, Jose and everyone involved in our transfer business this window. If this targeted way of operating in the transfer market becomes the blueprint for future windows, there'll be no need for a BSoDL faction, or an anti-Levy voice on this forum; just a united group of Spurs supporters all singing from the same page.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Proud to have always prioritised support for the football team over support for its CEO. Absolutely incredible window for all the ways it's avoided the pattern of previous windows. Daniel Levy finally mastering the art of investing decisively and effectively in the team to leave a complete squad with no discernible holes. Class work from him, Jose and everyone involved in our transfer business this window. If this targeted way of operating in the transfer market becomes the blueprint for future windows, there'll be no need for a BSoDL faction, or an anti-Levy voice on this forum; just a united group of Spurs supporters all singing from the same page.
I certainly agree with your final sentence, but I like to think that all pro Enic people have been pro Enic because, rightly or wrongly, they felt Enic was doing a good job, and as such they were supporting the club first and foremost. Whether they were right or wrong is another matter. I know that my stance on Enic has been purely for those reasons, even if I was wrong (and accept I may well have been), but originally after the debacle that was the 03/04 season I couldn’t have been more against them, and didn’t really soften up until the Redknapp years.

I remember quite vividly how angry I was, one night in my student flat, when we announced the signing of Danny Murphy despite being overloaded with central midfielders and only having one decent winger at the club in Lennon. Definitely not a bastard son back then ?
 

Albertbarich

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I think this is our best ever window under enic.

Plugged every gap, brought sensibly during these crazy times and backed the manager. I feel like they have shoved all the bad words I've said about them right back in my face.

And that makes me happy.
 

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Hmm, what's that noise...? Sounds like this goalposts are getting moved again in this thread ?

Not really, we needed a proven, quality CB ever since Vertonghen's legs went. 3 (4?) years to get a back up CF, now let's see how long for a CB...
 
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Not really, we needed a proven, quality CB ever since Vertonghen's legs went. 3 (4?) years to get a back up CF, now let's see how long for a CB...
Davinson Sanchez and Foyth were MP's requests and cost around £60m.

Are we deleting/ignoring that?


Also, Llorente and Janssen.
 

Marauder

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Davinson Sanchez and Foyth were MP's requests and cost around £60m.

Are we deleting/ignoring that?


Also, Llorente and Janssen.

Llorente and Janssen - haven't had them for a while have we. A season is a long time in football with only one (overused, exhausted and therfore getting injury prone) CF for all competitions.

As for Sanchez and Foyth sadly they haven't worked out. So we need a new proven, quality CB. 2nd season and counting.
 
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Llorente and Janssen - haven't had them for a while have we. A season is a long time in football with only one CF for all competitions.

As for Sanchez and Foyth sadly they haven't worked out. So we need a new proven, quality CB now. 2nd season and counting...

I don't doubt that many of MPs signings have been turds, for whatever reason, but we've still signed players. Seems like Poch was happy for Llorente to leave, but we should have kept him another year imo. Jose would have loved that
 

Marauder

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I don't doubt that many of MPs signings have been turds, for whatever reason, but we've still signed players. Seems like Poch was happy for Llorente to leave, but we should have kept him another year imo. Jose would have loved that

Yeah I would have been happy for Llorente to stay as well. Curious, why do you say Jose would have also loved that? Just to have a backup CF?
 
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Yeah I would have been happy for Llorente to stay as well. Curious, why do you say Jose would have also loved that? Just to have a backup CF?

Experienced, strong, traditional "I'm a striker and fuck all else" target man type player. Same as Zlatan
 
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We've had a squad with superstars in it for a few years now, it just started to fray at the edges / get a bit moth eaten. This window was always about plugging the gaps, building that effective squad of 22 Jose talks about. Winter window, and summer window can then be for any further elite players that we come across knowing we only need to look at one or two in.

As I have said before, Levy was very clear that this was the plan. Compete for top 4, build stadium, build squad, compete for the league and European honours. This isn't a divergence from the MO, it's the culmination of a 10 or 20 year plan. Hopefully we have a strong season and next year we can talk seriously about winning the league, not just getting in the top 4.
This has been an awesome window mate and it feels churlish to disagree with you, but I'd just like to contest a few points you make:
Was being the only club in the top 5 European Leagues to fail to buy a player in 2018 part of that clear "plan"? Or until yesterday, being the only club without a second recognised striker "the culmination of a 10 or 20 year plan"? Let's not pretent that ENIC have consistently strategised a clear, robust and effective policy for buying footballers over the years. There's been a litany of missed opportunities, of failure to secure primary targets, of failed cheap opportunist punts, of top players sold and never truly adequately replaced. As you yourself acknowledge, previous transfer window failures have necessitated the primacy of "plugging the gaps" in the squad. Surely, if as you suggest, that progressively improving the team season-in season out, has always been ENIC's "MO", then we wouldn't have needed a window like the current one in the first place!
I completely agree with your last statement mate. Great balanced squad, top manager. There's huge potential for us to win something significant with this group of players and coaching team. But we've been on the cusp of greatness before, only for our owners to fail to make that final push. Let's hope they don't allow that same complacency or negligence to creep in again. This is why the brilliant work Levy has done in this window has to be the standard default way he operates in the future. As you say, everything is in place now, so there's no reason for him not to. And correspondingly, there's less and less reason to defend him if he doesn't.
 
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