ENIC...

[rabbikeane]

Why are you comparing us with Liverpool? Do Everton, that's comparable work an ownership had to go through to create a top club. Everton's new owners are doing what you want ours to do, throwing money at names.
What people seem to want to do is have both ENIC and another owner, the benefits of both.

 

[Shadydan]

ENIC have indeed hired a very successful coach, but that won't amount to a hill of beans if he's not backed by ENIC. We spent approximately £1.2 billion to build our stadium, FSG are redeveloping Anfield by the time that redevelopment is complete they are going to have a bigger ground then ours for far less then what it's cost to build our stadium.

Oh I see so you're basing your arguments on things that actually haven't happened yet.

I see the ratings ninja is back

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Expect ENIC will now get blamed for not putting in a bid for Messi , seems he is staying at Barca.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

ENIC have owned Spurs for the best part of 2 decades and the sum total of trophies is 1 Carling cup which quite frankly is an appalling record
for a club of Spurs size. I hear people say what a great businessman Daniel Levy is, well he may well be good at running the business side of the club but pretty much most of his footballing decisions with regards to the team and the squad have been almost negligent, ever since ENIC took over they have always pled poverty, saying that we couldn't compete for the top players because our rivals generated bigger incomes (That didn't Leicester City from winning the prem in 2015/16) and when we should have won the league we allowed Chelsea to beat to the title the following year when an investment of one or two really class players could have taken us over the line that season,then we go two transfer windows without buying anyone which inevitably has lead to our decline from the top 4 to Europa league. Ultimately the buck has to stop with someone and after getting rid of the best manager Spurs have ever had in my lifetime (and I've been a fan since 1973) and that buck stops squarely at the feet of Daniel Levy.

We’ve had two better managers in your lifetime, Bill Nicholson was still manager when you were born and you seem to forget Keith Burkinshaw also. ?

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Personally i'd say just Klinsmann out of that list. Maybe VDV, maybe. You nailed those two but after that it's positively skinny, i've no idea how you came up with so many names. All of the others were decent signings but none of them had that wow factor that you'd expect from a 'marquee' signing. Ndombele? Never heard of him until we were linked. I think you're stretching the use of the word myself, I mean, David Bentley? haha But there you go, them your onions and those are mine.

I agree about Ndombele until we were linked, but during the year or so between then and him signing he was a standout player in the CL. Shame I can't say the same about the year after he signed :'(

David Bentley definitely seemed to see himself as a marquee signing...then had a reality check. ?

 

[makeveli]

Don’t like that we don’t spend money and levy is in charge of buying players but Enid have done well for us considering the scholar sugar days , foundations are set we just need to push on they need to sell up or start splashing the cash , this balancing the books and ffp is rubbish city and chaos been getting away with it for years..

 

[sausage]

Don’t like that we don’t spend money and levy is in charge of buying players but Enid have done well for us considering the scholar sugar days , foundations are set we just need to push on they need to sell up or start splashing the cash , this balancing the books and ffp is rubbish city and chaos been getting away with it for years..

Problem with City and Chelsea is that they are plausibly being used as a sort of 'money laundering' (or indeed, asset shifting) enterprise. Moving money from dubious sources into seemingly legitimate off-shore businesses is pretty common, and it doesn't necessarily mean good things for the recipients. Fattening the turkey, potentially.

We won't see the likes of Spurs, Liverpool or Man Utd doing it on the basis that the owners have no need to do so. It's not like Sheik Mansour or Abrahmovic are being altruistic in their investments of the clubs, but those are the only types that will do that kind of thing.

I do believe that we'll end up seeing a change in tide - it's just typical that the pandemic stuff has kind of stamped on us (and all the other clubs) when we were just getting to competing with them.

 

[cliff jones]

Kane basically saying that Jose will get more out of the squad but that if the quality of the squad isn’t high we won’t be challenging.

He’s right, we won’t be.

 

[makeveli]

Only way to win is to spend and bend the rules , it’s a billionaires play ground now

 

[Metalhead]

Only way to win is to spend and bend the rules , it’s a billionaires play ground now

We are likely to see a relative increase in spending once income from the stadium starts coming in but we won't see any City or Chelsea levels of spending. Not to say that ENIC wouldn't sell but there aren't many buyers out there who could afford to buy the club and even then there is no guarantee that we would see the kind of spending that City of Chelsea are happy to engage in.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Re the latest on Levy from the AON documentary.

Also I thought Levy came across pretty well in the conversation between him Eriksen and Levy, trying to balance the fact that we had injuries and wanted a fair fee for him 20m euro's which with 6 months left on his contract is a fairly reasonable ask for a near on world class player and said reluctantly we'll let you go if the fee is right for us but we've said all along that we don't want you to go. Tad worrying when he said "as we know all the deals happen in the last week of the window"... yes in your little world they do Daniel but deals can be done at other times, thankfully this summer has shown that a leopard can changes its spots a bit...

When we signed Bergwijn and Levy jokingly said "you mustn't let him down now its just so classic Levy in his delivery just comes across too harsh, the more the episodes go on the more he comes across exactly as i thought he would, he knows what he's doing to run the club, he's a bit cautious, he's a bit awkward but he doesn't seem to care and have the clubs best interests at heart, I'd rate him about a 7/10 at what he does, could sell players or make decisions more quickly and would be good if he wasn't quite so awkward as i can imagine that will rub some people up the wrong way but I don't think he's a complete idiot and generally fairly ok that he's running the club.

What did others think?

 

[carmeldevil]

Re the latest on Levy from the AON documentary.

Also I thought Levy came across pretty well in the conversation between him Eriksen and Levy, trying to balance the fact that we had injuries and wanted a fair fee for him 20m euro's which with 6 months left on his contract is a fairly reasonable ask for a near on world class player and said reluctantly we'll let you go if the fee is right for us but we've said all along that we don't want you to go. Tad worrying when he said "as we know all the deals happen in the last week of the window"... yes in your little world they do Daniel but deals can be done at other times, thankfully this summer has shown that a leopard can changes its spots a bit...

When we signed Bergwijn and Levy jokingly said "you mustn't let him down now its just so classic Levy in his delivery just comes across too harsh, the more the episodes go on the more he comes across exactly as i thought he would, he knows what he's doing to run the club, he's a bit cautious, he's a bit awkward but he doesn't seem to care and have the clubs best interests at heart, I'd rate him about a 7/10 at what he does, could sell players or make decisions more quickly and would be good if he wasn't quite so awkward as i can imagine that will rub some people up the wrong way but I don't think he's a complete idiot and generally fairly ok that he's running the club.

What did others think?

for a person to run a large organization with various moving parts (stadium, team, academy, training ground, marketing, etc) his people to people skills needs work. so maybe that’s where Trevor Birch comes in. Common theme about Birch is his people skills.

also needs to play the transfer window better - use the time better to help the squad than using it as some sort of adrenaline rush.
Otherwise no complaints here. I mean he made the club where it is now financially and infrastructure wise so that’s a plus. Need to take it to the next level or step aside.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

for a person to run a large organisation with various moving parts (stadium, team, academy, training ground, marketing, etc) his people to people skills needs work. so maybe that’s where Trevor Birch comes in. Common theme about Birch is his people skills.

also needs to play the transfer window better - use the time better to help the squad than using it as some sort of adrenaline rush.
Otherwise no complaints here. I mean he made the club where it is now financially and infrastructure wise so that’s a plus. Need to take it to the next level or step aside.

Yea agree mate, I mean I've never been a CEO so I really have no clue but most of the one's I've worked for or know about seem to be very charismatic and have pretty good people skills as well as of course good business skills. But perhaps CEO of a football club is slightly different and I suppose how important would people skills rank compared to say his knowledge of finances and vision for developing the club with the elements you've mentioned.

If you rated him in different areas it might be something like:
Club Financial management : 8/10
Vision for club 8/10
Project delivery 7/10 (some will say stadium was late and over budget etc but thats par for the course for a project like that and at the end of the day he's delivered one hell of a stadium and training ground and partnership with the NFL etc etc etc so all in all pretty good job considering no other club has a stadium even close to the level of ours)
Football side of the club decisions (Managers, Transfers, Player contracts etc) 5-6/10 *I know he doesn't directly deal with all of this but he ultimately gives sign-off and he is part of the transfer committee) I think as you say he should and could play the transfer window a bit better
People skills 5/10 not awful but certainly not great, he's pretty awkward in my opinion at times but he has moments where he does speak sense and come across fairly ok

I don't know much about Birch, does he have good people skills, where did you read that?
If so this could be a very good move so Levy can step away from that side of things a little bit.

So what I'm saying is people love to focus on negatives such as holding onto a player too long or 'not opening the purse strings' etc but at the end of the day he has to take credit for really taking our club to a completely new level from when ENIC took over. Next step now is to improve our player recruitment and to start to win trophies and it seems Levy is aligned on both of those goals so all in all about a solid B+ from me. Room for improvement but certainly passable.

 

[carmeldevil]

Yea agree mate, I mean I've never been a CEO so I really have no clue but most of the one's I've worked for or know about seem to be very charismatic and have pretty good people skills as well as of course good business skills. But perhaps CEO of a football club is slightly different and I suppose how important would people skills rank compared to say his knowledge of finances and vision for developing the club with the elements you've mentioned.

If you rated him in different areas it might be something like:
Club Financial management : 8/10
Vision for club 8/10
Project delivery 7/10 (some will say stadium was late and over budget etc but thats par for the course for a project like that and at the end of the day he's delivered one hell of a stadium and training ground and partnership with the NFL etc etc etc so all in all pretty good job considering no other club has a stadium even close to the level of ours)
Football side of the club decisions (Managers, Transfers, Player contracts etc) 5-6/10 *I know he doesn't directly deal with all of this but he ultimately gives sign-off and he is part of the transfer committee) I think as you say he should and could play the transfer window a bit better
People skills 5/10 not awful but certainly not great, he's pretty awkward in my opinion at times but he has moments where he does speak sense and come across fairly ok

I don't know much about Birch, does he have good people skills, where did you read that?
If so this could be a very good move so Levy can step away from that side of things a little bit.

So what I'm saying is people love to focus on negatives such as holding onto a player too long or 'not opening the purse strings' etc but at the end of the day he has to take credit for really taking our club to a completely new level from when ENIC took over. Next step now is to improve our player recruitment and to start to win trophies and it seems Levy is aligned on both of those goals so all in all about a solid B+ from me. Room for improvement but certainly passable.

Birch from the athletic article:

Trevor Birch, however, has had a way of connecting with supporters and employees at the clubs where he’s worked, and his departure from Swansea City on Tuesday night led to genuine sadness among colleagues at the Liberty Stadium. His open and honest communication with the supporters meant he was held in similarly high esteem by the fanbase.

So hopefully this is where he helps Levy accomplish the player side goals (transfer, contracts, etc).

agree with all you said and ratings. One man cant do it all. So it’s good to see Levy understands that now.

 

[Spurzinho]

Daniel Levy would plead poverty even if we signed a £6bn sponsorship deal with the Sultan of Brunei.

 

[cookiemonster]

To dare is to do

That little tadpole is using our motto to sell a skywalk experience instead of glory on the pitch

That is all you need to know about tadpole & his uncle

 

[absolute bobbins]

To dare is to do

That little tadpole is using our motto to sell a skywalk experience instead of glory on the pitch

That is all you need to know about tadpole & his uncle

Yeah, hiring someone who came up with the idea that we should link what will be an exhilarating experience that non fans will do to the club and then having the gall to sign it off, what a monster.

 

[yankspurs]

Daniel Levy in being negligent again shocker

 

[Lighty64]

I'm saying ENIC are more interested in running a profitable business than having successful and winning football club. FSG have proved you can do both. Unlike you I don't want to accept mediocrity.

hold on a minute if that is the case why get in a manager that will cost you 10m a season more than someone that could do the job, especially having to pay off the old manager.

FSG have added to their stadium, but not spent the amount we have and incurred a massive debt. we have only been able to really up players wages since leaving the old WHL, do you think Kane would still be even here if we were still playing in a 36k stadium.

we might not be winning trophies with them which isn't helped with the money Chelsea and City have spent, and how big Man U and Liverpool are as clubs. all this crap about being the 8th richest club is only because we built the stadium.

we got lucky with Poch we had something called a team which had a strong spine, unfortunately, we just couldn't get over the line in the matches that mattered, and none of those semi final losses, or final losses where down to Levy

 

[Shadydan]

cookiemonster cookiemonstering.