ENIC...

[BringBack_leGin]

From what I am reading Levy is trying to low ball his bid for the Korean centre half it seems this man will never but never give the manager what's required to build a team . It may be he gets his man but on the other hand he could lose the player to someone who will bid what they want and from what I understand its not an astronomical fee . Does anybody else think this penny-pinching is getting beyond a joke if you was bidding for say a player in the upper echelons perhaps the low balling could be understandable but the price of this player is in the range of a championship club and one of the elite clubs should be able to make a deal sooner rather than later .

This guy is coming in, if he’s coming in, to be our 4th/5th choice centre back at first, and we have at best a highly limited budget which needs to cover at least one, probably two and maybe three first team ready signings.

 

[AberdeenYid]

After the excitement of the eighties, to the dross of the nineties and early 00s, I have felt huge excitement over the last few years as to how we are progressing.

Never did I think we’d have one of the best stadiums on the planet and a squad of international players, being managed by one of the greatest managers in history.

ENIC have made mistakes, as every club owner has, but the upward trajectory of this club since they took over has been amazing.

 

[Metalhead]

This guy is coming in, if he’s coming in, to be our 4th/5th choice centre back at first, and we have at best a highly limited budget which needs to cover at least one, probably two and maybe three first team ready signings.

Your response should have been:

“Do we really know for sure that DL is lowballing Kim Min Jae’s club?” So much of what one reads In the media has to be taken with a massive pinch of salt.

 

[rossdapep]

After the excitement of the eighties, to the dross of the nineties and early 00s, I have felt huge excitement over the last few years as to how we are progressing.

Never did I think we’d have one of the best stadiums on the planet and a squad of international players, being managed by one of the greatest managers in history.

ENIC have made mistakes, as every club owner has, but the upward trajectory of this club since they took over has been amazing.

I think amazing is a bit strong.

Stadium, training centre, beneficial revenues, etc - certainly incredible work.

But...
It took ENIC five years to get us competing for top 4.
Another 5 years to actually get in the top 4.
Another 5 years to get us regularly in the CL.
But still two decades with only one trophy to show for it.

We haven't made the final of the Europa Cup or FA Cup despite having plenty of good opportunities.

You can shoulder some of that blame into to the coaches, sure. But when those above you are not putting pressure on trophies, you can find excuses to not go all in.

 

[carmeldevil]

After the excitement of the eighties, to the dross of the nineties and early 00s, I have felt huge excitement over the last few years as to how we are progressing.

Never did I think we’d have one of the best stadiums on the planet and a squad of international players, being managed by one of the greatest managers in history.

ENIC have made mistakes, as every club owner has, but the upward trajectory of this club since they took over has been amazing.

Agreed. But to win the title or CL, is he the owner to push us over the line? I don't think so - not with his transfer market management. But then again who's gonna buy the club esp right now? So I'm content with ENIC knowing the alternative could be worse.

 

[Coyboy]

I think amazing is a bit strong.

Stadium, training centre, beneficial revenues, etc - certainly incredible work.

But...
It took ENIC five years to get us competing for top 4.
Another 5 years to actually get in the top 4.
Another 5 years to get us regularly in the CL.
But still two decades with only one trophy to show for it.

We haven't made the final of the Europa Cup or FA Cup despite having plenty of good opportunities.

You can shoulder some of that blame into to the coaches, sure. But when those above you are not putting pressure on trophies, you can find excuses to not go all in.

But other than the two financially doped teams, there haven’t been any other teams that have become top 4 regulars in that time that were not already. And all of them (as well as Chelsea) have had the odd few years out. Indeed Arsenal have happily been out for three years and counting now.

In or around 2000/01 we are ‘competing’ with the likes of Leicester, Everton, Blackburn, Villa, West Ham, Newcastle and Boro in the league. Leicester aside, those teams have won nothing and Everton aside have been relegated a number of times. No other team/club has progressed like we have (albeit not always linearly) in the PL without huge financial subsidy- and Chelsea had been a top 4 team for a while anyway pre RA.

I’m not sure Levy can be blamed for consistent semi final and three final losses.

 

[AberdeenYid]

Agreed. But to win the title or CL, is he the owner to push us over the line? I don't think so - not with his transfer market management. But then again who's gonna buy the club esp right now? So I'm content with ENIC knowing the alternative could be worse.

I firmly believe he is. I can’t think of a flawless club director out there and Levy certainly has his flaws. But I do think he’s been a major part of getting us to where we are and now has the right infrastructure and manager to take the next step.

 

[carmeldevil]

I firmly believe he is. I can’t think of a flawless club director out there and Levy certainly has his flaws. But I do think he’s been a major part of getting us to where we are and now has the right infrastructure and manager to take the next step.

Cool I just don't agree. But we'll see. I hope I am wrong.

 

[AberdeenYid]

Cool I just don't agree. But we'll see. I hope I am wrong.

I hope so too! This is the closest I’ve felt that we have every piece of the jigsaw in place. Still a couple of pieces missing, a bastard in the middle of the park and a consistent right back, but everything else is there for us to make a big push in the coming seasons.

I sincerely hope we can’t add failing to get the aforementioned bastard in as an ENIC error as everyone can see it’s what we lack.

 

[buckley]

With regard to the Korean signing someone said " he would be 4th or 5 th in line for centre back position " I paraphrase .
Well I can remember people saying Grealish was rubbish / Fernandez OK in Portugal and not good enough for the premiership .
There is a long list of players we were potentially in for that more than a few on here said " not good enough for spurs and not needed "
Most of whom have gone on to be stellar players for other premiership clubs and I think some of our fans need a reality check the reason lots of clubs are after the " best defender to ever come out of Asia " is because he has the quality to succeed in the premier League .
If we miss out on another player thru Levy penny-pinching I am going to crush a grape with anger .
Come on Danny boy pay the going price and stop the haggling .

 

[Spurs2020]

I don’t see why the two have to be linked.

On the one hand he’s saying that that it’s not all about who spends the highest transfer fee as there’s so much more to it than that, and on the other hand he’s saying that having invested heavily in the squad he’d have hoped for a better season.

You’re just looking for a stick to beat him with here.

can you kiss einc's ass anymore bud ?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

can you kiss einc's ass anymore bud ?

I didn’t realise that exercising logic and reason amounted to ass kissing. I guess I should be like all the cool kids and find whatever I can to be outraged about in any given moment...

 

[buckley]

It seems that the chase of Hoijberg may be over as Saints have accepted a £25 million bid from Everton and its stated that spurs value him at £15 million . Well going by the Bellingham bid Levy probably bid one pound fifty pence .
Sorry to keep on about our bidding for targets but this lowballing has got to stop and if we really are serious about a player we must bid the going rate . I have a feeling we could all be pulling our hair out in frustration at the end of this window but I would be happy to be proved 100% wrong and we get the players that Jose wants but I won't hold my breath .

 

[DiVaio]

Well going by the Bellingham bid Levy probably bid one pound fifty pence .

1 million for 15yrs old for club with financial problems was very good offer though. And you would probably moan then why Levy spends for some youngsters but is not paying for Dybala/Bruno/Lo Celso/Ndombele.

 

[buckley]

If you are all right with Levy ref Transfers then good for you and as for Dybala and Bruno they should be playing for us now if not for Levy Penny pinching only my opinion of course . I have heard all the reasons why it did not happen all backing up Levy and his reasons for not buying these players I just have an opinion that if Levy had gone that bit extra not only would we have Grealish / Bruno Fernandes / and then we would not be scrambling now for sixth place but I am as certain as I could be we would be in the top four and Poch would still be here and all these arguments about Jose would not be an issue.

 

[AberdeenYid]

If you are all right with Levy ref Transfers then good for you and as for Dybala and Bruno they should be playing for us now if not for Levy Penny pinching only my opinion of course . I have heard all the reasons why it did not happen all backing up Levy and his reasons for not buying these players I just have an opinion that if Levy had gone that bit extra not only would we have Grealish / Bruno Fernandes / and then we would not be scrambling now for sixth place but I am as certain as I could be we would be in the top four and Poch would still be here and all these arguments about Jose would not be an issue.

Dybala, Fernandes and Grealish? Where’s the £250m for them coming from?

And fair enough it’s your opinion that Levy lowballed, but you’ve as much evidence of that as I have that he didn’t. None whatsoever. Yet you still choose to have a go at him.

In my opinion, we should have signed Mbappe and Messi, but we didn’t. Doesn’t make Levy a cheapskate twat though. Just means I’ve little idea what I’m talking about and thankfully I’m not the guy in charge.

 

[carmeldevil]

If you are all right with Levy ref Transfers then good for you and as for Dybala and Bruno they should be playing for us now if not for Levy Penny pinching only my opinion of course . I have heard all the reasons why it did not happen all backing up Levy and his reasons for not buying these players I just have an opinion that if Levy had gone that bit extra not only would we have Grealish / Bruno Fernandes / and then we would not be scrambling now for sixth place but I am as certain as I could be we would be in the top four and Poch would still be here and all these arguments about Jose would not be an issue.

never thought Fernandes was coming here. It was all talk but I think he really wanted to go to United and that’s where he ended up at.

 

[stormfly]

ENIC have done a great job running this club. Unfortunately two clubs won the lottery (Chelsea and Man City) and screwed up our chances of constantly being in the big 4. If those two clubs didn’t get their sugar daddies, I’m sure we’d have a lot more silverware and maybe a title or two. They just changed the game and we are still trying to adapt.

 

[sausage]

I just have an opinion that if Levy had gone that bit extra not only would we have Grealish / Bruno Fernandes / and then we would not be scrambling now for sixth place but I am as certain as I could be we would be in the top four and Poch would still be here and all these arguments about Jose would not be an issue.

Using a realistic logical paradigm, there would be other things that would and would not have happened. We might have won something and Poch would be at United, having convinced their board with his achievements, and having been satisfied he took us as far as he could.
I mean, he pretty much came out with that on a few occasions (that he would considering leaving).

It's the easiest job in the world to look back and say "We should have bought all those players that turned out well". What about the ones we didn't sign who turned out crap? Should we have paid more for Lemar? Would you be happy if we had paid what United did for Martial?
So many variables and, I'm sorry, but you don't get to cherry pick a timeline and use it as a criticism unless you are the Cthaeh.

 

[AberdeenYid]

Using a realistic logical paradigm, there would be other things that would and would not have happened. We might have won something and Poch would be at United, having convinced their board with his achievements, and having been satisfied he took us as far as he could.
I mean, he pretty much came out with that on a few occasions (that he would considering leaving).

It's the easiest job in the world to look back and say "We should have bought all those players that turned out well". What about the ones we didn't sign who turned out crap? Should we have paid more for Lemar? Would you be happy if we had paid what United did for Martial?
So many variables and, I'm sorry, but you don't get to cherry pick a timeline and use it as a criticism unless you are the Cthaeh.

Plus we wouldn’t have signed any of those players as our midfield was already packed with Moutinho, Barkley, Schniederlin, Hulk and a gracefully aging Rivaldo. All providing bullets for big Damiao up front. The man hated by Leyton Orient’s very own Harry Kane.

I’m going to stop now before this grows more legs.