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Club Statement 19 Nov 19 - Pochettino leaves

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Bobbins

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It's good to see him happy!

To be fair he's got millions in the bank, to the point where money will never factor into his life again (can you imagine that?), his reputation could barely be any higher, he'll have his choice of jobs anywhere in the world, and he's having a lovely break from even having to think about work.

It's hard to imagine anyone being anything other than just incredibly happy given those circumstances!
 

allatsea

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To be fair he's got millions in the bank, to the point where money will never factor into his life again (can you imagine that?), his reputation could barely be any higher, he'll have his choice of jobs anywhere in the world, and he's having a lovely break from even having to think about work.

It's hard to imagine anyone being anything other than just incredibly happy given those circumstances!
I agree but it does raise the question as to why he was sacked.
 

$hoguN

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I agree but it does raise the question as to why he was sacked.
Because he had lost the dressing room, publically courted other clubs, said he wanted to leave if he won the CL, had presided over some of our worst form in the last decade and was generally acting like a bit of a woolley
 

philll

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Because he had lost the dressing room, publically courted other clubs, said he wanted to leave if he won the CL, had presided over some of our worst form in the last decade and was generally acting like a bit of a woolley
He also set our academy back a couple of years by letting some of our most exciting young talent rot.

Other than all of that though he was wonderful.
 

slartibartfast

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With how his tenure ended, I’ll have to say no thanks.
All managers that get sacked do so because its turned sour. It doesnt make them poison.
Its strange how it all slowly goes wrong and they lose their way, not all their own fault sometimes, as was the case with Poch imo, but thats what happens. Then they go somewhere else and do really well.
I mean how many times has JM been sacked!
 

Primativ

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How did this man let us get into a situation where we had NO recognised DM in the squad other than Dier and Wanyama? He has managed the squad for over five years, he should have seen this being a problem for us.

The reason it is easy to pin the blame on Poch for this, is because Poch played Winks as the DM in his system every week when fit and did for 18 months. So this suggests that Poch was happy with this area of the team, he championed Winks as our deepest midfielder.

I said for months this was a flawed choice as Winks isn't good enough.

Utterly negligent. It should have been identified over a year ago that signing a defensive midfielder was an urgent priority for us because Wanyama was broken, and Dier was clearly not good enough plus suffering injuries and loss of form.


That is why people need to give JM a break. If in two transfer windows time, we are sitting here without signing a DM, and Jose is playing Winks or Dier as our DM, then yes, he needs to be blamed too, but don't blame Jose for inheriting a mess Poch has created by his stubborn blinkered view on Winks being the answer to our DM problem.
 

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How did this man let us get into a situation where we had NO recognised DM in the squad other than Dier and Wanyama? He has managed the squad for over five years, he should have seen this being a problem for us.

The reason it is easy to pin the blame on Poch for this, is because Poch played Winks as the DM in his system every week when fit and did for 18 months. So this suggests that Poch was happy with this area of the team, he championed Winks as our deepest midfielder.

I said for months this was a flawed choice as Winks isn't good enough.

Utterly negligent. It should have been identified over a year ago that signing a defensive midfielder was an urgent priority for us because Wanyama was broken, and Dier was clearly not good enough plus suffering injuries and loss of form.


That is why people need to give JM a break. If in two transfer windows time, we are sitting here without signing a DM, and Jose is playing Winks or Dier as our DM, then yes, he needs to be blamed too, but don't blame Jose for inheriting a mess Poch has created by his stubborn blinkered view on Winks being the answer to our DM problem.

Poch repeatedly said that we needed a painful rebuild, literally over seasons he said we needed an overhaul meanwhile people such as yourself said that he should be doing better with the team he had at his disposal. Everytime somebody said that we needed massive changes it was labelled as an excuse but now that the team is still struggling under Jose it's now that Poch allowed the team to get this way. How many times did he need to say he wanted new signings, how many times did he need to say that he wasn't the one who was controlling transfers to make a point to the board.

Now you've decided to come up with this pure conjecture that he didn't want a DM because he kept Winks, which you've concocted because you detest Winks and he hasn't been playing for you to have a moan at so you've decided this new angle of he's to blame because Poch wanted him at DM without any shred of evidence pointing towards that.

Absolutely laughable. The only thing I'll say is that you're right that it's stupid to blame Jose for this because he needs some transfer windows to sort out that mess of a midfield.
 

Shadydan

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Poch repeatedly said that we needed a painful rebuild, literally over seasons he said we needed an overhaul meanwhile people such as yourself said that he should be doing better with the team he had at his disposal. Everytime somebody said that we needed massive changes it was labelled as an excuse but now that the team is still struggling under Jose it's now that Poch allowed the team to get this way. How many times did he need to say he wanted new signings, how many times did he need to say that he wasn't the one who was controlling transfers to make a point to the board.

Now you've decided to come up with this pure conjecture that he didn't want a DM because he kept Winks, which you've concocted because you detest Winks and he hasn't been playing for you to have a moan at so you've decided this new angle of he's to blame because Poch wanted him at DM without any shred of evidence pointing towards that.

Absolutely laughable. The only thing I'll say is that you're right that it's stupid to blame Jose for this because he needs some transfer windows to sort out that mess of a midfield.

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Primativ

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Poch repeatedly said that we needed a painful rebuild, literally over seasons he said we needed an overhaul meanwhile people such as yourself said that he should be doing better with the team he had at his disposal. Everytime somebody said that we needed massive changes it was labelled as an excuse but now that the team is still struggling under Jose it's now that Poch allowed the team to get this way. How many times did he need to say he wanted new signings, how many times did he need to say that he wasn't the one who was controlling transfers to make a point to the board.

Now you've decided to come up with this pure conjecture that he didn't want a DM because he kept Winks, which you've concocted because you detest Winks and he hasn't been playing for you to have a moan at so you've decided this new angle of he's to blame because Poch wanted him at DM without any shred of evidence pointing towards that.

Absolutely laughable. The only thing I'll say is that you're right that it's stupid to blame Jose for this because he needs some transfer windows to sort out that mess of a midfield.

Are you saying that he wanted to upgrade Winks for another player? Absolute bollocks.

The reason he said we wanted a rebuild is because he lost half the dressing room, they'd stopped playing for him.

Modern football doesn't work like that, you don't rebuild an entire side because the manager's methods are no longer working on them.

Yes we need signings and investment but it isn't an entire rebuild. Thanks to Poch going we have now got our best CB to sign on for another three years. Toby would 100% have left if Poch stayed.

We even heard rumours that Kane wanted out if Poch stayed. The reason we needed a rebuild was because of Poch staying.

Ultimately Poch had this squad for over five years and he decided he wanted Winks as his DM, it is clear as day, he picked him every week in that position and only signed players in other positions.

JM needs time to rectify Poch's mismanagement of the squad, including alienating key players and having blinkered views on players who are clearly not good enough.
 
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