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Brian Laudrup on Eriksen and Poch's "special" way of playing

thinktank

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I think it was a brave but ultimately foolhardy move. Thinking you can cure Ade of his attitude at this stage is like Rodgers thinking he's the man to 'fix' Balotelli. Naive.

There's a lot to like about Poch (and I know you're very keen on him Thinktank), but that was a spectacular misfire.
It was but it was a shot to nothing as Ade is on uber wages and might be hard to shift so it was probably worth a punt tbf to try and get some value out of him.
 

Kendall

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"It's the bad players who are a luxury" D. Blancheflower.

Eriksen played to his strengths was head and shoulders above everyone else at Tottenham last season.

He was very good. Played on the left, but given a free role akin to Modric when Harry switched him out.

He had less responsibility there and really shone for it. The problem we now have is the manager is playing with a similar system to AVB, one where Eriksen went missing for several games.

Say what you like about Sherwood's weird central midfield picks, but he got the best out of our two most influential attacking players.
 

Borks

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He was very good last season but he had a free role with no real responsibility. IMO the reason Rose looked so poor last season was largely down to Eriksen's lack of support in helping defend.
 

talkshowhost86

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When I look at players like Eriksen or Lamela, I then look at teams like Chelsea and Man City and you realise that they don't really have these players who flit in and out of games and who are at times completely anonymous.

The creative players at those two clubs obviously don't hit the heights in every game, but even when they don't, the likes of Silva, Oscar, Fabregas etc still all put a shift in and actually play to the instructions they've been given, whereas Lamela and Eriksen seem to just wilt away and contribute nothing.

Obviously I'm not saying that we can get players like Silva or Fabregas, but we do need players who are at least able to compete physically as well as offering the flair side, and at the moment Eriksen and Lamela aren't offering that (particularly Eriksen).
 

Galactico14

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It's very simple, if you don't have the players for the 'system' ... Don't play the system until you do! The likes of jol and Harry where slated for their lack of tactical knowledge yet we seem to keep appointing managers since that can only play one 'system' despite it being clearly obvious it's not working. The the same excuse is they can't do it unless we spend 20-30mil on x player they worked with before! What did they do when that player got injured? Where's their knowledge of alternative players?
I didn't like Sherwood more because of his constant outbursts, but he publicly said we dont have the players, said he'd highlighted players we need and players that should go, the big difference in the mean time was he got results.
 

ClintEastwould

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Saw his game vs Serbia and he was played fairly well coming off the left. Mind, Denmark were moving the ball well and quickly throughout the entire team, something we don't do at all.

I think that should be his position for the time being as being in the middle puts too much pressure and incentive on him being the main playmaker and he just does not impose himself enough nor does he have any kind of presence on the field. He's too powder puff.
 

dagraham

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Isn't it the managers job to get the best out of his players?
Adjust and tweak existing systems to allow hugely talented players like Eriksen to flourish!

Nah. Why do "managing" and tactics when you can have a "philosophy" instead :rolleyes:
 

dagraham

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Saw his game vs Serbia and he was played fairly well coming off the left. Mind, Denmark were moving the ball well and quickly throughout the entire team, something we don't do at all.

I think that should be his position for the time being as being in the middle puts too much pressure and incentive on him being the main playmaker and he just does not impose himself enough nor does he have any kind of presence on the field. He's too powder puff.

I've been saying that for ages. Sherwood got the best out of him playing off the left. Unfortunately, that's Chadli's position and although Eriksen is the better player, Chadli is our top league scorer.

Maybe Chadli could be moved into the middle? It's not ideal either as in the middle is also Lamela's best position imo.
 

eViL

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Where is everyone getting this 'Poch plays a high line' bollocks from?

The team (or midfield that should be) presses high up the pitch but the defence sits nowhere near as high as the AVB system.
 

ClintEastwould

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I've been saying that for ages. Sherwood got the best out of him playing off the left. Unfortunately, that's Chadli's position and although Eriksen is the better player, Chadli is our top league scorer.

Maybe Chadli could be moved into the middle? It's not ideal either as in the middle is also Lamela's best position imo.

Chadli up top or on the right? I think he is the most malleable. I also agree Lamela is much better in the middle
 

talkshowhost86

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It's very simple, if you don't have the players for the 'system' ... Don't play the system until you do! The likes of jol and Harry where slated for their lack of tactical knowledge yet we seem to keep appointing managers since that can only play one 'system' despite it being clearly obvious it's not working. The the same excuse is they can't do it unless we spend 20-30mil on x player they worked with before! What did they do when that player got injured? Where's their knowledge of alternative players?
I didn't like Sherwood more because of his constant outbursts, but he publicly said we dont have the players, said he'd highlighted players we need and players that should go, the big difference in the mean time was he got results.

I think this is a fair point.

Whilst I hate the fact that our players seem to be too lazy to even try and implement what Poch is doing, Poch really needs to have an alternative if he doesn't have the right players available.
 

eddiebailey

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He was very good last season but he had a free role with no real responsibility. IMO the reason Rose looked so poor last season was largely down to Eriksen's lack of support in helping defend.
That and being rushed back after a long injury. The abuse he recieved was a disgrace.
 

prawnsandwich

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So many Spurs players receive abuse. And this is a fan site!
Some of the lunatics wish injuries on players. Why? Anybody who hates or posts hatred against a player is mentally ill IMO.
 

Borks

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So many Spurs players receive abuse. And this is a fan site!
Some of the lunatics wish injuries on players. Why? Anybody who hates or posts hatred against a player is mentally ill IMO.

When Ade plays shit it's because he's lazy, when everyone else plays shit it's because they're having a dip in form. Go figure.
 

beats1

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6 months and a summer/pre-season, unhindered by an international tournament and big egos.
Actually the biggest thing is 6 months without midweek fixtures

All this double sessions is a load of bollocks tbh, firstly footballers shouldn't be pushed too hard as the season goes on and the second issue is at the start of the season its hard to get double sessions in properly until around january when the players are fatigued from a hectic schedule

Sunday - Matchday
Monday - Light training/Rest day
Tuesday - Training followed by travelling
Wednesday - Training
Thursday - Matchday followed by possibly long distancetravelling
Friday - Light training day/rest day
Saturday - Training followed by travelling
Sunday - Matchday

Whereas at southampton
Saturday - Matchday
Sunday - Light training/rest day
Monday - Training
Tuesday - Training
Wednesday - Training
Thursday - Training
Friday - Light training with more ball work and tactics
Saturday - Matchday
 
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Bus-Conductor

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Actually the biggest thing is 6 months without midweek fixtures

All this double sessions is a load of bollocks tbh, firstly footballers shouldn't be pushed too hard as the season goes on and the second issue is at the start of the season its hard to get double sessions in properly until around january when the players are fatigued from a hectic schedule

Sunday - Matchday
Monday - Light training/Rest day
Tuesday - Training followed by travelling
Wednesday - Training
Thursday - Matchday followed by possibly long distancetravelling
Friday - Light training day/rest day
Saturday - Training followed by travelling
Sunday - Matchday

Whereas at southampton
Saturday - Matchday
Sunday - Light training/rest day
Monday - Training
Tuesday - Training
Wednesday - Training
Thursday - Training
Friday - Light training with more ball work and tactics
Saturday - Matchday

I agree, I was more referring to his tactical ethos really.
 

TheGreenLily

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He was very good. Played on the left, but given a free role akin to Modric when Harry switched him out.

He had less responsibility there and really shone for it. The problem we now have is the manager is playing with a similar system to AVB, one where Eriksen went missing for several games.

Say what you like about Sherwood's weird central midfield picks, but he got the best out of our two most influential attacking players.
WOW, he managed to get two right out of 11 players, I have tears of joy... Even then one of those players only scored 3 goals in his last 10 league games or score in 2 games out of 10.

Yeah brilliant, awesome, jumping with joy.
 

TheGreenLily

"I am Shodan"
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Actually the biggest thing is 6 months without midweek fixtures

All this double sessions is a load of bollocks tbh, firstly footballers shouldn't be pushed too hard as the season goes on and the second issue is at the start of the season its hard to get double sessions in properly until around january when the players are fatigued from a hectic schedule

Sunday - Matchday
Monday - Light training/Rest day
Tuesday - Training followed by travelling
Wednesday - Training
Thursday - Matchday followed by possibly long distancetravelling
Friday - Light training day/rest day
Saturday - Training followed by travelling
Sunday - Matchday

Whereas at southampton
Saturday - Matchday
Sunday - Light training/rest day
Monday - Training
Tuesday - Training
Wednesday - Training
Thursday - Training
Friday - Light training with more ball work and tactics
Saturday - Matchday

Brilliant, blame midweek games and being in Europe....

Well, I tell you what... Next time we get in the CL we will ask the owners to forfeit our spot as midweek games really don't agree with us and if they don't agree we can get a protest group put together.

That way, we don't have to worry about midweek games again.
 

Kendall

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WOW, he managed to get two right out of 11 players, I have tears of joy... Even then one of those players only scored 3 goals in his last 10 league games or score in 2 games out of 10.

Yeah brilliant, awesome, jumping with joy.
Haha. You twot
 
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