Jose Mourinho

[Marty]

This gets said a lot in here, like there’s no way Levy could sack him in the short term because he won the league cup. But at best it might have bought him a few more months, and we still might have got rid at the end of the season if things were bad enough.

Levy sacked Poch a few months after the Champions League final. He also sacked Ramos about seven months after winning the league cup. If things got bad enough (which clearly they were with Mourinho) Levy wouldn’t have hesitated to sack him regardless of him winning the league cup.

I will always maintain that not sacking Mourinho after Zagreb was a bigger mistake than sacking him before the final.

It was clear that day that it was over.

 

[Guntz]

Will be at Newcastle this time next year.

 

[RuskyM]

The halcyon days of being told "no, he's still great, it's everyone else that's the problem".

Hiring him (well, specifically upturning the club so we could hire him) set the club back years and we've only just recovered.

 

[RuskyM]

Are Roma on a tape delay or something?

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

And yet he still managed to win a trophy with them.

He might of with us if he'd been given one more game

 

[GutBucket]

He might of with us if he'd been given one more game

No chance, he lost the dressing room long before it. Couldn't beat Dinamo Zagreb with their coach literally in jail.

 

[Styopa]

I will always maintain that not sacking Mourinho after Zagreb was a bigger mistake than sacking him before the final.

It was clear that day that it was over.

Yeah I agree. The idea that this was a man who would guarantee us trophies, even if the football was terrible, was shattered that night. Or should have been.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

He wasn’t always a chequebook manager, contrary to what some may say. His CL victories with Porto and Inter were the highlights of his career and they were true underdog victories.

The Real Madrid gig changed him. He went in to that job the best manager in the world in his prime, and came out a bit of a shell. He didn’t particularly fail there (although he of course didn’t win the CL), but for whatever reason he wasn’t the same manager.

He disgraced himself last season with the reaction to the (perfectly fine) refereeing decisions in the Europa League final. Anything to distract from the real story - which was Mourinho losing the final.

 

[easley91]

A part of me still thinks leaving it until the week of the final, he should have just been given the final THEN be sacked. I know it all ended badly, but he did have us top and got to a final where I think had he been in charge we would have been set up better v City than we were with Mason.

 

[Styopa]

but he did have us top

He had us top for three matches, and relatively early in the season. We went top after 9 matches (same points as Liverpool) but by 15 matches we were already 5th, six points behind Liverpool and also trailing Leicester and Everton.

Incidentally Leicester were also top at one point that season, just before we overtook them after 9 matches.

 

[easley91]

He had us top for three matches, and relatively early in the season. We went top after 9 matches (same points as Liverpool) but by 15 matches we were already 5th, six points behind Liverpool and also trailing Leicester and Everton.

Incidentally Leicester were also top at one point that season, just before we overtook them after 9 matches.

I was just saying there were positive moments in my mind and I think he should have been given the final at the very least.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

A part of me still thinks leaving it until the week of the final, he should have just been given the final THEN be sacked. I know it all ended badly, but he did have us top and got to a final where I think had he been in charge we would have been set up better v City than we were with Mason.

Re being top of the league, that was never going to last because the way he set us up was totally unsustainable. I think he made us ultra defensive after that 3-0 lead was lost to West Ham. From that point on we were doomed.

I suspect the club sacked him before the final because they knew it would create issues if he’d won it. They couldn’t sack him straight after winning a final really…also potentially trying to avoid a massive ‘win a cup’ bonus which he almost certainly had written into his deal.

That’s no excuse for what they did though, because the club should never ever be taking decisions like that. The best chance of winning that cup was with him in the dugout and they should’ve kept him for that reason. It’s history now though, and we’re in a good place at last.

 

[YB123]

Didn't he want to literally play the reserves in the midweek against Southampton in prep for the final and Levy went mad because of his obsession with top 4 and we were about 5/6 points off it?

Not backing Mourinho and who knows if we'd have fared much better than with Mason in the final. BUT Levy showed his true ambition for the club that week. He hired a 29 year old with no managerial experience 5 days before a chance of silverware, over a man who has a knack of winning silverware against all odds.

 

[YB123]

Will be at Newcastle this time next year.

Think he will hold out for PSG. If not Saudi beckons

 

[Kingellesar]

Yeah ridiculous decision to sack him before a final.

Not surprised he is gone from Roma, I reckon Saudi league next, before going to Newcastle or another stint with Chelsea.

 

[werty]

Sky Sports studio

I thought he was very good when he was with them before. Would be a big improvement on what they have at the moment.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Saudi seems absolutely perfect for him.

A clapped-out league full of money-chasers in a country still living in the dark-ages.

 

[rossdapep]

Re being top of the league, that was never going to last because the way he set us up was totally unsustainable. I think he made us ultra defensive after that 3-0 lead was lost to West Ham. From that point on we were doomed.

I suspect the club sacked him before the final because they knew it would create issues if he’d won it. They couldn’t sack him straight after winning a final really…also potentially trying to avoid a massive ‘win a cup’ bonus which he almost certainly had written into his deal.

That’s no excuse for what they did though, because the club should never ever be taking decisions like that. The best chance of winning that cup was with him in the dugout and they should’ve kept him for that reason. It’s history now though, and we’re in a good place at last.

Yeah, he did the same at United.

Flew out the traps and scored goals, everyone is thinking "Jose's teams actually can be attack-minded".

Then he gets spooked, either cause they concede goals or go up against a very strong team so he needs to be ultra defensive again.

It just alters the mindset of players and they don't know if they can attack or sit without risk of being subbed.

 

[max cady]

It was inevitable that Mou would be sacked by Roma. He took them as far as he could and his over reaction to some decisions was just baffling. His transfer strategy was non-existent. In my opinion his aura disappeared in the last few months at Utd. We should never appointed him and that lays firmly with Levy. As many a poster has alluded to he should have gone after the Zagreb disaster, had he of gone then the cup final convo would have been irrelevant.

I can see him rocking up at the prem again possibly Newcastle which talking to my Newcastle friends would be disastrous for them. Other than that a short stint in Spain again or back home to Portugal is the only outcome for me. To be honest he looks like he has fallen out of love for football.

 

[Gingernut]

No chance, he lost the dressing room long before it. Couldn't beat Dinamo Zagreb with their coach literally in jail.

Ledley King (at an audience with Ledley King I saw) said that he hadn't lost the dressing room but the players relationship with his assistant was not good at all