Harry on Caulker

[JJetset]

Better footballer than Cahill!!

 

[gp13tot]

If you can score better than 1 in 2 at League level in this country then you are worth at least a look IMO. I'd happily have Rhodes as a project player/bench and cup games, hell with players like Pav he couldn't be much worse!

League 1 is fiercely competitive so it's not like he's banging em in against the Dog and Duck. Shouldn't cost a packet either. Not so sure about Hooper tbh. I liked the look of Baldock at MK dons, thought he'd be a great project player but spammers snapped him up

As for Caulker, haven't seen a load of him but the comments from the Jacks are certainly encouraging. With him, Kaboul's emergence, Dawson's return from the creek and more regularity from King this year i don't see where we'd fit Cahill anyway, spend elsewhere Harry!

 

[StartingPrice]

Really don't understand why we're even looking at Cahill with Dawson to come back soon and Caulker ready to come in next summer.

He was Yeovil's player of the season at 18 and by all accounts is doing brilliantly at Swansea (more than can be said about Cahill this season at Bolton):

http://forum.planetswans.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=113157

I kinda think the same...but, as a suggestion, if we take out Ledley and Gallas (both of which will happen sooner or later), that leaves us Kaboul, Dawson, Bassong and (hopefully) Caulker. Bassong is potentially off in Jan. I'm certainly not one of Dawson's biggest critics (belly begs to differ over festive season ), but I don't think he has it in him to be first choice in a CL side. Central defenders frequently come into their own in their late 20s and early thirties. Kaboul isn't there, and Caulker is a long way from there. Cahill is coming into that age range, now.
Maybe that is the thinking.

TBH, I agree with those who think he is slightly over-rated. But I'lll wait and see if we buy him, before bemoaning it (afterall, there were those on here who thought Parker was over-rated mg.

 

[gregga]

I kinda think the same...but, as a suggestion, if we take out Ledley and Gallas (both of which will happen sooner or later), that leaves us Kaboul, Dawson, Bassong and (hopefully) Caulker. Bassong is potentially off in Jan. I'm certainly not one of Dawson's biggest critics (belly begs to differ over festive season ), but I don't think he has it in him to be first choice in a CL side. Central defenders frequently come into their own in their late 20s and early thirties. Kaboul isn't there, and Caulker is a long way from there. Cahill is coming into that age range, now.
Maybe that is the thinking.

TBH, I agree with those who think he is slightly over-rated. But I'lll wait and see if we buy him, before bemoaning it (afterall, there were those on here who thought Parker was over-rated mg.

King has one more season in him I reckon. And TBH I don't think Cahill is the answer in terms of senior centreback. Hopefully by the time King retires Kaboul can take that mantle.

Plus we had a very good defensive record in 2009/2010 with Dawson and Bassong, proving he can play the senior centreback role. Just not with Kaboul, who also seems to much prefer being on the right side of the pair.

 

[StartingPrice]

King has one more season in him I reckon. And TBH I don't think Cahill is the answer in terms of senior centreback. Hopefully by the time King retires Kaboul can take that mantle.

Plus we had a very good defensive record in 2009/2010 with Dawson and Bassong, proving he can play the senior centreback role. Just not with Kaboul, who also seems to much prefer being on the right side of the pair.

As I said, take King/Gallas out of the equation, which will happen sooner or later, and that leaves Kaboul (not ready), Dawson (not 1st choice for top 4 team), Bassong (likely to be sold soon), and, potentially, Caulker (no where near ready, even if good enough).

I also said I don't really think Cahill is the answer - just a personal opinion, he seems to spend as much time un-impressing as he does impressing.

Just trying to offer some insight/suggested motivation into a possible move by the club to buy him.

 

[rabbikeane]

Another I'd like to see in the Prem is Gary Hooper, currently at Celtic - he just seems to keep scoring goals!

Spurs academy product, spent his time with us from the age of 7 to 14

 

[Kendall]

I've got big plans for this boy, he's going to warm our bench for us and given his size, that's a lot of bench to warm!

In all seriousness, he should definitely be back in the fold for next season.

 

[bubble07]

Maybe give him one more full season with Swansea on the condition he signs a long term deal in the summer. Think he will develop much more with another full season of regular football

Then he can partner Kaboul in 2 years with King still being available for a few games

 

[MrWoolley]

Always reassuring to know that Harry and co are seeing the potential which alot of us see when watching Caulker for Swansea. I'm looking forward to seeing him at the Lane next season.

 

[ChristianBaler]

Maybe give him one more full season with Swansea on the condition he signs a long term deal in the summer. Think he will develop much more with another full season of regular football

Then he can partner Kaboul in 2 years with King still being available for a few games

Well, he just signed an extension until 2014 in July so perhaps until 2016 this coming summer.

 

[Shanks]

The only reason he would leave Spurs is if he is pushed.

He won't go and will be happy to sign any deal to keep him at the club.

 

[gerishep]

The only reason he would leave Spurs is if he is pushed.

He won't go and will be happy to sign any deal to keep him at the club.

I like your optimism but I'm not so sure.

 

[kishman]

That's good to hear. I think all of us are excited about Caulker's future.

As for Harry. Hopefully he won't go. If he goes, regardless of whether we reach the CL or not, I'm afraid that some of our top players will follow.

 

[Shanks]

I like your optimism but I'm not so sure.

It's straight from the horses mouth fella.

It's not optimism, it's what he says.

 

[gregga]

As I said, take King/Gallas out of the equation, which will happen sooner or later, and that leaves Kaboul (not ready), Dawson (not 1st choice for top 4 team), Bassong (likely to be sold soon), and, potentially, Caulker (no where near ready, even if good enough).

I also said I don't really think Cahill is the answer - just a personal opinion, he seems to spend as much time un-impressing as he does impressing.

Just trying to offer some insight/suggested motivation into a possible move by the club to buy him.

Fair enough, but personally I don't buy this whole 'Dawson isn't good enough for a top 4 team' thing.

Is he really worse than Lescott? Or Koscielny? Or Luiz?

With the right CB partner I think he is good enough.

 

[StartingPrice]

Fair enough, but personally I don't buy this whole 'Dawson isn't good enough for a top 4 team' thing.

Is he really worse than Lescott? Or Koscielny? Or Luiz?

With the right CB partner I think he is good enough.

I didn't say he wasn't good enough for a top 4 team, just that within a top 4 team he should be the back-up.

Lescott is at a top 4 team because Citeh needed to flex their muscle fast, but couldn't do it against real big hitters, just those slightly outside (you'll notice that in those early days, even though it was apparent that we had some of the best players in the league, they never pursued any of our players) - and then only because he scored quite a few goals and caught the eye. Not saying he's a bad player, though.
Whinger's record with selecting quality centre-halfs from the continent who can integrate into the EPL is laughable (no, :rofl:, really it is).
Luiz...meh.

But, like I said, I, personally would have no qualms about having him as part of our squad - just wold prefer to have him as back-up.

 

[jushin3]

I am thinking Redknapp blatantly tapped up Jordan Rhodes with this one.

 

[opensaysme]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7400045/Caulker-picks-Swans-over-Spurs

 

[StartingPrice]

They always do.
Didn't see the issue with O'Hara.
Don't see the issue with Caulker.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

It would be unprofessional for him to do otherwise. Swansea are paying his wages. He's articulated his dilemma quite clearly as well.